Inside the Mind of Control Freaks

We're paying for the vaccine passports to make sure that when someone comes into a restaurant they'll know they wont be sitting besides a table of people that are unvaccinated. When you go into a gym, when you go to a movie theater, you need to know that if you've done the right things you get to be safe. You get to be rewarded for having done the right things, that's what it's all about. And those people who still hesitate, who still resist, well they wont get to enjoy the same things as those who've done their part for others. It seems like a very logical thing. It seems like a very obvious thing.

~ Justin Trudeau. Prime Minister of Canada

So called "modern society" has now reached a point where this type of economic segregation is being tauted by some of the most powerful people in the world. Many world leaders and "intellectuals" such as Bill Gates are calling for a "vaccine registry" and "vaccine passports" as the only way for getting things back to normal. Those who refuse vaccinations will simply become outcasts of society, and those who "do the right thing" get rewarded by the ever merciful nanny state.

Like all socialist fascists before them, they espouse rhetoric which is designed to appeal to the "common good". This makes it very easy to slander their opponents as "heartless" and "uncaring", thus giving them the ability to enforce absurdly authoritarian laws while convincing the masses it's in their best interest. The concept of liberty means nothing to these dictators. Make no mistake, those fighting to preserve freedom are on the right side of history.

We're going to move to a situation where to protect the health system, we're going to lock out people who are not vaccinated and can be. If you're making the choice not to get vaccinated then you're making the wrong choice, you're making the wrong choice. As this becomes absolutely a pandemic of the unvaccinated and we open everything up, it's not going to be safe for people who are not vaccinated to be roaming around the place spreading the virus. That's what they'll be doing. So there's every reason, every reason to get vaccinated ... but yes there's going to be a vaccinated economy and you get to participate in that if you are vaccinated.

~ Daniel Andrews. Premier of Victoria, Australia

Maybe I am making the wrong choice to not get vaccinated, but it should still be my choice. There are plenty of things I could do to live a healthier life, that doesn't mean I should be forced to do them. I also fail to grasp exactly why the unvaccinated pose such a threat if the vaccine is supposed to work. You guys keep saying we need herd immunity, but if the vaccine actually works then it should create herd immunity with much less than a 100% vaccination rate.

The vaccinated will also be roaming around spreading the virus according to every bit of data we have. New strains such as Delta have clearly evolved some resistance to the vaccines which were designed to combat the original variants of SARS-CoV-2. I also fail to see any pandemic, it has clearly become endemic. Death numbers around the world are low despite high case numbers in many nations, meaning the virus has also evolved to be less deadly but more contagious.

The first thing about protesters is, this is not just about being anti-mandated vaccination. They are anti-everything, they are anti-lockdown, they are anti-shutdown on international travel, they are anti-mask, they are anti-social-distancing. They think that everything will be solved by taking a horse de-worming tablet Ivermectin, that gives you the runs, and that put some people in hospital. They are literally in a fantasy world. Let's not pretend that these are otherwise rational individuals, they are absolutely whacky.

~ Brett Sutton. Chief Health Officer of Victoria, Australia

What's whacky is shutting down everything to stop the spread of a virus which kills less people than car crashes in Australia. I can absolutely assure you the economic damage and mental health damage is an order of magnitude larger than any damage prevented by the lockdowns. These people can't even begin to comprehend the amount of pain and suffering they have caused, they sit up in their ivory towers laying down edicts and living by a different set of rules.

Just why on Earth would anyone care about free travel, or basic human contact, yeah those people must be totally whacky right? What's whacky is forcing people to self-isolate for months on end and not expect people to eventually explode. What's whacky is continuing to roll out vaccines which have more reported adverse events than all other vaccines combined. What's evil is ignoring those adverse events because you think it will create "hesitancy".

My message to unvaccinated Americans is this. What more is there to wait for? What more do you need to see? We've made vaccinations free, safe, and convenient. The vaccine has FDA approval. Over 200 million Americans have gotten at least one shot. We've been patient, but our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us. So please do the right thing, but just don't take it from me, listen to the voices of unvaccinated Americans who are lying in hospital beds taking their final breath saying "if only I'd gotten vaccinated, if only".

~ Joe Biden. President of the United States of America

I think the vaccine may actually help reduce the symptoms of Covid-19 to some extent, but it's highly dependent on the particular strain and individual. I do think there is a very small amount of risk involved, but even if I believed the vaccines were 100% safe, I wouldn't get a vaccine for a virus which poses an extremely low risk to a person my age. And the more coerced I feel, the more I feel like there's ulterior motives, making me feel more and more uncomfortable.

I deeply oppose the idea of making a vaccine mandatory unless we were dealing with a real super virus causing people to drop dead all over the place. If Covid-19 was really causing so many deaths that our health systems can't handle it, wouldn't it be obvious? So why don't I know anyone who suffered severely from Covid-19 but I know several people who suffered quite severely from the vaccine? And why are countless nurses saying there was never any pandemic?

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

You get to be rewarded for having done the right things, that's what it's all about

Pavlovian training / conditioning in a way.

I have nothing more to add, as your post stands excellent on it's own.

They are the ones who unleashed the virus onto the world. Unless they pay me 50,000 dollars as compensation for vaccine side effects, I will not take their stupid vaccine.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Best put together thread about the blatantly obvious I've seen yet.

Why are people so ignorant, blind, stupid and dismissive of the threat?

Well done indeed OP.

Sad though isn't it.

originally posted by: ihavethepower
They are the ones who unleashed the virus onto the world. Unless they pay me 50,000 dollars as compensation for vaccine side effects, I will not take their stupid vaccine.

What sort of stupid statement is that??????

So you still can be economically persuaded, your price is just higher??????

Its idiot statements like that which only pays homage to the current agenda.

Honestly..

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Shoot man if I had known that this chinaflu only caused between 1,300 and 1,100 deaths a year per 2018 fatal car crashes in Australia. Then I would maybe give credit to your OP.
But you kinda ruined that with blatantly false crap....
Fix the OP and I will look into this more. I just can't with that one claim man.

a reply to: Allaroundyou

Covid-19 deaths in Australia since the pandemic began (18 months): ~1.2K

Average car accident fatalities per year in Australia: ~1.2K

Sources:
www.worldometers.info...
www.bitre.gov.au...
www.budgetdirect.com.au...

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Yes if your only speaking of Australia.
Possible I misread your OP.
That's on me

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

And let’s not forget they died “with” covid and not necessarily “of” it.

I got vaccinated when it was still my choice. The less it becomes a choice, the more I wish I hadn't and the more resolved I am to have nothing more to do with it.

You can get me to choose to do something that I won't do if compelled. And I know I am not the only one.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

IF they're going to do this then maybe they should have an Unvaccinated Section, similar to the Smoking Sections of the olden days.

I don't plan to go to any restaurants any time soon, but maybe if I could know that I wouldn't be sitting next to a group of vaccinated people whom are possibly in the process of mutating a festering virus, then I might consider it.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

These people can't even begin to comprehend the amount of pain and suffering they have caused,

I wouldn’t be so sure about that on statement, and they aren’t done yet unless enough people say no more.

So can anyone explain to me why one should be concern with unvaxxed people near you if you are vaccinated? If you elect to be unvaxxed then that is a choice you make as you decided to roll the dice with the virus with no extra protection.

So lets take this to a scenario, You are sitting near me and I'm vaxxed, so why should I care if you are are or are not? I have the extra protection you don't...lol

originally posted by: ketsuko
I got vaccinated when it was still my choice. The less it becomes a choice, the more I wish I hadn't and the more resolved I am to have nothing more to do with it.

You can get me to choose to do something that I won't do if compelled. And I know I am not the only one.

I got vaxxed to just prime my immune system pump and nothing more. This is a new virus and I wanted to make it not new to my body that being new could be much more serious than being one my body has a signature for. That is it, done...

I don't get flu shots either because I'm not high risk other than being 61, but healthy as hell still.

a reply to: Xtrozero

So can anyone explain to me why one should be concern with unvaxxed people near you if you are vaccinated?

That should be the most popular/common question in everybody's minds nowadays.

The usual answer seems to be one of deflection.

a reply to: Allaroundyou

Lets also keep in mind that we know for a fact those Covid-19 death numbers are inflated because they count almost anyone who dies with Covid-19. Yes, it's probably true that the extreme lockdown measures enforced in Victoria and other parts of Australia probably prevented some Covid-19 deaths, but several nations are operating with very few restrictions and doing fine, yet some of the most vaccinated nations such as Israel have high death rates.

The way they mock drugs like Ivermectin and constantly call it a "horse de-wormer" is so juvenile and asinine. They are real treatments which multiple doctors have used to dramatically lower the fatality rate of Covid-19. You can't look at their patient records and claim their treatments aren't working. At the very least they are equally effective at preventing hospitalization and death compared to the vaccines.

When these people speak they sound to me more like corporate spokesman for big pharma rather than people who care about the health of humanity. Those ones who do truly care about people and think that fascism is the solution are even more dangerous because there isn't much they wont do in the name of the greater good. Their obsession with safety and health will pave a path straight to hell.

originally posted by: ihavethepower
They are the ones who unleashed the virus onto the world. Unless they pay me 50,000 dollars as compensation for vaccine side effects, I will not take their stupid vaccine.

You undervalue your health terribly my friend.
No amount of money can compensate for debilitation of that I can personally attest.

originally posted by: BrokenCircles

The usual answer seems to be one of deflection.

I haven't even seen a bad answer, so what all this means is its a form of punishment to not follow the orders of the Goverment. I remember Obama suggesting he would love to make gas 9 or 10 dollars a gallon to force people to not drive as much, the liberals also wanted to tax the crap out of any food they deemed as bad.

Kind of strange that everything they would like to do affects the poor and minorities more than anyone else.

$50k ?

To them you’re a cheap date.

Just sayin......



reply to: ihavethepower

originally posted by: BrokenCircles
a reply to: ChaoticOrder

IF they're going to do this then maybe they should have an Unvaccinated Section, similar to the Smoking Sections of the olden days.

I don't plan to go to any restaurants any time soon, but maybe if I could know that I wouldn't be sitting next to a group of vaccinated people whom are possibly in the process of mutating a festering virus, then I might consider it.

They could set up a system, like on the old Get Smart TV show. Instead of a "Dome of Silence" dropping down from the ceiling, it could be a "Dome of Unvaxxed" or some such thing (think up a clever name lol). There was actually a "spy theme'd" bar in Milwaukee in the 70's called "International Exports" that took a lot of the Get Smart type props and used them. After we had dinner and drinks there, I stepped into the phone booth with my wife, closed the door and dialed "99" on the phone and the floor moved downward like an elevator and deposited us onto a back alley street. Really cool place!

Cheers - Dave