Question for those who are willing to ponder the possibility that we and the universe were created

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: Kreeate

Science is actively trying to solve that conundrum. What I highly doubt is that the biblical god did it. No evidence for it, so that theory carries as much value as the Harry Potter stories.

And I couldn't care less about the education that filled your head with lies
and fake history and grammar. lol

I don't give a crap what you doubt either in any way.

In fact I've already said I don't care what you do or how you do it?
Doubt and spout right out that pie hole all you want amigo. You won't hear
one more peep out of me. The thoughts of a coward are never interesting.
I also know you're last word freak so have at it.

And I couldn't care less about the education that filled your head with lies
and fake history and grammar. lol

Oh, you mean the educational system that has resulted in 100% of the modern aspects we are enjoying today?
That gibberish you are typing... who designed and manufactured the device you are doing it on? Was that fake as well?
As for grammar, calling it fake is the most pathetic thing I've read online in a very long time. Use a lexicon, thesaurus and a dictionary mate.

Rant over...

Oh no, please do tell how the bible transcends science and explains everything. Do tell how your religion scientifically explains our existence.

Feel free to use big words and lots of links and videos to creationist fundamentalist sites. In good form you need to create walls of text as well. My simple, cowardly mind can then google those in order to gain understanding.

I'm really interested in your "perspective", lol.

a reply to: 5StarOracle

Agreed good member but the love of money is the root of all evil.

In the most basic sense the Bible does explain science which is nothing more than the attempt to understand creation.
The Bible has no problem saying God created the Universe…
Therefore God not the Bible supersedes science which marvels at Gods handiwork while confused scientists attempt to disprove him… How foolish is that?

The first law of thermodynamics dynamics bows down to a supernatural creator…

To understand how you would have to understand how God describes himself in the Bible…
Exists outside of the confines and rules or laws of the Universe
Has no need to have been created thus is timeless or eternal
There’s more but those factors more than suffice…

Go ahead… look into that for yourself… Then tell me how that’s true…
Or make me laugh trying to show how it is not so…

The Bible has plenty of scientific facts one that I like is a reference to the singing stars constantly praising God…
Scientists liked to poke at that one for a very long time…
But guess what… Scientists know that stars sing now…
Our very own star Sol repeated a never ending mantra of ahum
Don’t quote me on it but I think it’s monks who find themselves doing the same thing…
I thought that was profound anyway…

a reply to: Kreeate

This should explain everything to a person of your stature.

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
In the most basic sense the Bible does explain science which is nothing more than the attempt to understand creation.
The Bible has no problem saying God created the Universe…
Therefore God not the Bible supersedes science which marvels at Gods handiwork while confused scientists attempt to disprove him… How foolish is that?

The first law of thermodynamics dynamics bows down to a supernatural creator…

To understand how you would have to understand how God describes himself in the Bible…
Exists outside of the confines and rules or laws of the Universe
Has no need to have been created thus is timeless or eternal
There’s more but those factors more than suffice…

Go ahead… look into that for yourself… Then tell me how that’s true…
Or make me laugh trying to show how it is not so…

Before anything you say can be considered, kindly provide proof or evidence of your "God".

Thanks.

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: Kreeate

This should explain everything to a person of your stature.

Yes, an accurate depiction of your viewpoint regarding the origin of the universe. Well put indeed.

a reply to: Kreeate

I already have…
It’s funny you don’t realize how and why I have…
Go look in the mirror and try to convince yourself you don’t exist…
lol

a reply to: 5StarOracle

The Bible has plenty of scientific facts one that I like is a reference to the singing stars constantly praising God…
Scientists liked to poke at that one for a very long time…
But guess what… Scientists know that stars sing now…
Our very own star Sol repeated a never ending mantra of ahum
Don’t quote me on it but I think it’s monks who find themselves doing the same thing…
I thought that was profound anyway…

I am impressed SStar. This is a new one for me and that's pretty rare.
How awesome is that? Time for prayer to celebrate. I never heard
of that one before. My day is full. Thank you.

a reply to: Randyvine2

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Kreeate

I already have…
It’s funny you don’t realize how and why I have…
Go look in the mirror and try to convince yourself you don’t exist…
lol

Adding my question here for clarity, since you opted not to actually quote my question...

Before anything you say can be considered, kindly provide proof or evidence of your "God".

If you have proof of God you will certainly be in line for a Nobel. At the very least. A universal accolade perhaps.

Please do re-post your claimed evidence so that I can submit it for review. Note that the bible and all other pseudo scientific gobbledygook nonsense will probably not sit right with sensible people.

a reply to: 5StarOracle
I've never seen the claim that the stars sing constantly praising God.

There is that one line where the morning stars sang during the creation but nothing that says they do so constantly, in Job, but there is also the line in Judges that says the stars fought against Sisera which might mean that when the bible says "stars" it isn't really talking about large flaming balls of gas.

That is why what you think is proof really isn't.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: 5StarOracle
I've never seen the claim that the stars sing constantly praising God.

There is that one line where the morning stars sang during the creation but nothing that says they do so constantly, in Job, but there is also the line in Judges that says the stars fought against Sisera which might mean that when the bible says "stars" it isn't really talking about large flaming balls of gas.

That is why what you think is proof really isn't.

The problem with biblidiots is that they will interpret their "holy" book as they see fit.
A-hole OT god: It were EVIL times me child
All da mirakles inbetween: God moves in mysterious ways me child... like jagger
Lovey dovey NT god: I luuvv you! kiss my butty and ye shall receive! ( whether you want it or not, you'll GET it )

a reply to: Kreeate

Is your real name Simon or Jack per chance?
Can you provide that scientific evidence showing how and why a supernatural kickstart is not needed for everything we know in existence?
God exists until you can do that…
Childish rants and insults don’t quite get it done…

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
Can you provide that scientific evidence showing how and why a supernatural kickstart is not needed for everything we know in existence?

Seems like you want to have your cake and eat it too:

To understand how you would have to understand how God describes himself in the Bible…
Exists outside of the confines and rules or laws of the Universe
Has no need to have been created thus is timeless or eternal

ETA: There is no proof god described himself. That was just some people saying he did.

God exists until you can do that…

Actually, it is the other way around.

Sure we can ponder the possibility but it is up to those making the claim to offer the proof. Honestly, most people don't really try to disprove the existence of god, they are just telling you why your proof isn't compelling.

a reply to: daskakik

I have many old bibles very old bibles very very old bibles…
I have plenty of new bibles…
Guess what almost all of them are worded unalike yet the translations the bottom line remains the same…
All of my older bibles have books which are no longer included…

The real relevance of what I said about those singing stars is that it was scientific evidence in the Bible that superseded scientific knowledge for thousands of years…

How scientists and atheists used this to mock the Bible and believers…
That is until science found out they do sing…
Do you understand now?

That’s why you believe what you said discounts what I said, yet in reality what I said remains true…

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Kreeate

Is your real name Simon or Jack per chance?
Can you provide that scientific evidence showing how and why a supernatural kickstart is not needed for everything we know in existence?
God exists until you can do that…
Childish rants and insults don’t quite get it done…

You, my friend, are making the claims. Onus is on you to provide proof.

My real name is Lucifer

So where is it? Where's your empirical evidence and proof?

Guess what…
if I’m having cake you better believe I’m eating it…
I don’t know and don’t want to know what you do with yours…

It really isn’t the opposite in the really real world with all its Scientific knowledge with many actual scientists trying their best to actually prove God does not has not and will never exist… Yet can not has not and will not prove he does not exist…

Yet Scientific laws elude to the fact that he does…
As does each and everything that exists…
That’s all that science can tell you…
That’s all that Science does tell you…
You’re just not smart enough to know that’s what you’re being told…

a reply to: Kreeate

Oh sorry…
I didn’t realize I was conversing with an individual who suffers from delusions of grandeur…

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
Guess what…
if I’m having cake you better believe I’m eating it…
I don’t know and don’t want to know what you do with yours…

It really isn’t the opposite in the really real world with all its Scientific knowledge with many actual scientists trying their best to actually prove God does not has not and will never exist… Yet can not has not and will not prove he does not exist…

Yet Scientific laws elude to the fact that he does…
As does each and everything that exists…
That’s all that science can tell you…
That’s all that Science does tell you…
You’re just not smart enough to know that’s what you’re being told…

lol, So no actual proof of your god. Time and time again, this nonsense is spewed.
Give some evidence of your sky fairy. I will then give complimentary evidence for unicorns and gnomes.