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originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: putnam6
It is kind of common sense to me. Every other vaccine in history hasn't really provided any resistance to the next strain. It is why we sometimes miss it with the flu vaccines. Sure it can help somewhat, but this one is solely man made, as in no "dead" virus in it.
Sorry I haven't asked yet, what vaccine are they saying she should get or which are you considering? Are all of them acceptable for the surgery, or only Pfizer?
I only ask because I can see this quickly becoming another argument with folks...."which vaccine did you get"?
I am sorry for the situation you are in where you don't feel you have a choice....I hope I am never in the position you are in, and that is not me being insensitive, it is me being empathetic because I know this is a hard decision.
originally posted by: game over man
a reply to: putnam6
For starters your mom might not have any reaction to the vaccine. Secondly yes you all should get vaccinated. Lastly I'm sorry to hear about your older sister hopefully she will be home soon.
As far as the thread goes, sure the vaxx and unvaxx could live together but the home will be better protected against covid if everyone is vaccinated.
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: putnam6
It is kind of common sense to me. Every other vaccine in history hasn't really provided any resistance to the next strain. It is why we sometimes miss it with the flu vaccines. Sure it can help somewhat, but this one is solely man made, as in no "dead" virus in it.
Sorry I haven't asked yet, what vaccine are they saying she should get or which are you considering? Are all of them acceptable for the surgery, or only Pfizer?
I only ask because I can see this quickly becoming another argument with folks...."which vaccine did you get"?
I am sorry for the situation you are in where you don't feel you have a choice....I hope I am never in the position you are in, and that is not me being insensitive, it is me being empathetic because I know this is a hard decision.
No worries my friend it's just life and a hundred years from now none of this will matter. I figured I was going to be thinking about it and I might as well include ATS in the situation
Well, which version? who knows but we will be asking that tomorrow. I know most places you don't have a choice it's whatever they have on tap.
The heart stuff bothers all of us both my grandfathers died of heart disease, technically so did my father even though he was in the throes of stage 4 pancreatic cancer that and the chemo wore him out.
originally posted by: game over man
originally posted by: shasta9600
originally posted by: game over man
a reply to: putnam6
For starters your mom might not have any reaction to the vaccine. Secondly yes you all should get vaccinated. Lastly I'm sorry to hear about your older sister hopefully she will be home soon.
As far as the thread goes, sure the vaxx and unvaxx could live together but the home will be better protected against covid if everyone is vaccinated.
and also for starters, if she were to get "CV" she would have a great chance to get over it and then have some immunity built up.
If she isn't even testing "positive" with the misused PCR test, why would this vax be required for a surgery?
Being an anonymous voice online and putting out she has a great chance is misinformation. You are not her doctor, don't know any details about her or unvaccinated covid positive patients who are in her category and similar/identical traits and medical history. You can't apply the total statistics to individual people and call that the most accurate assessment you can make.
originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: putnam6
Professionally? You have too many negative possibilities x (times- 5-6-7 times with people there) in for consideration.
I hope not, but someone's bound to get sick. The rest may fall.
Decide whatever is best for you and family.
God bless....
EMT/ADV Life Supp
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: nonspecific
Is this entire thread based on the premise that somebody who is vaccinated can somehow hurt an unvaccinated person?
I don't think that I've ever experienced a situation where some many people are denying science using so many stupid arguments, and I'm old enough to remember the CFCs and the Hole in the Ozone Layer and how the science deniers went insane about that.
originally posted by: game over man
a reply to: putnam6
For starters your mom might not have any reaction to the vaccine. Secondly yes you all should get vaccinated. Lastly I'm sorry to hear about your older sister hopefully she will be home soon.
As far as the thread goes, sure the vaxx and unvaxx could live together but the home will be better protected against covid if everyone is vaccinated.
originally posted by: putnam6
So here's the deal after 6 weeks of saying my Mom doesn't need to get vaccinated before her surgery, her doctor is saying she ought to get vaccinated before her knee surgery. Pretty perturbed at this we wasted all this time where she could have got the vaccine and then recover and have surgery and now it's gonna be mushed together.
Not to mention the rest of us here do not want to get vaccinated, but we are our Mom's caregiver and we have to be around her. So my question shouldn't the rest of us get vaccinated too? I mean hell we don't want her to catch it from us or LOL we catch it from her even if she is vaccinated.
So what say you ATS...
PS
Just dumped on us as well our, older sister is on a ventilator thankfully they do have a walking protocol and they expect her to be fine eventually. So there is a lot stuff going on.
originally posted by: Zitterbewegung
a reply to: putnam6
Hell no. The vaccinated are creating the new mutations. I'm terrified of vaccinated people. Not only because they are the main cause of new covid mutation but because they are uninformed and willing to follow whatever leadership tells them to. Just like WW2 Germany. Terrified.
originally posted by: vonclod
originally posted by: Zitterbewegung
a reply to: putnam6
Hell no. The vaccinated are creating the new mutations. I'm terrified of vaccinated people. Not only because they are the main cause of new covid mutation but because they are uninformed and willing to follow whatever leadership tells them to. Just like WW2 Germany. Terrified.
Um..no, you are wrong..period.
originally posted by: Zitterbewegung
originally posted by: vonclod
originally posted by: Zitterbewegung
a reply to: putnam6
Hell no. The vaccinated are creating the new mutations. I'm terrified of vaccinated people. Not only because they are the main cause of new covid mutation but because they are uninformed and willing to follow whatever leadership tells them to. Just like WW2 Germany. Terrified.
Um..no, you are wrong..period.
How am I wrong. If you are vaccinated in the middle of an uncontrolled pandemic then mutations will bubble up to take over.
originally posted by: vonclod
originally posted by: Zitterbewegung
originally posted by: vonclod
originally posted by: Zitterbewegung
a reply to: putnam6
Hell no. The vaccinated are creating the new mutations. I'm terrified of vaccinated people. Not only because they are the main cause of new covid mutation but because they are uninformed and willing to follow whatever leadership tells them to. Just like WW2 Germany. Terrified.
Um..no, you are wrong..period.
How am I wrong. If you are vaccinated in the middle of an uncontrolled pandemic then mutations will bubble up to take over.
Oh jeez, the Delta variant came from unvaxxed India!!!!!
SMGDH
originally posted by: vonclod
originally posted by: Zitterbewegung
originally posted by: vonclod
originally posted by: Zitterbewegung
a reply to: putnam6
Hell no. The vaccinated are creating the new mutations. I'm terrified of vaccinated people. Not only because they are the main cause of new covid mutation but because they are uninformed and willing to follow whatever leadership tells them to. Just like WW2 Germany. Terrified.
Um..no, you are wrong..period.
You smug person claiming that you got vaccinated to protect others when it was just for yourself. I bet you didn't even know anything about the mRNA or vector DNA vaccines. You probably just jumped in line to get it thinking you are the hero. Do you realize vaccinating a population when a disease is not contained is detrimental?
How am I wrong. If you are vaccinated in the middle of an uncontrolled pandemic then mutations will bubble up to take over.
Oh jeez, the Delta variant came from unvaxxed India!!!!!
SMGDH