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Risk of rare blood clotting higher for COVID-19 than for vaccines

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posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 03:46 PM
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Remember that study claiming that Blood clot risk higher for COVID-19 patients than after vaccination? its one study which MSM forgets to mention.

The study was made University of Oxford.
The same University which had an interest with AZ from the beginning. Now they come up with a study claiming Blood clot risk higher for COVID-19 patients than after vaccination? even AZ vax?

What perfect timing for this type of data to be released. Even in their own study they add a number which is to hard to believe.



Researchers at the University of Oxford have today reported that the risk of the rare blood clotting known as cerebral venous thrombosis (CVT) following COVID-19 infection is around 100 times greater than normal, several times higher than it is post-vaccination or following influenza.



Last year.

AstraZeneca and Oxford University announce landmark agreement for COVID-19 vaccine



AstraZeneca and the University of Oxford today announced an agreement for the global development and distribution of the University’s potential recombinant adenovirus vaccine aimed at preventing COVID-19 infection from SARS-CoV-2.


MSM



COVID-19 patients face a much higher risk of developing blood clots than those vaccinated with AstraZeneca or Pfizer shots


Yet so many countries in the EU suspended AstraZenec for the report rise of blood clots.
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posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 03:49 PM
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Oxford vaccine results are in: here's how to ensure it is used




The Oxford vaccine – developed in partnership with AstraZeneca – stops 70% of people developing COVID symptoms. And, depending on how the doses are given, may even protect up to 90% of people. This follows recent announcements from Pfizer and from Moderna that their vaccines provide greater than 90% efficacy.


In Canada.


CALGARY, Alberta, May 11 (Reuters) - The Canadian provinces of Alberta and Ontario said on Tuesday they would stop offering first doses of AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine, with Ontario citing evidence that the risk of rare blood clots is somewhat higher than previously estimated.


That the risk of rare blood clots is somewhat higher than previously estimated
And you have in Canada CTV bringing up Blood clot risk higher for COVID-19 patients than after vaccination dispute the the reports of BCS.
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posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 03:56 PM
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What is the point here? Has the claim not always been that Covid puts an individual at more of a risk for blood clots than those who have been vaccinated?

I have not seen as much variation to this. You just have another study supporting the position that covid has the higher potential of causing blood caught issues.

I guess I would say that with more time and more data, the accuracy of the conclusions made have increased .



posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 04:08 PM
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a reply to: MDDoxs

You miss the whole point its a biased study because this study is coming from the same university where they worked along with the vax AZ.

This study is biased. There is a reason why so many countries suspended and banned AZ in the first place its because of the somewhat higher risk chances of BCs in AZ than previously estimated.

Now you have a biased study claiming that Covid Causes more chance of a BC?



posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 05:02 PM
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Sure, the event of cerebral venous thrombosis is higher in virus events, but is very rare at that. Steer the people away from looking at the whole picture, Deep Vein Thrombosis and heart clots are about the same in the virus and some of the vaccines and overall, those other clotting problems are serious events. Focusing only on one clotting disease is steering us away from the truth. Yes, a stroke is not good, but those other problems are serious too.



posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 05:12 PM
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As I clearly pointed out on the other thread there were about 5 or 6 other academic institutions that were also heavily involved with this report.

Astrazenica manufactured and distributed the vaccine at cost price of less than £3 per shot as opposed to the 20-30 that the us firms "sell" theres for.

Oxford is not making any money from this vaccine and it also proved the same results for Pfizer which could be seen as a competitor and stated the results would also be the same for moderna and other vaccines.

So if we take away profit and we take away it being any safer than the competition and we add the other revered institutions that were involved how exactly does this conflict of interest.come about and how does it benefit Oxford university or astrazenica.

Bear on mind astrazenica has already said they have no interest in making future vaccines and the division will most likely be seperated from az and become a not for profit entity



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posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 05:16 PM
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Depends on the variant. I bet the new Delta variant produces far less blood clot than the original strain, considering the new Delta variant is highly attenuated and produces symptoms very close to common cold symptoms.
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posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 07:48 PM
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originally posted by: amazingexplorer
……. I bet the new Delta variant produces far less blood clot than the original strain, considering the new Delta variant is highly attenuated and produces symptoms very close to common cold symptoms.


What in the world makes you think the Delta variant is attenuated?

www.cdc.gov...

“ The Delta variant is highly contagious, more than 2x as contagious as previous variants.”

“Some data suggest the Delta variant might cause more severe illness than previous variants in unvaccinated people. In two different studies from Canada and Scotland, patients infected with the Delta variant were more likely to be hospitalized than patients infected with Alpha or the original virus that causes COVID-19.



posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: amazingexplorer

Who knows a six-month trial on something which has to alter DNA has to be willful neglect for a quick buck. Just saw the news flash on the TV in NZ woman dies of a Phizer shot. Surprised they put that out. Mabey the agenda is cracking apart. Aussie has given everyone gag orders on that sort of thing.



posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 08:29 PM
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originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: amazingexplorer
……. I bet the new Delta variant produces far less blood clot than the original strain, considering the new Delta variant is highly attenuated and produces symptoms very close to common cold symptoms.


What in the world makes you think the Delta variant is attenuated?

www.cdc.gov...

“ The Delta variant is highly contagious, more than 2x as contagious as previous variants.”


More contagious, but less lethal. If you look at recent death to case ratios, it is much lower than last year's numbers. A more successful virus is one that infects more, kills less, gets less attention from people.
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posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 08:52 PM
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So blood clots aren’t as rare as they are telling us?a reply to: HawkEyi



posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 08:54 PM
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a reply to: amazingexplorer

Hard to say. After all, hospitals have had a lot of patients on which to develop techniques to keep people alive since last year.

But how are the hospitalization rates doing? Are they better now than they were? Fewer infected being hospitalized?
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posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 10:09 PM
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something which has to alter DNA

Which vaccines do this?



posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 11:20 PM
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a reply to: Phage

The messenger protein in the vaccine has to alter the DNA of a cell to make it produce a spike, which won't fit the Coronavirus so the theory goes. Correct me if I am wrong. The body would reject these particles but they are wrapped in a lipid envelope, which fools the cell into accepting it. Once in the cell, it enters the microconidia and gives it the information. It could not do it any other way.
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posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 11:22 PM
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The messenger protein in the vaccine has to alter the DNA of a cell to make it produce a spike



Once in the cell, it enters the microconidia and gives it the information.

No. Incorrect. Wrong. False.

The mRNA never enters the nucleus of the cell (where the DNA is) or the mitochondria. It causes ribosomes (which exist in the cytoplasm) to produce the spike protein by acting as a "stencil".

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posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 11:32 PM
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a reply to: Phage

So instead of your DNA instructing the cell if it ever does, it just hacks the system and makes it produce a spike. It says in this instruction manual that the injection stays at the injection site, this is false. coronadx-project.eu...



posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 11:35 PM
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a reply to: anonentity

Your DNA never instructs the cell to produce the spike protein.



It says in this instruction manual that the injection stays at the injection site, this is false.
I don't see where it says that but according to whom is it false? Has the vaccine been detected in other locations?
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posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 11:41 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Yes it collects in the ovaries and kidneys, it has to leak into the lymph system. That's why the side effects are admitted as myocarditis. If the jab leaks into small capillaries and gets into the cell wall there it also produces a spike protein and can cause clotting, it can cross the blood-brain barrier as well. How's the headache?.



posted on Aug, 29 2021 @ 11:44 PM
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a reply to: anonentity

Please provide evidence that the vaccine has been found in the ovaries and kidneys. Or the lymph system. Or the brain.


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posted on Aug, 30 2021 @ 12:00 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Have a look at this one it mentions that, you can get a false high PSA reading. It also mentions swollen lymph nodes. If it stays at the site you should not have any other problems than a sore injection point. They don't aspirate the needle anymore so it's quite conceivable some get shot into a small vein or arteriole. www.bitchute.com... Ill see if I can get a decent review of the information you mentioned.



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