originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Boadicea
I wasnt gas lighting here.
Good to know.
and Ok. do you do thing that are expected of your outward looks? if you are female, do you like wearing feminine clothes? If you are male ,do
you do things considered manly? Gender is a mental reflection.
I don't do a damn thing because it's "expected" of me. I wear what I wear for different reasons and purposes -- for example, old grubby clothes to
work in the yard, what is comfortable to wear day-to-day, whatever my activity and druthers call for. That's it. I never ever wear anything due to a
"gender" or others' expectations of "gender." I cannot help what others "expect" and while I try to dress appropriately for any occasion, gender does
not come into it.
I will say, however, that being a woman, I can wear jeans and T-shirts or I can wear a dress, and no one will question my choice as a woman. Jeans
and a T-shirt may not be appropriate for many occasions, but I'm rarely expected to wear a dress. I understand that's not the case for men for the
most part, unless it is cultural -- such as kilts for the Scottish.
Here the following link is good to explain what gender actually is. Apparently it is mentally influenced by actions and looks,like a manly man
bodybuilding or a woman wearing pretty clothes.
Your link is a perfect example of what I mean by conflating sex and gender, and it's wrong. From your link:
But the sharp demarcation fails because there is no single objective biological criterion for male or female sex. Sex is based in a
combination of anatomical, endocrinal and chromosomal features, and the selection among these criteria for sex assignment is based very
much on cultural beliefs about what actually makes someone male or female. Thus the very definition of the biological categories male
and female, and people’s understanding of
themselves and others as male or female, is ultimately social.
Sex is based upon the gametes produced by our body types -- small gametes by male bodies, large gametes by female bodies. That's it. Not all bodies
function properly, and may or may not actually produce those gametes due to defects and deviations; and the body type is normally indicated (and
identified) by several factors, including our anatomy. All of which are tangible and objective. They are not "cultural beliefs".
I will also add that a healthy and normal life for the female body is not static... it undergoes cycles and seasons based upon our internal (not
external) biology as we age. The female body is not fertile throughout its lifespan. The female body is born with all the gametes it will ever
produce, while men produce their gametes throughout their lifetime. While only female bodies menstruate, no female body menstruates all the time, or
all her life. A female body releases its gametes involuntarily... the male body releases its gametes voluntarily through specific actions. It is
natural and normal for the female body to cease menstruating at some points -- temporarily with pregnancy and permanently with menopause -- and for
her reproductive abilities to cease. What is normal at 5 years old, 15 years old, and 50 years old is very different. So the needs and circumstances
of females changes throughout their life in ways that a male body does not. These are not "social constructs". They are tangible and objective.
Only society's expectations and, at its extremes, society's demands are social constructs. We can call this "gender," but the vast majority of which
are based on stereotypes and often just plain wishful thinking. And not always practical, but sometimes based upon the practical. These expectations
and demands change and vary with the times and with the culture. They are intangible and subjective.