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Candace Owens Is Taking Legal Action After Being Denied Covid Test For Political Views

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posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 03:14 PM
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The hits just keep on coming. Looks like the Aspen Colorado testing facility that rejected Candace request for a Covid-19 test may have bitten off more than they can chew...

Conservative author and commentator, Candace Owens is currently feuding with a testing facility in Aspen, Colorado after denying her a Covid-19 test over her political views.

Owens — who is also a host at The Daily Wire — has been sharing the developments on her social media and most recently said she is escalating the matter to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

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Seems the owners of the facility denied receiving any tax payer funding, which looks to be a lie. Candace is a bulldog and takes matters like these seriously, as factcheck.org found out.



posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: Klassified

Everyone is the asshole in this situation IMO.

One side for being the bastion of "Healthcare is a right" and denying attention.

The other for being all about rights of business owners until it doesn't fit their agenda.

Everyone will milk this for what its worth and more.



posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 03:29 PM
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This little episode of virtue signaling may cost that facility big time. The only thing which many of companies seem to understand and react to is financial hits to their bottom line. Ever since the Supreme Court ruled that money was speech and Corporations are people (corporated personhood), the hubris and malfeasance of certain companies has been out of control. This company seems fit that profile.

Candace Owens is not an individual to trifle with. As you've accurately stated, she is a bulldog who doesn't mind taking an encounter head on, as she has proven repeatedly over the past few years.

If the testing facility is in the wrong, which certainly appears to be the case here, I hope she takes them to the cleaners.

Good thread, thanks for the info. Cheers.



posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Klassified

Everyone is the asshole in this situation IMO.

One side for being the bastion of "Healthcare is a right" and denying attention.

The other for being all about rights of business owners until it doesn't fit their agenda.

Everyone will milk this for what its worth and more.


This line about Conservatives and Libertarians being 'all about the rights of business owners until it doesn't fit their agenda' is a garbage take. No self-respecting free-market proponent actually believes this due to the fact that we simply don't live in a free-market Capitalist society. We live in a Crony-Capitalist society, otherwise known as Fascism - a form of government where private and public entities work together to rule the populace.

This testing center gets government funding for each Covid test it processes, therefore not Capitalism but Fascism.

Walmart gets property tax breaks when they build a store in some small town in middle-America since they're "bringing jobs to the area". Therefore not Capitalism but Fascism.

Hospitals get to approve or deny a 'Certificate of Need' when another hospital wants to open in their area. Therefore not Capitalism but Fascism.

Amazon gets government contracts (aka tax money) to build out AWS server farms for government data collection purposes. Therefore not Capitalism but Fascism.

I think you get the point...so don't trot out that ridiculous line about "it's a private business so they can do what they want" anymore, no one believes that since there are practically no private businesses anymore (other than small businesses)...practically every mid-large size business works with the government in some way or another these days to create our neo-fascistic state.


(post by wdkirk removed for a serious terms and conditions violation)

posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 04:00 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker

The other for being all about rights of business owners until it doesn't fit their agenda.


The misuse of federal and state funds to chill her right to freedom of expression? I would be shocked if Candace did not stand up to that. It's entirely consistent with her agenda.



posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 04:03 PM
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a reply to: Subsonic


We live in a Crony-Capitalist society, otherwise known as Fascism - a form of government where private and public entities work together to rule the populace.


That's an oligarchy. But to what you said above it, its still a valid point to bring up. See citizens united, gay cake, and internet neutrality. Personally I hold different opinions about a lot of that, but the fact remains it shows hypocrisy... And the right isn't alone in that, obviously a lot on the left are celebrating this and calling for refusal of treatment for those who aren't vaxxed.


This testing center gets government funding for each Covid test it processes, therefore not Capitalism but Fascism.


No, you're thinking of socialism or communism, the people or stage control the means of production. We also subsidize banks going back a few decades... they can refuse us service. There are countless other examples BTW, which both sides have supported.



Walmart gets property tax breaks when they build a store in some small town in middle-America since they're "bringing jobs to the area". Therefore not Capitalism but Fascism.


Corporate monopoly... Ditch the buzzwords my guy, it isn't a good look.



posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 04:06 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker


medicare.gov
Section 1: Rights & Protections for Everyone with Medicare
    You have these rights:
      ■ Be protected from discrimination.
        —Discrimination is against the law. Every company or agency that works with Medicare must obey the law, and can’t treat you differently because of your race, color, national origin, disability, age, or sex (or gender identity).

While that does not specifically state "political affiliation" in that list, "political affiliation" is a covered form of discrimination under federal laws, and therefore ANY company that accepts Medicare--which this one does--is working with Medicare and therefore must obey anti-discrimination laws.

Yes, private businesses should be able to choose with whom they do business, but when said business makes the business decision to take taxpayer dollars in any form, there are rules and stipulation that they must follow in order to do so. If they don't like it, don't accept Medicare. There is no cognitive dissonance happening as you state--the only issue is that this business didn't hold up their contractual obligation when working with Medicare.



posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

The other for being all about rights of business owners until it doesn't fit their agenda.


The misuse of federal and state funds to chill her right to freedom of expression? I would be shocked if Candace did not stand up to that. It's entirely consistent with her agenda.


Allegedly received funding.

From link in OP-


Owens was denied medical care in the form of the Covid-19 test by Aspen Laboratories, a Colorado laboratory, whose owners Suzanna Lee and business partner Isaac Flanagan denied receiving any taxpayer funding.


They probably got funding... But I don't think anyone here has any evidence one way or the other. Just he said she said.

And again, I stated it's hypocritical for people to deny Healthcare when they claim it to be a right in their political platform.

She could get a test somewhere else... And my point remains, she'll milk the hell out of this for views and clicks. This isn't about access to health care, she'll drop that crusade once it has nothing to do with her anymore.

Just insane to see how many people are being grifted by influences and politicians.



posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: SlapMonkey

I'm with you.. I don't think people should be denied access to Healthcare.

I was just pointing out something else I saw is all. Some of these pundits raise hell about an issue until it affects them.



posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Klassified

The other for being all about rights of business owners until it doesn't fit their agenda.



Is every business in the US taxpayer funded at a state and federal level?

No.

This triggered head of this government funded organization has no authority to deny Candace Owens treatment/tests because this taxpayer funded organization is not a business, its an organization that relies on government funds (taxpayer money) to operate - like the department of transport etc

The gays can go bake their own cake or find a BUSINESS that supports their cake decorating requirements.

If you can't see the difference, that's on you.



posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 04:28 PM
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a reply to: Klassified

Wow, this the way fascism works in a nation, people making their own rules and laws even if they are under federal funding.

I hope this fascist facility gets shot down.



posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 04:31 PM
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a reply to: Klassified

Hopefully the Aspen Colorado testing facility is legally connected to hundreds of others.... Under a single holding company.




posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 04:47 PM
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It is a subtle difference. The Business Corps controlling and wagging the tails of our elected Gov = Fascism

The Gov wagging the tail of the Corporations = Communism.

We have no Capitalists running things in our Gov right now for sure.

Both of these related 'isims are based on Marxism. It is perhaps only slightly better that Fascism is here when they want Totalitarianism in fact. Is it far Right to be a Tolitarian? No way. It is Far Left like Marxism. The media has muddled the Right Left paradigm.

It is small government Liberals who we call Conservative in America. Liberal in the sense that you can do what you want if you don't hurt a living thing or someone else on purpose. Conservative in the sense you should not waste things. Money from the citizens being one of them to not waste. The ones called Liberals in America are Nanny state Totalitarians who want to tell you what to do and who you can do it with too. That is not liberal but they are liberal with abortion and letting hardened criminals back on the street while hating the men and women in Blue. They hire anarchists to do their dirty work as the Brown shirts did for Hitler's Nazi movement in Germany.





originally posted by: Subsonic

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Klassified

Everyone is the asshole in this situation IMO.

One side for being the bastion of "Healthcare is a right" and denying attention.

The other for being all about rights of business owners until it doesn't fit their agenda.

Everyone will milk this for what its worth and more.


This line about Conservatives and Libertarians being 'all about the rights of business owners until it doesn't fit their agenda' is a garbage take. No self-respecting free-market proponent actually believes this due to the fact that we simply don't live in a free-market Capitalist society. We live in a Crony-Capitalist society, otherwise known as Fascism - a form of government where private and public entities work together to rule the populace.

This testing center gets government funding for each Covid test it processes, therefore not Capitalism but Fascism.

Walmart gets property tax breaks when they build a store in some small town in middle-America since they're "bringing jobs to the area". Therefore not Capitalism but Fascism.

Hospitals get to approve or deny a 'Certificate of Need' when another hospital wants to open in their area. Therefore not Capitalism but Fascism.

Amazon gets government contracts (aka tax money) to build out AWS server farms for government data collection purposes. Therefore not Capitalism but Fascism.

I think you get the point...so don't trot out that ridiculous line about "it's a private business so they can do what they want" anymore, no one believes that since there are practically no private businesses anymore (other than small businesses)...practically every mid-large size business works with the government in some way or another these days to create our neo-fascistic state.



posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

I already said I don't agree with the companies decision... I also said anyone should be able to seek treatment.

The point is the outrage is selective.

As for the funding... Lot's of things are funded and subsidized by the government. Take for instance internet providers, they have received billions collectively to expand broadband. Speeds have not gone up in many of the areas that have received the money, data caps are still low for the amount people pay (it should be noted data caps barely impact the operating ability of ISP's).... Yet which side was it that helped push the debate for corporate power in net neutrality?

This isn't about what's right or wrong, this is about who got wronged in this specific instance... A f'ing pundit. Now, I still think she should be able to get the test no matter how much I disagree with her (she's actually been pretty mild on COVID, doesn't seem to be full blown anti vax or anything, and nothing is wrong about discussion or debate around something especially if it's a "no no" by the moral police).



posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 04:57 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker



If I remember correct, it was clearly worded in that email, that it's denied because of her political opinion. That's discrimination.

For example the disability bathroom in my shop, if I had taken state funds, could never deny someone disabled to use it as long as the shop is open. Not that I ever would, I didn't use state funds because I had no room for three separate bathrooms and that is coupled with the state funding.



posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

I still haven't seen any evidence that they have accepted state or federal funding other than Candice's accusation.

Again, during the pandemic, I'd imagine they did get some kind of subsidy at the least, but it should be noted no one has provided proof.

Either way, I still don't think anyone should be discriminated when healthcare is the context... But I can still point out the irony when something happens to a pundit, which was the crux of my point.
edit on 3-9-2021 by CriticalStinker because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Sorry I kind of mixed the two things in my post.

I have not checked for evidence about the funding either. Is it not discrimination when it's complete private? Honest question, could be different laws than here.

I know here it never flies. If someone would apply for a job here and I dismiss (lack of a better word) the one applying because of their looks, heritage, religion (you get it) big trouble. There has been discrimination lawsuits because of head scarfe that couldn't be worn because of hygienic reasons (hair net is mandatory, no cloth) and it went through two instances until it got smashed.

That's how serious it is here, I figure it has to be similar with even more different and mixed demographics in the US.



posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 05:12 PM
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Business owner had every right to refuse her service.

""...we cannot support anyone who has pro-actively worked to make this pandemic worse by spreading misinformation."

We're big on rights around here, right?



posted on Sep, 3 2021 @ 05:13 PM
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If I'm understanding the situation correctly, Candace *has* to get this test, regularly, to go about every day life, which should already be criminal.
Now to deny that test based on politics... It's too deny going about everyday life.

That's not a good look on the people denying the service, OR the people requiring it.




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