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Well this is getting too close to home I hope the best for everyone

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posted on Sep, 14 2021 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: themessengernevermatters

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: chr0naut

The death rate of Covid is insignificant compared to what has socially occurred your whole way of life is now in the toilet.


COVID-19 is 8th deadliest plague in terms of deaths it has caused, in all of human history. And we have only seen the first two years of it.

List of epidemics From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Our way of life has always been a struggle against disease. For the first time in human history, that struggle looks like it can be winnable in a far shorter term and with far easier and cheaper methods than ever before.


More deaths doesn't really mean anything, since there are far more people now. Covid is not more deadly than ealier pandemics and plagues; there were just less people. Though we have antibiotics now, if we had a black plague today with the population numbers of today, the death toll would be astronomical.


We do still have cases of plague (Yersina Pestis pathogen). In 2015, 16 people contracted bubonic plague in the Western United States. It survives there in wild animal populations and occasionally breaks out.



posted on Sep, 14 2021 @ 04:09 PM
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a reply to: BrujaRebooted

I don't believe most doctors are on a population-culling scam, but I think they believe without question what the scientists from the drug companies tell them. They don't have many other choices, at least untill the trial is over. Remember they prescripted all the pulled dangerous drugs until they were pulled.



posted on Sep, 14 2021 @ 04:15 PM
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originally posted by: chris_stibrany
a reply to: chr0naut

You mean the ones we never needed?

www.cnbc.com...

lol

You seem really scared to death. 'They' have done their job too well unfortunately.


No, I was talking about the Navy ships where there were deaths from COVID-19 among the crew. The ones who weren't aged and already sick.



posted on Sep, 14 2021 @ 04:38 PM
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originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: BrujaRebooted

I don't believe most doctors are on a population-culling scam, but I think they believe without question what the scientists from the drug companies tell them. They don't have many other choices, at least untill the trial is over. Remember they prescripted all the pulled dangerous drugs until they were pulled.



I dont believe they believe the drug companies either. Drs arent stupid people. They know about the prior failures, like darvon, phentermine and birth control sponges. They are supposed to read the literature, look at the studies and stay up on the science in their specialty. They certainly are better equipped than I to understand it and apply my limited knowelegenand NO experience.



posted on Sep, 14 2021 @ 05:27 PM
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a reply to: BrujaRebooted

Any doctor who speaks up is targeted, they don't have many options.



posted on Sep, 14 2021 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: BrujaRebooted

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: BrujaRebooted

Were you're GP and cardiologist aware of the side effects? i am stunned that this kind of advise that GP and cardiologists are pushing the vaxs now despite the risks/side effects.


"Tim Pool; Talk to your doctor"
"Doctor:Its safe just take the vax"


Maybe, have you considered..you are wrong.


Ive considered that I dont have the education nor background to be sure of my own opinion, so Ive decided to ask doctors that know me and my medical history and that have taken good care of me in the past, and that I trust. I dont think that approach is wrong. I dont think my cardiologist is lying to me about information he has first hand knowledge of. If I doubted his honesty, I would be just this minute looking for another dr.


For sure, best to have truly informed opinions, keeping in mind..not all doctors are created equal. If you have a good one, keep him/her.



posted on Sep, 14 2021 @ 05:44 PM
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originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: BrujaRebooted

Any doctor who speaks up is targeted, they don't have many options.



Targeted by whom?

Following protocols and practice standards is one thing, lying to patients when they dont have to is another. Im sorry you haven’t better experiences with drs. Im overall very grateful for mine. The few I didnt have confidence in I didnt see again. Nobody forces me to only see this one or that one. Ive NEVER joined an HMO for that very reason. Freedom of choice. Maybe thats why so many dont trust their personal physicians these days? Limits to their choices?



posted on Sep, 14 2021 @ 05:46 PM
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a reply to: BrujaRebooted

You have a point.



posted on Sep, 14 2021 @ 05:49 PM
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originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: BrujaRebooted

Any doctor who speaks up is targeted, they don't have many options.




Mine had to either retire early or violate both personal and professional ethics.

He now lives in a vegas condo and is trying to open a mobile clinic through a local charity.

For something to do with all his free time.



posted on Sep, 14 2021 @ 05:55 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
What would be the point of manufacturing statistics that are essential for allocating budget and resources? Do they want to fail?

Because they couldn't care less about you, or 'succeeding' or whatever you mean by 'fail'...

Their only goal is to keep everyone terrified of their own shadow so you'll accept whatever petty-tyrant-wanna-be dictates they decide to shove down your throat.



posted on Sep, 15 2021 @ 01:50 AM
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a reply to: SoundisVibration

Why Ibuprofen, I wonder? I remember their was anectdotal evidence that NSAIDS, and specifically Ibuprofen, might feed the virus.


[3/19/2020] FDA is aware of news reports stating the use of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), such as ibuprofen, could worsen coronavirus disease (COVID-19). These news reports followed a March 11, 2020 letter in The Lancet medical journalExternal Link Disclaimer, which hypothesized that an enzyme (a molecule that aids a biochemical reaction in the body) is increased by NSAIDs and could aggravate COVID-19 symptoms.


FDA advice on NSAIDS



posted on Sep, 15 2021 @ 07:36 AM
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a reply to: BlackmoonJester

Yeah, I heard that too. As I said, small town doctor probably trying to make money from covid deaths. They had actually suggested putting him on a ventilator when he went yesterday asking for treatment. This is Ludacris. It's sad that some crack pots on an internet forum know more about treatments than a doctor..



posted on Sep, 16 2021 @ 06:20 AM
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a reply to: SoundisVibration

About 2/3 of the people I've known have had covid. Im in the UK.

No one I know died though.



posted on Sep, 16 2021 @ 08:17 AM
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originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: chr0naut

The death rate of Covid is insignificant compared to what has socially occurred your whole way of life is now in the toilet.


1 in 500 dead US residents would disagree with you: coronavirus.jhu.edu... I'm glad that it is not anywhere significant that you post your musings and opinions. Thankfully, words are only usually powerful when spoken by those who are respected.



posted on Sep, 16 2021 @ 09:31 AM
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Latest CDC numbers have reduced the death rate by about 400%.

Instead of 1 in 100, it's now 1 in 500.

And that doesn't account for the estimated 50 million people who got covid and didn't report. Which would make it 1 in 1000.

www.breitbart.com... 500-americans-dead-from-coronavirus/

99.8% survival rate from reported cases.

99.9% survival rate in total estimated cases.

Doesn't sound like a pandemic to me.



posted on Sep, 16 2021 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: rounda

Thank god for Breibart News! Tell the CDC to fire their statisticians! Tell them, too, to change theor definition of pandemic. I suggest we conduct a Delphi exercise on ATS to do the work for them!

BTW, which ever way you present the data, it is still 1 in 500 US residents. The article seems a bit pointless.



posted on Sep, 16 2021 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: MrNewWorldOrder
a reply to: rounda

Thank god for Breibart News! Tell the CDC to fire their statisticians! Tell them, too, to change theor definition of pandemic. I suggest we conduct a Delphi exercise on ATS to do the work for them!

BTW, which ever way you present the data, it is still 1 in 500 US residents. The article seems a bit pointless.


It's 1 in 500 from REPORTED cases. Reported cases are ~50 million.

A few days ago, the CDC estimated ~50 million unreported

That means 1 in 1000.

.1%

99.9% survival rate, IF you don't consider the underlying health conditions of those that died and ONLY attribute their deaths to COVID-19.

Which seems highly unlikely, considering the report in the Atlantic, showing nearly half of all hospitalized COVID-19 cases were due to underlying issues, not COVID-19.

The definition of pandemic, post 2009, is just simply a new virus which affects alot of people.

By that definition, every single flu season where the flu virus has mutated can be considered a pandemic.

Prior to 2009, the definition of pandemic included high mortality rate.
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