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911:Nostradamus DID predict the whole era precisely

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posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 05:03 AM
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Nostradamus may have predicted 911 precisely in his Les Propheties.

Century X, LXXII
The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror,
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.

Nobody would argue if we denote Usama Bin Laden(UBL) as the King of Terror. 911 was indeed an attack from the sky. Therefore "From the sky will come a great King of Terror" can be regarded as the description of 911. I think most of people would agree with me.

The final sentence "Before and after Mars to reign by good luck" is also easy to understand. Before 911, the US had begun air strikes against al-Qaeda bases in countries such as Afghanistan and Sudan. After 911, the War on Terror defined an era of continous wars.

The first question, however, is that 911 happened in Sep. 2001, not Jul. 1999. The apparent difference hurts the credibility of his prophecy. But this is one of few quatrains he named a specific year. Why would he take this risk? As we know, some of his quatrains were about one incident, some were about an era. Maybe there were something in Jul. 1999 related to 911. According to "911 commission report", The original idea of using plane as a weapon to attack the US came from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed(KSM), the idea had not raised UBL's attention until the end of 1998. UBL then met with KSM in the spring of 1999 for several times to discuss the possibility and in the fall of 1999, four terrorists had begun their training for the mission. Therefore we can come to the conclusion that sometime in the summer of 1999, UBL made his important decision to attack the US using planes. Maybe Nostradamus tried to tell us that it was July 1999.

Still, why Nostradamus wrote down "To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols"? Does it have any relationship with 911? No, I don't think it has any direct relationship with 911, but it represents one of the most important characteristics of the era after 911 and we may say it is one of the major results of the War on Terror: the rise of China. From 2001, China has got an opportunity to gain support from the west by supporting the wars. By the time when Xi took the power in 2012, China has become the second largest economy in the World.

Yes, UBL made the critical decision in the summer of 1999
Yes, 911 did happened
Yes, China became another superpower
Yes, The war continued for decades.
Nostradamus DID predicted 911 and the aftermath.



posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 05:13 AM
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I thought that it referred to the solar eclipse of that year.



posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 05:24 AM
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originally posted by: Paperjacket
the rise of China. From 2001, China has got an opportunity to gain support from the west by supporting the wars. By the time when Xi took the power in 2012, China has become the second largest economy in the World.


Didn't China start somewhere in '82 with their economic reform?

I did find the whole "From the sky will come a great King of Terror" linked to 9/11 quite cool so I'll give you a flag and star for that one...

edit on 8-9-2021 by keukendeur because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 05:31 AM
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I don't think he would do such "small" predictions.

a reply to: In4ormant



posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 05:34 AM
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Yes China began to take off in the begining of 1980s, but before joining WTO in 2001, it's economy was still relatively small.

a reply to: keukendeur



posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 05:34 AM
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a reply to: Paperjacket

Hey come on...he did the Great Fire of London thingy...

The blood of the just will commit a fault at London,

Burnt through lightning of twenty threes the six:

The ancient lady will fall from her high place,

Several of the same sect will be killed.'


Why not two skyscrapers in NY?



posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 05:42 AM
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a reply to: Paperjacket

In context and perspective I don't think it would have been small to him.



posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 06:02 AM
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a reply to: Paperjacket

"To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols"? Does it have any relationship with 911? No, I don't think it has any direct relationship with 911, but it represents one of the most important characteristics of the era after 911 and we may say it is one of the major results of the War on Terror: the rise of China.“

Interesting thread. And I’m ALWAYS a fan of Nostradamus, though I’m not convinced he was as accurate as some folks believe. As for China fitting into this quatrain…If I remember my history correctly, the Mongols and China were two entirely different kingdoms. The Chinese built the Great Wall to keep the Mongols OUT. But the wall was ultimately unsuccessful.

The closest approach to ‘shoehorning’ the Mongols into an Arabian setting (UBL was a Saudi citizen of Yemeni descent) is when the Mongols sacked Baghdad in 1258. But even then, Mesopotamia—as Iraq was known then—was NOT considered Arabia. Surely, Nostradamus would’ve said ‘Arabian’ if that’s what he meant.



posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 06:24 AM
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Well in this particular case, the king of terror is much more important sign I believe.


originally posted by: keukendeur
a reply to: Paperjacket

Hey come on...he did the Great Fire of London thingy...

The blood of the just will commit a fault at London,

Burnt through lightning of twenty threes the six:

The ancient lady will fall from her high place,

Several of the same sect will be killed.'


Why not two skyscrapers in NY?



posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 06:32 AM
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Yeh before 1999, some authors wrote books about the alignment of planets that year and suggested that Nostradamus implied possible disasters. But nothing happened and the alignment itself didn't fit the quatrain.


originally posted by: In4ormant
a reply to: Paperjacket

In context and perspective I don't think it would have been small to him.




posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 06:36 AM
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Yes he would have used Arabian or Arab b/c he had used these words so many times. I think he intended to refer an eastern power and that would be China if it's the case.


originally posted by: Thoughtcrime
a reply to: Paperjacket

"To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols"? Does it have any relationship with 911? No, I don't think it has any direct relationship with 911, but it represents one of the most important characteristics of the era after 911 and we may say it is one of the major results of the War on Terror: the rise of China.“

Interesting thread. And I’m ALWAYS a fan of Nostradamus, though I’m not convinced he was as accurate as some folks believe. As for China fitting into this quatrain…If I remember my history correctly, the Mongols and China were two entirely different kingdoms. The Chinese built the Great Wall to keep the Mongols OUT. But the wall was ultimately unsuccessful.

The closest approach to ‘shoehorning’ the Mongols into an Arabian setting (UBL was a Saudi citizen of Yemeni descent) is when the Mongols sacked Baghdad in 1258. But even then, Mesopotamia—as Iraq was known then—was NOT considered Arabia. Surely, Nostradamus would’ve said ‘Arabian’ if that’s what he meant.




posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 06:57 AM
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a reply to: Paperjacket
Did he get a single thing right, without his words being twisted beyond meaning? I remember old nostradamus was all over the history channel pre 2012. Then when he got that one wrong they kinda chucked him in the bin for other mystics.
Like other people who get featured on the Discovery/History channel conglomerate, hes not to be believed.



posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 08:03 AM
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a reply to: Paperjacket

Everything I've ever read about Nostradamus tells me he was just writing horoscopes with vague wording.
All to make money.

Con man.



posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 08:56 AM
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Not all of his quatrains are vague, some on the other hand are quite specific and thus are quite easy for testing.


originally posted by: SwampFox999
a reply to: Paperjacket
Did he get a single thing right, without his words being twisted beyond meaning? I remember old nostradamus was all over the history channel pre 2012. Then when he got that one wrong they kinda chucked him in the bin for other mystics.
Like other people who get featured on the Discovery/History channel conglomerate, hes not to be believed.




posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 08:57 AM
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Not exactly, some are quite specific though.


originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Paperjacket

Everything I've ever read about Nostradamus tells me he was just writing horoscopes with vague wording.
All to make money.

Con man.



posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 10:05 AM
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originally posted by: Paperjacket
Not exactly, some are quite specific though.


originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Paperjacket

Everything I've ever read about Nostradamus tells me he was just writing horoscopes with vague wording.
All to make money.

Con man.


Taking an event and then going through chapters of vague ramblings to make something line up is not a prediction.



posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 02:02 PM
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It was a business. He didn't predict anything. It is suspected he had faster access to info from incoming travelers by boat and land but it was a business because his brother took over the "predictions" after he died. Same with the story of Merlin. Nobody is sure he really existed but there is truth to servants and others ease dropping through the castle walls and floors and either selling or using the information to their own advantage.

Same thing is going on today with the NSA, CIA, FBI and other global ease droppers. They have actually perfected it to the point they can steal elections and fool entire countries into believing nonsense to take advantage of their belief systems.


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posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 09:04 PM
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However some were not "vague rambling" such as those with clear year and clear descriptions, I am not sure if you have read his book. If those are proven TRUE, we have to take his predictions seriously.


originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: Paperjacket
Not exactly, some are quite specific though.


originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Paperjacket

Everything I've ever read about Nostradamus tells me he was just writing horoscopes with vague wording.
All to make money.

Con man.


Taking an event and then going through chapters of vague ramblings to make something line up is not a prediction.




posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 09:12 PM
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Yes he developed a business, but we just can't say he was not predicting anything b/c it was a business. Once we can find the real world events perfectly match his predictions, it's rather hard to say he was not predicting. And we just can't compare his work with WORK of three-letter agencies, can we?


originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
It was a business. He didn't predict anything. It is suspected he had faster access to info from incoming travelers by boat and land but it was a business because his brother took over the "predictions" after he died. Same with the story of Merlin. Nobody is sure he really existed but there is truth to servants and others ease dropping through the castle walls and floors and either selling or using the information to their own advantage.

Same thing is going on today with the NSA, CIA, FBI and other global ease droppers. They have actually perfected it to the point they can steal elections and fool entire countries into believing nonsense to take advantage of their belief systems.




posted on Sep, 20 2021 @ 10:48 PM
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originally posted by: Paperjacket
Nostradamus may have predicted 911 precisely in his Les Propheties.

Century X, LXXII
The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror,
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.

Nobody would argue if we denote Usama Bin Laden(UBL) as the King of Terror. 911 was indeed an attack from the sky. Therefore "From the sky will come a great King of Terror" can be regarded as the description of 911. I think most of people would agree with me.

The final sentence "Before and after Mars to reign by good luck" is also easy to understand. Before 911, the US had begun air strikes against al-Qaeda bases in countries such as Afghanistan and Sudan. After 911, the War on Terror defined an era of continous wars.

The first question, however, is that 911 happened in Sep. 2001, not Jul. 1999. The apparent difference hurts the credibility of his prophecy. But this is one of few quatrains he named a specific year. Why would he take this risk?


It wasn't a risk, it was actually correct, when interpreted properly.

First of all, it's originally written in French, so must be taken from the exact French, before translating it into English.


The year 1999 is simply reversed, into 9111. The 9 is the 9th month, September, the 11 is the 11th day of September, and the last 1 is the year ending in 1, which is 2001.

And "sept mois" means September, not seven, which most wrongly interpret it as. Sept confirms the 9 as the month September, the 11 is the day, the last 1 is the FIRST year of the first millennium to come, after Nostradamus wrote the quatrains, in the 1500's.

So it all fits perfectly, in fact.

The "King of Terror" is meant sarcastically, that Bin Laden was SEEN as this "King of Terror", while it was completely made up, a fictional figure that was already dead, or near death, by 911. Nostradamus is poking fun at it, by referring to him as the "King of Terror"!

This is confirmed in the next line - saying that the "King of Terror" will "bring to life the great King of the Mongols", another fictional figure 'brought to life", later on, the same way the "King of Terror" was brought to life.


Nostradamus wrote about each event in sets of 4 quatrains, not in one or two of them. 911 is described in three other quatrains, as well, making it a set of 4 quatrains, same as all the other events are.

Century 1, Quatrain 87
Earth-shaking fire from the center of the earth.
Will cause the towers around the New City to shake,
Two great rocks for a long time will make war,
And then Arethusa (the waterer) will color a new river red.


The two great rocks are the Twin Towers, of course. They will be used as their reason for the 'war on terror' all over the world, as we've seen already.

The last line once again connects 9/11 to a new war, claimed to be led by a "King of Mongols", another fictional figure like Bin Laden was.

Century 6, Quatrain 97
At forty-five degrees, the sky will burn,
Fire approaches the great new city,
Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up
When they want to have proof of the Normans.


Again, this matches 9/11 perfectly. The last line refers to people wanting proof that it was done by the 'Normans', which were terrorists in Nostradamus' time.

10, Quatrain 49
Garden of the world near the new city,
In the path of the hollow mountains,
It will be seized and plunged into the Vat,
Drinking by force the waters poisoned by sulfur.


Another perfect match, describing that the Towers will be "seized and plunged" from within, and releases sulfur into the waters as a result of being imploded.



He couldn't have described 9/11 any more accurately than he did, in fact.




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