Secretly Recorded - Pharma Officials Gravely Concerned About Covid-19 Vaccines LT Dangers.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Eh, it sounded like a defense. "Where you get that 99.9% do not agree"? That's what i would expect from someone who is saying that the 99.9% do agree.

Maybe I took it different than you intended. Anyway, the 99.9% figure is a lie, regardless of who said it, and science isn't a democracy anyway.

And I like you too. For someone in the UK, you're... not terrible.


TheRedneck

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Eh, it sounded like a defense. "Where you get that 99.9% do not agree"? That's what i would expect from someone who is saying that the 99.9% do agree.

Maybe I took it different than you intended. Anyway, the 99.9% figure is a lie, regardless of who said it, and science isn't a democracy anyway.

And I like you too. For someone in the UK, you're... not terrible.

TheRedneck

Fair enough. I will try harder in future.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2





TheRedneck

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Oh, I do get to brush it off, because this a small group of kooks saying things that are easy to debunk.

I'm curious how you expect to debunk something that hasn't happened yet.

The vaccine itself, in its entirety, spike protein, mRNA technology, inert ingredients, the whole thing, has existed for less than a year. That's a historical fact. One year ago, it was not possible to get the vaccine. So there is no way anyone can say with certainty that it is "safe" for time periods in excess of a year.

This.

I made this point earlier - it’s impossible to draw long term conclusion for a recent event. You can take a punt and make predictions and guesstimates, but his statements are definitive and absolute regarding long term safety of the vaccine.

As said perhaps too plainly in my previous, removed post... You have to wonder what motivates such relentlessly nonsensical reasoning; ignorance, delusions of grandeur, confirmation-bias derived from having been vaccinated and therefore needing to believe it’s 100% safe? Or an agenda?

a reply to: McGinty

The government seems to be pushing the agenda to get everyone vaccinated. Never has this happened in history before, they are saying that you will be ok if only you allow this into your body. The reality is that the narrative would have fallen apart sooner if the MSM had not been pushing it as well. But now we are seeing real-world data which is very disconcerting. Like this Toronto Doctor. Saying that the wards are full of vaccinated people.www.bitchute.com... Real data coming from Medicare in the US that's saying the warnings of Immune enhancement is real. Yet the Governments are still pushing the jab, we know birth rates are dropping, with the suspicion that the first and second-trimester pregnancies are having a problem with placenta rejection. I don't think this is a conspiracy anymore. It cant be if the Governments are still pushing the jab. Just what it is will no doubt unfold as the winter months get going.

October 5, 2021 UPDATE

Another installment of learning what INSIDERS really think, feel, and know.

Summary: Natural Antibodies from Covid-19 Recovery, are "stronger" and "longer lasting" than VACCINES.

Thread on this "STING" installment: www.abovetopsecret.com...

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originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: carewemust

So, a couple of big pharma guys are anti vaxxers, big deal. Some of them are flat earthers too, there are even some pedophiles in big pharma. They're not that hard to find.

It's like rocket scientists who believe in flying saucers, biologists who are also creationists, or computer programmers who think Alexa isn't spying on them. Smart people can be wrong some times.

In situations like this the majority is usually right. When 99.99 percent of scientists say the shot is safe then it probably is, and that 0.01 percent is just a lunatic fringe that goes squatching at the weekend

That's not necessarily true.

It's called the "bookie fallacy". Ask a bookie which team they think is going to win the next superbowl. They'll run the numbers and come up with a favorite.

Ask any other bookie, and most of them are using the same process, so they'll probably have the same favorite. You would likely find that out of 1000, or even 1,000,000 bookies, they end up all agreeing on that favorite.

Does it therefore follow that team will certainly win?

originally posted by: McGinty

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Oh, I do get to brush it off, because this a small group of kooks saying things that are easy to debunk.

I'm curious how you expect to debunk something that hasn't happened yet.

The vaccine itself, in its entirety, spike protein, mRNA technology, inert ingredients, the whole thing, has existed for less than a year. That's a historical fact. One year ago, it was not possible to get the vaccine. So there is no way anyone can say with certainty that it is "safe" for time periods in excess of a year.

This.

I made this point earlier - it’s impossible to draw long term conclusion for a recent event. You can take a punt and make predictions and guesstimates, but his statements are definitive and absolute regarding long term safety of the vaccine.

As said perhaps too plainly in my previous, removed post... You have to wonder what motivates such relentlessly nonsensical reasoning; ignorance, delusions of grandeur, confirmation-bias derived from having been vaccinated and therefore needing to believe it’s 100% safe? Or an agenda?

Indeed. This is a situation where the best that science can give us is bookie odds.

Best Advice and practice...

Ignore all the conflicting chatter.

Get vaxxed.

Pray You Catch covid19

Recover

Help Drive this pandemic into history books.

a reply to: carewemust


the COVID vaxxine may become the 21st Century, public distress agent... that Thalidomide became in the 1960s

it's not just about Eugenics, is it ?

Update 11.9.2021 - THEY DONT CARE!

Greedy, lawsuit magnet PFIZER, is asking the FDA to authorize Covid-19 BOOSTER shots for all adults, age 18 and over, this coming weekend.

Source: www.cnbc.com...

Once that occurs, the CDC (Walensky/Fauci) will roll out new guidelines for what constitutes "FULLY VACCINATED".

If you go past XX number of months since your vaccination, and no booster, you will be labeled as Non-Vaccinated by your employer, and subject to termination. The same will apply to any venues or activities where you must be fully-vaccinated to attend/participate.

Can you imagine the confusion and anger this will cause across America?!

originally posted by: carewemust
Tuesday, September 28, 2021

This explains why top government and non-government officials have received waivers from being injected with the Covid-19 vaccines.

Statements of major concerns, spoken by Johnson and Johnson officials, and secretly recorded by an insider whistle-blower, for Project Veritas.

Brandon Schadt, Johnson & Johnson Regional Business Lead: “It’s a kid, you just don’t do that, you know? Not something that’s so unknown in terms of repercussions down the road, you know?”

Schadt: "Kids shouldn't get a f*cking [COVID] vaccine."

Schadt: “It’s a kid, it’s a f*cking kid, you know? They shouldn’t have to get a f*cking [COVID] vaccine, you know?”

Schadt: “J&J is like stepping in the best smelling pile of sh*t you could step in.”

Justin Durrant, Johnson & Johnson Scientist: “Don’t get the Johnson & Johnson [COVID vaccine]. I didn’t tell you though.”

The actual video recording and links to more at: www.projectveritas.com...

--You've got CONGRESS exempting themselves and their staff from having to take the Covid-19 vaccine.

--You've got THE WHITE HOUSE exempting top staffers from having to take the Covid-19 vaccine. (This exemption is extraordinary, considering how close these employees are to President Biden and VP Harris on a daily basis!)

--You have actual practicing physicians (not "experts" on TV), describing patients suffering from a myriad number of Vaccine-caused medical problems.

--And now we have employees at ground-zero, right at the heart of a Covid-19 vaccine maker, describing how potentially dangerous their brand-new experimental Covid-19 vaccine product can be, over the long-term. And saying over and over, that Children Should NOT be injected with these drugs.

Studies are finding that Covid-19 vaccines' effectiveness starts to wear-off after just 90 days. But due to the vaccines newness (emergency-use approved only 10 months ago), any vaccine-induced LONG TERM health problems are a total unknown.

It's no wonder that people who understand this, are steering clear of the Covid-19 vaccines (if they can), unless they already have existing medical conditions that make them susceptible to becoming very sick, if they contract Covid-19.

-CareWeMust

originally posted by: looneylupinsrevenge
A REPLY TP: AaarghZombies

You do realize there have been times, even in recent history, where the majority were incorrect... right? Most notably, tobacco. For years "everyone" thought it was safe to consume.

Yeah, tobacco, and a whole lot of other things...

The criminal conspiracy that resulted in the lie that saturated fat causes heart disease encompasses so many different vectors and multiple dozens of foods and has caused so much pain, death and damage to the lives and health of countless billions of people that it well and truly boggles the mind.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

So, a couple of big pharma guys are anti vaxxers, big deal. Some of them are flat earthers too, there are even some pedophiles in big pharma. They're not that hard to find.

It's like rocket scientists who believe in flying saucers, biologists who are also creationists, or computer programmers who think Alexa isn't spying on them. Smart people can be wrong some times.

In situations like this the majority is usually right. When 99.99 percent of scientists say the shot is safe then it probably is, and that 0.01 percent is just a lunatic fringe that goes squatching at the weekend

Though we agree most of the time I do think it is all risk vs reward and healthy people under 40 really are not getting a reward from risk no matter how little the risk might be. I feel even stronger with people under the age of 20. Add on top we are into Omicron and the virus risk to those under 40 is even less of a already extremely low risk factor.

To me it seems we have moved away from risk mitigation to some level of totalitarianism that has nothing to do with science or risk... My sons in collage were forced to get vaccinated to go back even though they and 10,000 of other students all caught Delta with no issues... That does not make sense as we also know the #1 transmission area is the home, not schools, not airplanes, not the beach etc etc.

I'm 61 and vaccinated with a recent booster due to an up coming vacation in Spain, so I really have no issues with it, but I don't think it is needed for everyone.

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Perhaps if 99.99% of scientists actually thought that way your input would be truthful…
In other words what you said is 100% bull…

About 98%+ of doctors in the US are now vaccinated, I guess they have a death wish...

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
I'm getting locked down because the unvaxxed are getting sick,

You're getting locked down because your local/State government actors are engaging in unlawful unConstitutional acts to lock you down.

I choose to be responsible and yet I still get treated the same as an anti vaxxer. Please tell me how this is OK?

First you'd have to reword that spaghetti into a coherent logical sentence.

Responsible - in what way? In whose opinion?

Define 'anti-vaxxer', and what constitutes 'being treated like one'.

originally posted by: Chalcedony

Ah yes. Like this crazy anti-vaxxer from Astra Zeneca who thinks there will possibly be effects years down the road. I mean, Fauci said it only lasts 15 minutes so he must be right. How would the actual manufacturer of the pharmaceutical know how it works? Wow. The gall of this guy.

The problem is the whole nasty effects years later is basically doom porn. What effects are people suggesting? There isn't anything specific and people just say effects...

mRNA has a half life of 8 hours, so it lasts about a day. The protein is inert by design and last 3 weeks without the body actively trying to get rid of it, so most likely about 2 weeks at best, so what are people suggesting is happening years later?

originally posted by: carewemust

Justin Durrant, Johnson & Johnson Scientist: “Don’t get the Johnson & Johnson [COVID vaccine]

What is interesting about the J&J vaccine is it is not based on mRNA, but viral vectors which is more like the older method of making vaccines. I do agree with the do not get it statement as the vast majority of the medical issues like blood clots are coming out from the J&J shot.

originally posted by: St Udio

it's not just about Eugenics, is it ?

Well then it would be reverse eugenics since the vast majority of those unvacced are minorities. We would also loose a lot of doctors as they are vacced in the high 90% area...

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Eh, it sounded like a defense. "Where you get that 99.9% do not agree"? That's what i would expect from someone who is saying that the 99.9% do agree.

Maybe I took it different than you intended. Anyway, the 99.9% figure is a lie, regardless of who said it, and science isn't a democracy anyway.

And I like you too. For someone in the UK, you're... not terrible.

TheRedneck

The problem with any percentages is you can not spread the same percentages across the whole population. If you are healthy and lets say 18 then I would agree you have about a 99.9% chance to not get much of anything from COVID while getting better antibodies. If you are 65 and fat then that 99.9% is a good deal lower...lol

The big problem is that people do not want to look at what happens if the virus lasts longer than a few days like most cases of younger healthy people where there really isn't anything to it and no real long term issues, but if the virus drags on then you have higher and higher risks of long term issues.

The virus is ripping people's cells apart in its reproduction process. This is why if a person goes too long with the virus they find themselves in the situation where they do not have enough air sac cells to pass O2 on into the blood and they die.

If people want to think that the inert protein from mRNA that is producing that protein for about a day is bad then maybe they should think about what the virus does on a production scale that is massive to anything mRNA would do, but with protein that is NOT inert...lol

Down play a virus that is like 100 mRNA shots over a period of weeks and not one day, but then say the vaccine will kill ya... geez...

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: carewemust

So, a couple of big pharma guys are anti vaxxers, big deal. Some of them are flat earthers too, there are even some pedophiles in big pharma. They're not that hard to find.

It's like rocket scientists who believe in flying saucers, biologists who are also creationists, or computer programmers who think Alexa isn't spying on them. Smart people can be wrong some times.

In situations like this the majority is usually right. When 99.99 percent of scientists say the shot is safe then it probably is, and that 0.01 percent is just a lunatic fringe that goes squatching at the weekend

Going the probability route doesn't negate that the guy is giving a warning based on what he sees as an insider.

Should we wait til enough secret interviews of vaccine scientists reveal the same warning about children or should we start looking into it now?