I Can't Believe What I Just Saw

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: VictorVonDoom

Of course they do. But let's use a little transparency here.

I ask odd ball questions and go against the grain a lot to get the gritty replies. Otherwise it's just preaching to the choir and a here's your gold star and flag fest.

And that's how it is when you go against the "vaccines should be mandatory" crowd in some circles. At least you can express your opinions here. At some social media sites, you would get banned for asking oddball questions that go against the grain.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: VictorVonDoom

Of course they do. But let's use a little transparency here.

I ask odd ball questions and go against the grain a lot to get the gritty replies. Otherwise it's just preaching to the choir and a here's your gold star and flag fest.

And that's how it is when you go against the "vaccines should be mandatory" crowd in some circles. At least you can express your opinions here. At some social media sites, you would get banned for asking oddball questions that go against the grain.

a reply to: game over man

Trump got the vaccine himself and urge other people to get it.

There's GOP members who thought they knew best, like Coumo. Florida's Gov. had beer cozies made up mocking Fauci, now he's gone back on his initial take.

a reply to: VictorVonDoom

Expressing an opinion is different then displaying information from a, what 10 second montage of Democrats saying random stuff and then going off the rails about this and that.

That's what I was calling out initially. Back up the montage in full context before jumping on the band wagon. That's my 'odd ball' question, to pressure people to think about what they saw instead of just jumping down the rabbit hole and believing it all as fact. I get a lot of flack for doing that, but I want answers and truths.

Meh I will keep my opinion of this thread to myself. However those defending the politics associated with the over the top politics associated with the novel virus covid-19 well 🤷‍♂️, your minds are made up. This thread is a good microcosm thou. Not to mention this is an American political topic also, I tend to not take much credence in the substance from others who do not vote and or live here or pay taxes that pay the salaries to these so callEd public figures who have the best interest at heart in regards to the people they represent.

I am pretty sure thou we can all agree what a mess covid-19 has made thou.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: game over man

Trump got the vaccine himself and urge other people to get it.

There's GOP members who thought they knew best, like Coumo. Florida's Gov. had beer cozies made up mocking Fauci, now he's gone back on his initial take.

So what happened to the Trump loyalist? Why aren't they getting vaccinated when Trump is promoting it? Trump called it Operation light speed.

a reply to: game over man

Maybe "Trump loyalists" aren't mindless drones that do whatever their leaders say. Maybe they think for themselves and make decisions based on the information at hand and how it impacts them and their families. Maybe they are naturally skeptical of the motives of people in positions of power.

In other words, the complete opposite of a liberal.

a reply to: game over man

I don't think he's promoting it as much as some democrats are.
Although you are right operation light speed was and still is a thing, it was his administration's brain child. The whole premise of this thread tho is democrats going against operation light speed and then back peddling once biden got in.

Which not all have been proven say such rhetoric. At the end of the day, politicians are all liars.

originally posted by: musicismagic
I like how he says " God has his hand on America ". I think now God has taken his hand off of America and we are now on our own.

George Carlin said that the best thing that you could say about "God," is that he's a real underachiever.

originally posted by: underpass61
a reply to: game over man

Maybe "Trump loyalists" aren't mindless drones that do whatever their leaders say. Maybe they think for themselves and make decisions based on the information at hand and how it impacts them and their families. Maybe they are naturally skeptical of the motives of people in positions of power.

In other words, the complete opposite of a liberal.

Or maybe the extremists on either end of the spectrum are both huge pots endlessly, tiresomely calling each other black.

originally posted by: game over man

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: game over man

Trump got the vaccine himself and urge other people to get it.

There's GOP members who thought they knew best, like Coumo. Florida's Gov. had beer cozies made up mocking Fauci, now he's gone back on his initial take.

So what happened to the Trump loyalist? Why aren't they getting vaccinated when Trump is promoting it? Trump called it Operation light speed.

Most conservatives are getting vaccinated. I think where the issue lies is we are against mandating it, vaccine passports, etc.

Not only that, the media is spinning stories to make it look like it is conservatives who aren't getting vaccinated when in fact, a large percentage of unvaccinated are in fact minorities.

a reply to: Edumakated

Not only that, the media is spinning stories to make it look like it is conservatives who aren't getting vaccinated when in fact, a large percentage of unvaccinated are in fact minorities.

Are you implying 'minorities' aren't conservative?

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Edumakated

Not only that, the media is spinning stories to make it look like it is conservatives who aren't getting vaccinated when in fact, a large percentage of unvaccinated are in fact minorities.

Are you implying 'minorities' aren't conservative?

No.

However, when 95% of black folks vote Democrat it is a valid assumption. So when we are discussing vaccines and we know something like 50% of black folks have not been vaccinated, it is a fake news for the media to keep claiming that it is conservatives that are unvaccinated.

Vaccination Rates By Race & State

originally posted by: underpass61
a reply to: game over man

Maybe "Trump loyalists" aren't mindless drones that do whatever their leaders say. Maybe they think for themselves and make decisions based on the information at hand and how it impacts them and their families. Maybe they are naturally skeptical of the motives of people in positions of power.

In other words, the complete opposite of a liberal.

Are you kidding me? They don't do what he says?? Haha ok...I guess we're pretending things now. You know the vaccination rate is basically 50% and not all states are swing states. But keep the polarized divide going online I guess.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: game over man

I don't think he's promoting it as much as some democrats are.
Although you are right operation light speed was and still is a thing, it was his administration's brain child. The whole premise of this thread tho is democrats going against operation light speed and then back peddling once biden got in.

Which not all have been proven say such rhetoric. At the end of the day, politicians are all liars.

Right....the left was against rushing into the vaccine there's still left voters against taking it same with right voters. I don't get the division online, I feel like people are smarter than this.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: game over man

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: game over man

Trump got the vaccine himself and urge other people to get it.

There's GOP members who thought they knew best, like Coumo. Florida's Gov. had beer cozies made up mocking Fauci, now he's gone back on his initial take.

So what happened to the Trump loyalist? Why aren't they getting vaccinated when Trump is promoting it? Trump called it Operation light speed.

Most conservatives are getting vaccinated. I think where the issue lies is we are against mandating it, vaccine passports, etc.

Not only that, the media is spinning stories to make it look like it is conservatives who aren't getting vaccinated when in fact, a large percentage of unvaccinated are in fact minorities.

Yup I agree with this completely. What I think is going on is there's anti Covid vaxxers who either forgot or didn't know they took vaccines when they were infants. Polio vaccine is from 1955, and we all are required by the school systems to take a number of other vaccines as a baby, measles etc...

So when IG or Twitter posts come out with these brief updates that mandates are coming they definitely sound like a dictatorship. I think it's possible there is just a lack of "general vaccine information" out there and the media is pushing the control/fear mongering narrative and people are upset, and they have every right to be, because it's presented terribly.

But then once people realized they've been vaccinated before in the past it will circle back to the government and pharmaceutical companies rushed through the Covid vaccine production.

I think an anti Covid vaxxer is different than your traditional anti vaxxer say from the 80's/90's...I think a lot of anti Covid vaxxer would eventually take a vaccine once all their questions and concerns are addressed.

a reply to: Edumakated

'Populist' Democrats are extremely conservative, not all democrats are 'left' leaning.

This is where the EC comes into play here, a lot of the black communities vote very conservatively based on their local governments and districts, not the federal election.

The vaccination rates within' black communities must have a much deeper meaning than meets the eye. Perhaps they too feel a sense of vaccine hesitation, after all authorities haven't been too kind to mot black communities, you think they will just roll over and take some random shot when I can bet most have already had Covid...

a reply to: game over man

It's always division, this is how those in power operate, divide and take over little by little... until the prime opportunity arises.

originally posted by: musicismagic
I have a family member there, can't believe this family member is actually forced into believing that its 10% of you[r] income to come through these holy doors to worship.

Giving ten percent of one's income to the church is Biblical: "Bring the full tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. And thereby put me to the test, says the LORD of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour down for you a blessing until there is no more need. Bring the full tithe into the storehouse, so that there may be food in My house."
Malachi 3:10

"Tithe" literally means "a tenth."

a reply to: EternalShadow
Dont forget when Kamala said she thinks Biden is a racist and a rapist lol