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Why are states, and the White House, becoming more threatening over vaccines that don't even work?

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posted on Aug, 10 2021 @ 07:43 AM
Just a short Rant...

Listened to local am staion - WJR - Motto "The Great Voice of the Great Lakes " Which should be the Great Voice of "PANIC" of the Great Lakes ...

They interviewed Dr. Joneigh S. Khaldun, Chief Medical Executive and Chief Deputy Director for Health and Human Services - MI ... and talked about the Children ... Being Masked. He (host) asked about her Children and she proclaimed they are vaccinated (2 of 3 of age) and all masked .... He went on a rant saying how its a good thing and how ill informed anti maskers are. Then states how this isn't a political message because she is a mother ... And how Everyone should take the Jab ...
Please .... She was appointed by Whitmer .... she is a political tool...

immediately following the interview was a commercial on Gum Disease which seems to cause every ailment known to man (and is accelerated with mask use - "Mask Mouth" ) then after the Break Host goes on a Rant on Sunscreen and how could the FDA approve cancer causing sunscreens we slather all over ourselves ... AND AGAIN ... children ....

These people are struggling to ramp up all fears - while cutting off their growing Pinocchio noses despite their face

Whoever can't see this manipulation - Your on your own ! Many have tried to get your eyes open ....

Their out there

More Fauci Lies: The Dirty Truth About the Only FDA Approved COVID Prescription


Whitewashing AIDS History - Huff Post no doubt

edit on 8102021 by MetalThunder because: (no reason given)

posted on Aug, 10 2021 @ 07:54 AM
There is a war on for our minds, it's true.

Using for diagnostic purposes a test not meant to be used for diagnostic purposes is a big clue as to the fraud and deception being used by Fauci & Co.

Having the government push a dangerous experimental shot that doesn't even work is an even bigger clue as to the fraud and deception being employed.

Will the people ever come to their senses and demand government bureaucrats be prosecuted?

posted on Aug, 10 2021 @ 08:26 AM

edit on 10-8-2021 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)

posted on Aug, 10 2021 @ 11:07 AM
a reply to: HiddenIdentity

Nice try. I said, "The vaccines were not mandatory world wide in response to your comment that they were."
You now reply with "mandatory in the US." Two different things.

It is not my responsibility to search any website you point out looking for data that supports YOUR position. I am not the lazy one here. It is YOUR responsibility to search out the data that supports your position and provide links to it.

I am guessing university was not among your accomplishments. Your misunderstanding of lazy and inability to cite references indicates a less than stellar education. If you did attend university, I suggest pursuing a refund.

posted on Aug, 10 2021 @ 11:53 AM
When Trump was in office most high ranking democrats were dead set against the vaccine. Here are a few quotes to consider.

"There's a skeptical American public about taking the vaccine – and they should be."
"Frankly I'm not going to trust the federal governments opinion and I wouldn't recommend to New Yorkers based on the federal governments opinion."
"I don't trust the president and I don't trust the FDA."
"Your going to say to the American people now here's a vaccine, it was new, it was done quickly, but trust the federal administration and their health administration that its safe?"
"I am not that confident in the approval process of the FDA."
"Your going to need someone other than this FDA and this CDC saying its safe."

"If and when the vaccine comes its not likely to go through all the tests and trials that are needed to be done."
"When we finally we do God willing get a vaccine, whos gonna take the shot? Whos gonna take the shot?"
"And the question of whether its real when its there, that requires enormous transparency."
"If Donald Trump cant give answers and his administration cant give answers to these questions the American people should not have confidence."
"You've got to make all of it available to other experts across the nation so they can look and see, so there's consensus this is a safe vaccine."

"We cant trust Donald Trump."
"If Donald Trump says take it – I'm not taking it."

"We cant trust the President and take his word and take a vaccine that might cause harm to us."

Now, understand, these same people are currently pushing, and attempting to mandate, THE SAME VACCINE FROM THE SAME COMPANIES and threatening to target unvaccinated people.

How do you spell pandemic? P - R - O - P - A - G - A - N - D - A

posted on Aug, 11 2021 @ 06:18 AM
Now you are just making things up to suit your simple misfire...I still have NEVER said they were ONLY mandatory in the US...that was a hasty assumption on your part....and I must admit seeing the Dunning-Kruger effect in full flower is a marvelous thing to experience. I am not one of those idiots that supported the orange, lying, braggard Draft dodging Trump...but I highly suspect you fit that bill. Trump serves as a once in a lifetime guidepost...a polestar....ask if you supported him and quick as a wink, the answer to the question, "Are you a dumb-#e?" is answered. a reply to: Vroomfondel

posted on Aug, 11 2021 @ 06:27 AM
a reply to: Salander Yes, the vaccinated ARE getting infected...BUT, they are not dying as before AND they are not being hospitalized as before.

"Just 26 of Alabama's 11,600 COVID-19 deaths were people who were fully vaccinated, and almost 2,000 COVID-19 patients currently being treated in state hospitals are unvaccinated." (Source: Scott Harris, Alabama State Health Officer)

In Michigan, 97 percent of COVID hospitalizations are among unvaccinated people and 99.5 percent of COVID-related deaths are in unvaccinated individuals. (Source: Michigan State Department of Health Services)

Over 99% of all Covid deaths in Texas are among the unvaccinated. (Source: Texas Department of State Health Services)

Vaccines work.

posted on Aug, 11 2021 @ 06:38 AM
a reply to: HiddenIdentity
Links please.
edit on 11-8-2021 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)

posted on Aug, 11 2021 @ 07:22 AM
a reply to: Timucuan

You guys are not paying attention at all, in NYC you have to show your papers in order to get into restaurants, next it will be grocery stores and everything else. This is just the beginning, so of course you won't be able to vote without a vaccine, this is getting ridiculous, imo. All over this so called vaccine, you can vote without getting the flu vaccine, you can go where you want or used to without proving you've been vaccinated with all the other vaccines, the sad thing is this is the beginning. We are living basically before WW2 started , they did this to the Jews and now they are doing this to the unvaccinated. Is it stupid? yes it is! All for political control, it's all about politics, your either for total control or your not. that's what it's come down to. I for one am against total control, I want my freedom back!

posted on Aug, 11 2021 @ 07:26 AM
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Jeez, you people are do see the names and organizations attatched to these quotes dont you? Take a second, look it up for yourself. I cant educate every simple mind as to how to look something up. I suspect it is a tactic one uses when he reads somnething that doesn;t agree with his mindset...never see it otherwise...(Link please),

edit on 8 11 2021 by HiddenIdentity because: "That was hard" That's what SHE said.

edit on 8 11 2021 by HiddenIdentity because: "That was easy" said yer Mama after..

posted on Aug, 11 2021 @ 07:27 AM
a reply to: Vroomfondel

Of course they did, they are all hypocritical liars, they also said back in Jan and Feb of 2020 how the masks won't work, and how they wouldn't force people to wear masks, and now in some places you can't enter a store wirhout a mask. That one happened over night, at first the CDC stated you wear a mask if you're sick and you have to go out, to now everyone needs one. They all back pedal and lie, it's what the left does the best, and people just believe them.

posted on Aug, 11 2021 @ 07:33 AM
The "left"?....There are just as many Conservative slaves wearing masks as there are's only the ignorant that see only one side here. Besides, there are no mandatory Mask provisions except from concerned civilian business ownsers who have the FREEDOM to decide "No shirt, No shoes, No mask, No service" That's an individual liberty we Americans possess....because you want to sit topless, shoeless and maskless in the Wal-Mart cafateria is no excuse for freedom to run my business any way I want to, lol..a reply to: liliththedestroyer

edit on 8 11 2021 by HiddenIdentity because: Ohhhh...that felt good.

posted on Aug, 11 2021 @ 07:41 AM

originally posted by: HiddenIdentity
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Thank you.

posted on Aug, 11 2021 @ 09:37 AM
a reply to: Vroomfondel

I have heard that falsie fauci funded the wuhan clinic for covid, by funneling $$$, after the USA forbid the gain of function research.
I have seen a video wherein the wujan group laughingly sat around discussing how to make money on the up-and-coming pandemic from the covid they had created, and planned to release as a bioterrorism agent. Covid is listed in the patents.
The speaker of the group mentioned how one may invest in disinfectant, masks, gloves, surgical wear ....

RE: Why the gov. and some states are pro masks and another shutdown...
1). Fear, control, submission
2). There are planned numerous riots once the forensic voter audit results are released; and masks are needed to help protect the identification of antifa rioters, along with the multitude of violent criminals released from prisons.

posted on Aug, 11 2021 @ 09:57 AM
a reply to: Vroomfondel


RE: Mandatory vaccinations

There is major panic because the public across the globe are not wanting to be FORCEABLY subjected to a strange substance injected into their blood, that MAY cause health problems immediately or later on.
1). The deadline is December -- when the covid numbers will be reduced significantly, while the flu numbers are increased significantly. There must be a Reasonable Explanation, as to why the covid disappears, and the usual flu returns as another variant.
IF the mass majority of the public do not become vaccinated, they cannot explain how they "conquered" the covid with the vaccine.
The REAL reason is the tests will be changed.

2). There are those who make the claim that the covid vaccine is a death-in-waiting drug. Their link sources validate conversations by "elite" [bill gates and others with the wherewithal] who would like to see the numbers of the population decrease.
a. perhaps by culling the herd [beginning with the weak, elderly, sick, non-contributors to hitlerism, and their idea of undesirables]
b. or perhaps by just sterilizing the herd

posted on Aug, 11 2021 @ 09:58 AM
a reply to: WaterproofedCrackpot

I have heard reports that indicate a reaction of infertility in men who have had the vaccine....

perhaps, sterilization is ONE goal...

posted on Aug, 11 2021 @ 10:08 AM

originally posted by: [post=26025825]Phage

Because the vaccines are being used under the EUA, severe reactions (related or not) must be reported to VAERS.

The VAERS website reports over 12,000 deaths associated with the covid vaccine.
There are also reports of over a hundred thousand violent, horrific and permanent health problem associated with the vaccine, and considered as vaccine reactions.

The website also claims that the numbers are UNDER-reported.

posted on Aug, 11 2021 @ 10:22 AM

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Vroomfondel

I'm thinking because the vaccines do work and prevent the serious onset of COVID 19 in most people.

I do not understand.

Do you mean that (similar to the covid disease and vaccine)....
a less-severe case of polio, small pox [et all diseases] is normal and acceptable for people who took those vaccines?

posted on Aug, 11 2021 @ 10:32 AM

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: SaneThinking

These vaccines have not been tested for anything other than effectiveness, and even that only to a modest degree. If the testing had been more stringent perhaps they would have discovered how poorly they work. To my knowledge, there has never been so many vaccines released to the general public without substantial testing for side affects and long term affects. We are the long term test group. Can anyone say, with any degree of confidence, what affect these vaccines will have on people 5 years after receiving them? 10 years? 20 years? NO. No one can. And that is a problem.

There are over 100 Attorneys and 1,000 Doctors who have filed a Class Action law suit against the CDC for [what those medical experts see as] irresponsible [as in fraudulent] reporting of the masks and the covid vaccine cases and deaths.

posted on Aug, 11 2021 @ 10:37 AM

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: andy06shake

Historically speaking the idea of a vaccine was not to lessen the effects of a disease but to prevent catching it in the first place. I think people would feel very differently about smallpox or polio vaccines if it merely reduced the severity of the disease but still allowed people to catch it and transmit it to others.

Apologies.... I did not see your comment, and just posted also about smallpox and polio vaccine reactions as being acceptable.

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