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False positive tests seem to be a problem

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posted on Sep, 27 2021 @ 02:15 PM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Edumakated
a reply to: network dude

Fauci is at forefront because it is his sh!tshow.

The Chinese screwed up as we all know their QC skills are crap. The issue is that US was probably directly or indirectly supporting this work as well.


that's just it though, our tax dollars funded Fauci's NIH which through an intermediary, funded the GOF research that was taking place in Wuhan. At this point, the only real question left unanswered is was it intentionally released, or was it accidental. It's been almost 2 years, if you watched the Ausi exposé "what happened in Wuhan", they may have even answered that part. And the answer isn't a good one.


Correct. I hate to think the Chinese are so callous but who knows. I suspect the US doesn't want to acknowledge it because of the political fallout both economically and potentially militarily.

How do you think the world would react if it was discovered and acknowledged that c19 was released on purpose?



posted on Sep, 27 2021 @ 02:43 PM
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False positives on the pcr test is not good, people will mistakenly believe they have natural immunity and when they had the repetitions cranked way up to make it look like a more impressive pandemic, they gave people false positives and lots of these people refused the vaccine thinking they had covid. A false positive from the antibody test is rare, but they can occur on occasion.

If they got a false positive on the pcr test, it could mean they had viral particles in their nose and if the antibody test showed immunity, that could mean they had protection which meant there was no threat from the false positive PCR test too. I doubt if the antibody test was a false positive myself. I think the false positives in the PCR tests were over twenty five percent but the false positives from natural immunity in the antibody test only had less than a couple percent of being a false positive. Doing this from memory and making sure I do not exagerate the info, I actually think it was about thirty three percent false positive in the PCR test under the higher Repetitions, but am lazy and am not going to look it up at this time.



posted on Sep, 27 2021 @ 03:34 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Edumakated
a reply to: network dude

Fauci is at forefront because it is his sh!tshow.

The Chinese screwed up as we all know their QC skills are crap. The issue is that US was probably directly or indirectly supporting this work as well.


that's just it though, our tax dollars funded Fauci's NIH which through an intermediary, funded the GOF research that was taking place in Wuhan. At this point, the only real question left unanswered is was it intentionally released, or was it accidental. It's been almost 2 years, if you watched the Ausi exposé "what happened in Wuhan", they may have even answered that part. And the answer isn't a good one.


Correct. I hate to think the Chinese are so callous but who knows. I suspect the US doesn't want to acknowledge it because of the political fallout both economically and potentially militarily.

How do you think the world would react if it was discovered and acknowledged that c19 was released on purpose?


how could it be anything other than war on China with every other nation against them. This would ruin China, but they aren't stupid, and already know this. They knew this before it got out. This is bigger than just China, and I'm about to sound like a conspiracy nutter, but it's a global initiative with the true powers that be, orchestrating all this. Mandates in otherwise free countries? A psyop so vast and aggressive that we have a chunk of Americans who are actually cheering on vaccine mandates. They are either sofaking stupid they believe the lies, or they have been brainwashed to only think things the machine on the wall tells them. It's a real thing, it's really screwed up, and the options to reverse any of this seem to all point to bad things happening.



posted on Sep, 29 2021 @ 09:16 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Hey man, it's great you picked up on this! Truly denying ignorance. PLease could you explain to us, in terms suitable for a layman, what flase positive/negative or sensitivity/specifity means? I'm stuck, trying to get the science (as I am sure we all are) and these conversations are just going 'whoosh' over many of our heads. Thanks man.


From the ATS Community



posted on Sep, 29 2021 @ 10:42 AM
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originally posted by: MrNewWorldOrder
a reply to: network dude

Hey man, it's great you picked up on this! Truly denying ignorance. PLease could you explain to us, in terms suitable for a layman, what flase positive/negative or sensitivity/specifity means? I'm stuck, trying to get the science (as I am sure we all are) and these conversations are just going 'whoosh' over many of our heads. Thanks man.


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medical.mit.edu...

The PCR test analyzes samples by amplifying viral RNA in cycles. Most tests, like the Broad Institute test used by MIT, use a 40-cycle protocol. If the virus isn’t detected within 40 amplification cycles, the test result is negative. If viral RNA is detected in 40 cycles or less, the PCR machine stops running, and the test is positive. Because you received a positive result, we know that the test detected the virus in your sample by the time it reached its 40-cycle limit.

But as we learn more, this binary way of viewing test results — positive/negative, infected/not infected — may change. After all, the amount of virus in a sample is directly correlated with the number of amplification cycles needed to detect it, a number known as its cycle threshold (Ct). A positive test that comes back positive in 20 cycles contains a greater amount of virus than one requiring 40 cycles. Right now, we just call both results “positive.” But it’s obvious that the first sample came from an individual with a higher viral load. And the greater the viral load, the more contagious the patient is likely to be.


I hope this helps. I can offer my opinion, but it's always better in my view to bring the science if it's available.



posted on Sep, 29 2021 @ 11:39 AM
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Why are any of you still trying to rationalize any of this. It is a complete scam, the entire thing...go look at all the flu cases in 2020...or lack there of I should say. It tells the entire story right there. Couple that with a test that is being used incorrectly, add some fear porn and boom. "Pandemic"

The fact that some people are still trying to rationalize this is beyond me, open your eyes and turn off your TV.



posted on Sep, 29 2021 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: Habs2133

I closed my eyes really tight, and even stuck my fingers in my ears, but none of that made the rules or the rule makers go away. Am I doing it wrong?



posted on Sep, 29 2021 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Habs2133

I closed my eyes really tight, and even stuck my fingers in my ears, but none of that made the rules or the rule makers go away. Am I doing it wrong?


You should give them the "Bird" with your left hand, and in your right hold your "Winchester", makes 'em back off a bit.


edit on 29-9-2021 by Jimy718 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 30 2021 @ 12:27 PM
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a reply to: CupcakeKarma



Covid 19 and the fraudulent tests have been a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY and justice WILL prevail.


Have you ever thought that karmically speaking, this may _BE_ justice? Most people are evil, hostile, selfish, toxic, stupid, dumb and hateful. They pretend to be something else by adopting behavioural lying called 'politeness', that acts as a shield and cover for what they really are.

People have been doing evil and bad things for selfish reasons for millennia. Maybe it's payment time..



posted on Sep, 30 2021 @ 12:36 PM
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a reply to: Habs2133



The fact that some people are still trying to rationalize this is beyond me


So you are saying that 'the fact is beyond you'?

Are you sure this is what you meant to say?

Also, are you sure you know what 'rationalization' means? It seems like what you are saying is not in perfect synchronization with what 'rationalization' means.

"a. To attempt to justify (one's behavior) by providing reasons that obscure one's actual motives: rationalized cheating on his taxes as being a form of political protest.

b. To dismiss or minimize the significance of (something) by means of an explanation or excuse: "He could not rationalize the loss of some thirty thousand American lives in an unsuccessful war" (Robert Dallek). "

Most people don't even feel the need to rationalize anything, they simply trust blindly. They just spout the clichés, like 'trust the science!' and that eliminates any need to rationalize. They don't even want to be rational, they just want to trust.

Usually people make a choice, then try to make sense out of it afterwards, and if they have to try to explain their choice, that then turns to be a bad one, that is when rationalization takes place. It's not the go-to thing they do.

There's a lack of information that causes people to just go with the flow, so they are not always in the position to rationalize this kind of decision.

People usually need to have eyes open to watch TV - otherwise, they could just listen to radio or something. So telling people to open eyes, while implying they're ALSO watching TV makes no sense. I wonder if you can rationalize that..

What would turning off TV do anyway? I use my televisions purely for computers and consoles, they're not connected to any kind of network in any way, they can't be used to 'program' me. Of course I turn them off when I am not using them, but other than that, would there be a point to turn off my TV while I am playing F-Zero, for example?

I haven't watched 'TV programming' for decades - I have watched 'TV Shows' (a different thing, you can collect those on DVDs and such), and I have used 'Television Sets' for computer and console purposes, but I haven't 'received TV programming'.

There's no point in blaming anything on the TV - it's an innocent device. It's the "programming" that people should shut off instead.

Just to clarify; I don't really consider the modern plasma, LCD or TFT 'televisions' TVs, as they're so close to computer monitors they might as well be.



posted on Oct, 9 2021 @ 08:14 PM
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MY quote from earlier:


Covid 19 and the fraudulent tests have been a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY and justice WILL prevail.


a reply to: chris_stibrany


When? How ?


chris_stibrany,

WHEN? For the past two years.

HOW? fraudulent fauci has been LYING to humanity regarding the severity of the covid 19 AND the applicable treatments... ie... HCQ and ivermectin, which successfully treat the vid without causing horrendous side affects or death, as the covid 19 vaccine DOES cause.

THUS, the CRIME Against Humanity. HOW MANY have suffered and died because of his fraudulent behavior ?

He and his ilk CREATED the covid 19 in the labs of wuhan, USING American taxes... and the ILLEGAL-IN-AMERICA, "gain of function research"....

He and his ilk deliberately created a flu variant, using aborted human baby parts. They KNOWINGLY created a ruse upon humanity, by delivering a violent bio virus and THEN, to add insult to this injury, he deliberately denied ANY treatment for the virus other than MORE toxic pus... ie, the covid vaccine.

Similar to that bag of fermented oatmeal biden [borrowed quote] ... neither will be able to walk the streets without hearing BOOOOOOO. The majority of the public HATE them both.

And I believe that it won't be much longer before we find those mutants in Military Tribunals for the world to watch their crimes....



posted on Oct, 9 2021 @ 08:36 PM
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MY post from earlier:


Covid 19 and the fraudulent tests have been a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY and justice WILL prevail.


a reply to: Shoujikina


Have you ever thought that karmically speaking, this may _BE_ justice? Most people are evil, hostile, selfish, toxic, stupid, dumb and hateful. They pretend to be something else by adopting behavioural lying called 'politeness', that acts as a shield and cover for what they really are.

People have been doing evil and bad things for selfish reasons for millennia. Maybe it's payment time..


Shoujikina,

I totally DISagree. I do not find nor believe that MOST people are evil, et al.

I do understand that there is a strain of genetic-lineage humans that ARE the adjectives you posted... they are selfish ghouls who feast upon the blood of children and have for thousands of years.... sacrificing babies, there is history there.

They dress and (in the public eye), speak and behave as if they are normal, perhaps even pretending to be caring...

HOWEVER, their time of reigning upon the "herd" as they call us, is OVER. Their deeds have become known, and soon, the public will learn of their agenda.

But the public is not evil. Most people, the majority of humans are caring, loving, helpful... We have children and this teaches us to be less selfish. We LEARN to love... even though some have learned other horrors from their sad family.

And though we are ALL subject to moments of selfishness, hateful comments and making stupid mistakes... we learn and we grow, evolve and become BETTER... MOST of us, that is.

Notice the elderly.... very few are screaming memes ... they have learned what only time and experience can teach... and that is... we are all so similar. We crave interaction. We seek love and a connection to another. As babies, it's all self. But that changes.



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