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Entire Fast Food Clusters Closed due to lack of Workers

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posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 01:11 AM
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Just like many places in the US, we have a cluster of fast food place in a town near us.
McDonald’s, Burger King etc.

Several of them are now “temporarily” CLOSED due to lack of workers! Not one, or two or three, but several. People are starting to freak out a bit here now. Can’t get their Mcdee’s Coke, or Whopper, or Kentucky fried chicken. I think things are going to get weird here real soon. I noticed lots of noise on social media starting.

I know a lot of people want to blame unemployment benefits yada yada, I think that is a very small part.
Right now so many places are hiring at top wages, you’d be stupid to work fast food, so they aren’t. All the college kids I know
Are working at Menards, much higher pay and easy easy job. Teens are all working at Kwik Trip due to their very flexible hours.
Fast food better catch up or they are going to fold real quick. Bring out the robots, or higher pay or something. I think we are going to see a fast food revolution of sorts.

The other aspect of fast food, customers treat the workers like crap. I know a young lady that worked fast food during the height of Covid. The way she was treated was inexcusable. It wasn’t a rare thing either, it was a daily occurrence. She recently quit and I don’t blame her one bit. Who wants to work a thankless, low paying, greasy job?

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Potratz said he’s increased wages for his line-cook position by as much as $3 an hour compared to pre-pandemic wages. The position now starts between $16 and $19 an hour, with a dollar-an-hour bonus after learning the menu, but still no bites.


Hmmm would you rather be a line cook, or work in an cushy air conditioned job for at least $5 more an hour?
Some restaurants are raising wages and trying to pass it onto customers, that isn’t working out so well either.
The fancy restaurants near us aren’t doing so hot either, so they are putting cute signs on their menus that says “nobody wants to work, please be patient”


I’ll give some insight to how short we are of workers here. I needed landscaping help and all the companies are booked. I paid teens $50hr to help and one of them never even returned!! Can you imagine $50 an hour as a teen? The neighbors offering $20hr for lawn help have no clue why nobody is responding.




edit on 19-8-2021 by JAGStorm because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 01:46 AM
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Japan 157 Mc Donalds's stores closed due to corona virus
Japan over 60 Starbucks stores closed due to corona virus.
edit on 0800000028472021-08-19T01:47:28-05:00472808am1 by musicismagic because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 01:59 AM
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Just looked it up, McDonald's had it's worst profits in 13 years because of Covid, closing 200 locations. Fast food is trash, I hope all of the companies close their restaurants all over the world.



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 02:00 AM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

Is this also due because of the covid measures u know that thing?



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 02:15 AM
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originally posted by: game over man
Just looked it up, McDonald's had it's worst profits in 13 years because of Covid, closing 200 locations. Fast food is trash, I hope all of the companies close their restaurants all over the world.



Saturdays and Sundays are what keeping most McD's open here. Even the malls with McD's are understaffed.



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 03:40 AM
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what many people fail to realize, or just to be honest don't want to know is that there are many reasons for this issue.and as you have said, unemployment money is just a small part of it, if it is even a part of it at all. but it does make a convenient excuse that people can rile at, while they ignore the real issues behind it.

the biggest problem is that right now there is a ton of what people consider good jobs out there, open and theirs to apply for. the ONLY REASON people have in the past have taken such "crap jobs" is that they felt they had no choice. had no choice because for many people, regardless of skills and education, they were the only jobs open and available to them. and right now that situation is not being seen to exist. and as a result those "crap jobs" are being completely ignored. even worse for those crap job employers, their currant staff are seeing the same things, and thus are quitting, as they also try to get those good jobs that are now available. and the fact it is not just people not applying for those jobs, but are also leaving those jobs, actually shows that it has nothing to do with unemployment money.

and so the simple fact is that these so called crap jobs want staff, then they need to deal with why people consider them crap jobs in the first place. and pay is of course a part of it, it is not everything. of course these businesses are free to ignore this, and just not have staff for a couple or so years until the job market goes back to normal, where once again people will feel they have no other choice but to take these crap jobs, once again out of desperation. and one thing more that i suspect has helped greatly in making the problem worse, is all the commenting the last few years on articles about people in these jobs wanting fair pay for their work. comments like "if they want to make more money, they should go get a better job". and that is EXACTLY what we are seeing right now. and ironically it's many of those same people who made such comments now whining about the actually doing so.

so what is a "good job", and a "crap job?

a "good job". first a lot of it may be pay rates. not much menial, physical labor. jobs like desk jobs, where you sit most of the time instead of standing. full time hours. steady scheduling, such as 9-5, monday through friday. decent treatment by management, and especially those they "serve" and come into contact with. a feeling they might be actually doing something they might be proud to say they do.

so what are conditions like in retail and restaurants, known as "crap jobs". typically minimum wage, or even under minimum wage (making them dependent on the generosity of the public they serve to be "paid". something that needs to be outlawed). spending most of you shift on your feet. doing menial, physical labor. hours are not only not generally full time, but in many cases nowhere near steady. you might work 10 hours one week, and 30 hours another week. which means not having a reliable, steady income. and shifts can be all over the clock, any day of the week. which makes it hard to do things or plan things outside of work hours, typically only knowing what your shifts are maybe two weeks in advance. such jobs are known for having management harassing you, to get more and more work for their measly wages. and outright abused, even physically assaulted by customers, typically over things that said employee has no control over in the first place. made to feel like they deserve to be abused, and be poor, because they don't have a "good job".

so which type of job are you going to look for? which is really what the currant problem is. the ONLY reason people have taken these crap jobs", is because they were the only jobs available. and right now there are many "good jobs" available.

now these crap jobs could find the employees they need by doing two things. first fix the problems they are known for. such as giving full time hours. by giving steady scheduling, even if those shifts are something like 3pm to midnight, and say sunday thru thursday, or tuesday to saturday. you would be surprised at how people might actually WANT to work such a shift steadily. they can treat their staff better. and adopt no tolerance policies against irate customers. such as, if said custumer starts yelling or abusing staff, they are immediately kicked out and management refusing to even listen to their complaints. of course not everything can be nicely fixed, and that is where wages come into play even more. make it WORTH doing the labor, and dealing with the a$$hole public, by paying them that much more to make said job competitive with the "good jobs". likely paying MORE than those "good jobs, to make the crap job seen as the better choice for the prospective employee.



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 04:10 AM
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fast food jobs haven't been for kids or whatever for a long time, in my home town the people that work there are a blend of work release inmates and retired people except for nights. those night jobs are filled almost exclusively with single moms and I don't want to sound rayciss by saying so.

most of those places need to fail anyways

the 10 dollar menu at mcdicks is so terrible I could spend the extra 5 bucks and make a better burger and fries.

let them go to hell, I will be the first one in line making bids on their franchise kitchen equipment (minus the ice cream machine) when their stuff goes for sale on auction. Then I can fulfill my child hood dream of having an outdoor kitchen.

Now will someone get me an angry burger with an extra large beer



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 04:55 AM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

Wait a little. Once the Afghan refugees arrive this "problem" will resolve.



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 05:05 AM
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originally posted by: PolyATS
a reply to: JAGStorm

Wait a little. Once the Afghan refugees arrive this "problem" will resolve.


there goes my hope for the pork rib sandwhich at mcdicks being a standard meal thanks asshole

jk bro your ok but had to get it out



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 05:37 AM
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I don’t pretend to have the answers, but I need 10 more electricians tomorrow. Competitive wages with full benefits. Not having much luck.

Last week I was having drinks with my support group, local businessmen and everyone agreed, it’s near impossible to enforce discipline because the employees know everyone is so under staffed.



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 05:54 AM
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I know a lot of people want to blame unemployment benefits yada yada, I think that is a very small part.


If unemployment benefits is only s small part of what is causing this issue...

... where is all the extra work coming from?

If your area had enough employees in 2019 to staff both the fast food industry and "what people consider good jobs" adequately; the "good job" positions must have increased in preparation to what fast food has lost in 2021....

... the other option is that covid killed enough people to cause a significant shrink in the labor force.

So again where did the extra work come from that the "good jobs" business are experiencing?

And how long lasting is that surge in work? You mentioned Menards as a "good jobs" location, which I think is a home improvement store. I can imagine that after a year of being locked up in ones home their could be a back log of work people want to do on their homes that is causing the surge in work. I can imagine other businesses seeing similar back log surges. Even the big technology company I work for is seeing a back log of orders this year.

What happens when the back logs are worked through? Will the "good jobs" companies shed jobs? Will those people than need to go back to fast food?



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 06:19 AM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

$50/hr for lawnwork?

I can have a team sent to your home immediately.


You may need to print up some paperwork for them.

Oh, and don't mention anything about pay, I'll handle that.

No, but seriously.

We are having the same problem here, actually it's so bad that they are doing commercials practically begging for workers in fast food and related.

Those kids taking the Menards over MacD's are smart and that's how it's supposed to work

Next thing on the agenda, mandating jobs?
edit on 8/19/2021 by MykeNukem because: sp.



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 07:04 AM
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Honestly if these places would vanish, I would not shed a single tear. The work conditions there are awful.

Because of dumb # I did in my youth I had to work in a McD for a few weeks after school, to avoid being sued. I shred their tablet trays while trying to drift on them, placed under the rear wheels so they skid. Owner made a deal with my foster parents.

Anyways, working conditions there are inhuman.



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 07:13 AM
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Long before the pandemic, I have noticed that the quality of food and service at fast food franchises was getting pretty bad while the price of their menus went up to the point where I could spend the same at a local sit down restaurant with better food, better service and larger portions.

True that when pressed for time, it's nice to get meals to go in about 5 minutes, but not if it disagrees with your taste buds and stomach and still costs about the same as a mom and pop restaurant. So if that's what you need, most people have a smart phone and can find a choice restaurant to order take out when they need it on the go.



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 07:29 AM
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a reply to: JAGStorm
I live in a rural town and we are having the same problem here, though not to the degree you are. Some of our local restaurants have started reducing hours and closing Sundays. I know the managers of these places. All of them point to employee shortages. You can add convenience stores to that list as well. They're staying open but under staffed.

Even the manufacturers have begun putting up billboards along the main roads begging people to work with increased pay and bonuses. It's not helping as much as they had hoped.



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 07:48 AM
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I wonder if it’s not a multi-factor ‘perfect storm’ we’re seeing here; some factors have been known and discussed for years, while other factors are entirely due to COVID:

1). Members of the Silent Generation have been retiring for years; the last of them have now retired and employers are having difficulty replacing them;

2). Offshoring jobs has left hundreds of thousands of people without a job. Their skills are not easily transferable;

3). Automation has replaced many jobs among ALL skill sets, from factory workers to engineers;

4). Illegal immigrants quietly returning home, worried about lockdowns, food shortages, lack of work, etc;

5). Making more in COVID Unemployment payments than they could earn at their crap jobs.

6). The realization that not everyoneneeds to go to college—this relates to Point 1, above.

The Silent Generation are men and women born during the Great Depression. Their parents were mostly unskilled laborers who fought to keep food on the table during the Depression. Their parents no doubt noticed that unskilled laborers were a dime a dozen during the Depression, while their bosses, who had attended college (about 10% of the adults), managed to hold on to their jobs; College grads who lost their jobs could still be laborers. Thus, college was seen as an all but guaranteedmeans of success.
The result is that the Silent Generation was the first generation to go to college in large numbers—especially since the older cohort in that generation fought in World War 2 and Korea and were eligible for the GI Bill. They greatly benefitted from their college education, so they (like their parents before them) touted college as a golden path to success. Their children (the Baby Boomers) almost had no choice; it was simply expected, ‘end of discussion’.
Unfortunately—or fortunately—for us Baby Boomers, personal computers and an increasingly digitized world helped us become even more productive than our parents. The economy boomed: jobs that hadn’t existed in the 1970’s and ‘80s were created, wealth accumulated, which meant MORE consumption of an ever-increasing variety of goods and services. It seemed like the party would never end. As Boomers demanded more goods and services, college grads could fill the gaps in an increasingly complicated and high tech economy, leaving low- and no skill jobs to teenagers and illegal aliens. The days when a garbage man could support a wife and three kids were long gone.
Fast forward to 2008. The financial crisis hits. Boomers and their older children are losing their jobs left and right just as years of Offshoring begin to bite. The only folks who seemed to keep their jobs were skilled laborers: plumbers, electricians, HVAC repairmen. And why not? Times were hard, but no-one’s gonna wait until the economy gets better before they hire a plumber to fix the leak in their basement. I think a LOT of us Boomers took note that college was NOT a guarantee for success; I myself advised one of my kids to be a licensed electrician. He hated college so he dropped out and never looked back. If all goes well, he’ll have his license next year.
As the financial crisis deepened, more formerly White Collar employees were forced to take lower paying jobs, even work as unskilled labor, just to make ends meet. This displaced who knows how many illegal aliens from the lower end of the economy. According to one report I read, the federal government estimated that roughly one million illegal aliens had returned home in 2008. If this is true, then it’s possible that we’re stillliving with it’s effect. When Covid hit, the cycle repeated itself, further depleting the low- and no skill labor force.
Then comes the (arguable) ability to make more in COVID unemployment payments than working. If the child credit was $500 per child per month (later increased to $600, but for a shorter period), plus $380 normal unemployment benefits. PLUS whatever state unemployment benefits one received, when contrasted with the average wage [according to the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco] of $1,000 per week, implies folks were better off just staying unemployed.

Not sure how we fix all this!



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 07:49 AM
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It's not just low skill labor jobs that are not filled.
I can't find enough skilled labor to fill jobs
My wife's credit union can't find tellers.
$15 an hour for tellers.... Nope.



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 07:57 AM
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where have those jobs come from? several places. there are those that could have retired years ago, but didn't want to. now they don't want to go back to work. that opens a lot of jobs, including higher positions that of course those below then in their company, plus outside are going for. which in turn opens up lower positions like a chain of firecrackers going off down the line. many companies laid off a ton of their work forces, and now are reopening up those jobs. and along the way ditching those they may have wanted to get rid of, but couldn't for various reasons. and why rehire people who didn't produce as well as they wanted them to. after all lots of people looking to take those jobs. and yes just like there is a ton of jobs open, meaning people can be more selective. likewise there are also a lot of people to choose from looking for jobs. meaning they can try to get better people and be selective.

there are also more jobs opening as some companies and businesses have actually done well during the pandemic, and are expanding. how long those jobs last is unknown, but for now they are there for the taking. while others have started their own businesses, and thus have removed themselves from the job market. likewise some parents have changed the way they live, and many families who have had both parents working have found that in the end that second job did not really add any money to the family, that wasn't taken by the expenses of childcare. while others have found that life is better with only one parent working from being home thanks to the pandemic, and so have removed themselves from the workforce. while still others have decided their previous employment (especially in the "crap job" sector), have decided that their old job just wasn't worth it, and have decided that they won't bother going back to work except for a better job, or at least much better pay for that type of work, which might make it worth their effort and time. while still others, especially those in jobs like restaurants and retail, have decided quite simply that the abuse which has been increasing, and the added health risks of such a job, are simply not worth the time and effort for the pay such a job offers.

and yet even without all of that, we would still be seeing the problem. and that is thanks to the well known negatives of such jobs over the decades. and the simple fact is that without major incentives, such as (a lot), more pay and other work improvements which would make such work able to compete with what people feel are better jobs. the fact is until pretty much all other jobs are taken, people will not even start applying for those jobs.

think about yourself. are you going to apply at say McDonalds (where you are pretty much guaranteed to get hired, pretty much immediately), or are you instead going to apply for pretty much every other job out there that you feel is a better job, pays more, and has better and steady working hours first? if you are being honest, you will only apply at Mcdonalds (or other such work), only after you have completely exhausted every other job out there first. at best when you are desperate enough, you might apply for Mcdonalds, yet will be more than willing to quit at a moment's notice if something better comes along (which i believe we are seeing happen with so many quitting such jobs right now). and this will likely be a issue for several years, as the job market sorts it's self out.



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 08:03 AM
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Same thing here in Indiana. Restaurants either outright closed, or doing drive through only. Nearly 100% of businesses have signs up for help wanted.

But why should anyone work when they can sit at home and live off the govt teat.



posted on Aug, 19 2021 @ 08:07 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: JAGStorm

It's not just low skill labor jobs that are not filled.
I can't find enough skilled labor to fill jobs
My wife's credit union can't find tellers.
$15 an hour for tellers.... Nope.


gee i wonder why the credit union can't find tellers. it's not mc choke and pukes, but it's not all that far off from them either. another underappreciated job. standing for your whole shift. dealing with the a$$hole public. at higher risk of getting sick, especially during a pandemic (ps i know a few bank workers who got covid, most likely at work, dealing with the public). a fair amount of pressure, especially since it is easy to screw up, leaving you short of cash, which is a HUGE no, no. even a chance to get killed in a robbery. sorry, not sure i think $15/hour is worth it.



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