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Why are states, and the White House, becoming more threatening over vaccines that don't even work?

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posted on Aug, 6 2021 @ 10:19 PM
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As more and more cities and states around the US, and the White House, talk about vaccine mandates and preventing people from engaging in public activity until they can show vaccination papers, it seems the effectiveness of those vaccines is questionable at the very least.

Beckers Hospital Revue in Massachusetts posted an interesting article one week ago on 7/30/21.



Among 469 COVID-19 infections tied to a number of summer events and large public gatherings in Barnstable County, Mass., about three-quarters of cases occurred in fully vaccinated people, according to the CDC's latest Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report published July 30.



Of 469 infections associated with the events, about 74 percent were breakthrough infections, according to the report.

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According to the CDC these are delta variant infections. But my question still stands: Why are we being browbeaten to get a vaccine that doesn't work? All those dems from Texas who flew out of state to avoid doing their jobs? All fully vaccinated, at least half of them returned with covid. Now this from Massachusetts. 74% of these cases are among fully vaccinated people. And there are many stories like this.

The CDC, WHO kept banging on and on about masks and vaccines. Neither of which appears to stop people from getting or spreading covid. And here we are again, a year and a half later, with new variants, and still the CDC and WHO are banging on and on about masks and vaccines that don't work.

We let violent criminals out of prison early because of covid. If masks and vaccines worked, why didn't we just vaccinate them and give them masks and let them serve their terms like they should have?

Where is the incentive to get vaccinated if we know the vaccines aren't working and no one knows what the long term affects will be? Where is the incentive to wear masks that we know do not stop the spread of covid? As far as I can tell the only incentive is to avoid being fined and/or incarcerated for non-compliance.

We are forcing children in schools to wear masks, then cut out openings for their mouths so they can play musical instruments in band class. We wear masks while standing in line at a restaurant, then take the masks off when we sit next to each other in one big room to eat. We wear masks in line at the airport then share a closed ventilation system with a few hundred other people for several hours in flight. I sit here shaking my head thinking over and over again, "We cant be this stupid. We cant be this stupid. We cant be this stupid."

Then I look around. We are this stupid.


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posted on Aug, 6 2021 @ 10:22 PM
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It has never truly been about vaccination, rather compliance. That and introducing a foreign substance into your body so as to effectively control your internal biochemistry.



posted on Aug, 6 2021 @ 10:26 PM
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posted on Aug, 6 2021 @ 11:00 PM
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a reply to: Vroomfondel



We wear masks in line at the airport then share a closed ventilation system with a few hundred other people for several hours in flight.


I agree with most of what you said however in a passenger airline aircraft depending on the size of the aircraft all the air is sucked out and replaced every SIX minutes. Pressurized by the Air Cycle machines and vented overboard by two or more outflow valves. In the old days when people smoked you could see where the outflow valves were located from a distance by the brown nicotine stains on the belly of the aircraft. Otherwise carry on !



posted on Aug, 6 2021 @ 11:13 PM
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The vaccine doesn't seem to work that good, people who already had the virus know they already have immunity so they are not getting vaccinated nearly as much as the government thought they would. That makes the vaccine seem less effective since these people with good immunity are not joining the vaccine group statistics. So their rate of ninety five percent is only about eighty percent....people are not as dumb like politicians and the leaders of those health agencies believe they are.

I guess they will have to push more dumbing down chemistry into our food supply, they have told us that some foods and habits are bad, but only the ones that increased our intellect are considered bad. The plan to dumb down Americans so they believe in the lies of the government goes back many decades, they use food additives and food selection propaganda to make us stay away from the foods that increase our reasoning while pushing foods that make us follow their lead...yes there are foods that make us compliant to being ruled, that way they do not need to stick people in camps to recondition them.

Food science is very interesting once you get into it deeply.



posted on Aug, 6 2021 @ 11:46 PM
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a reply to: Vroomfondel

Why did the numbers of new infections start falling when the vaccinations started to go public?



posted on Aug, 6 2021 @ 11:48 PM
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Perhaps, delta is just basically the next cold?

Considering it seems to even present differently than the first strain we were supposed to fear, this one seems to just give you a wicked head cold for a couple days with maybe a sore throat.



posted on Aug, 6 2021 @ 11:55 PM
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a reply to: Vroomfondel

because...


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posted on Aug, 6 2021 @ 11:56 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Florida hospitals seem to indicate otherwise.

Worrisome that a lot of kids seem to be getting hospitalized now. That's different.


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posted on Aug, 7 2021 @ 12:11 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Citations?



posted on Aug, 7 2021 @ 12:17 AM
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They had that story in our news too, and about four paragraphs in, the quote from the hospital official was that yes, they had some COVID cases, but also a lot of cases from the usual seasonal respiratory viruses none of the kids got because they were all kept at home instead of getting them during the winter like they normally did.

So there was no indication if COVID was even the primary reason why more kids are hospitalized or just delayed onset cold and flu season.

But hey! The same news with that story also told us tonight that the flu vaccine will also offer protection against severe COVID complications, so there's that ... or at least some COVID cases were the flu all along.
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posted on Aug, 7 2021 @ 12:22 AM
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Florida had 32 pediatric COVID-19 hospitalizations per day between July 24 and 30, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Adjusted for population, that’s 0.76 kids hospitalized per 100,000 residents, the highest rate in the country.


Tampa Bay pediatric hospitals are seeing those higher admissions themselves. Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital in St. Petersburg diagnosed 113 COVID-19 cases in the first three and a half weeks of July, while the hospital only had 11 infections in the entire month of June, said Dr. Joseph Perno, the hospital’s vice president of medical affairs.

www.tampabay.com...


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posted on Aug, 7 2021 @ 12:27 AM
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I wonder how many kids were bussed there from the Mexican border?


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posted on Aug, 7 2021 @ 12:28 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Vroomfondel

Why did the numbers of new infections start falling when the vaccinations started to go public?


You mean when they changed the cycle threshold limit for vaccinated?

THEN?



Phhhst! NexT!



posted on Aug, 7 2021 @ 12:29 AM
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a reply to: Vroomfondel

The best thing that can happen is for 100 million (or more) Americans to contract Covid-19.

Get the Epidemic transitioned into a regularly occurring infection like the flu, cold, pneumonia, H1N1, etc..

Now, I cheer when the MSM excitedly spews large infection numbers. The larger the daily number, the closer we are to getting the government out of our lives on this subject.

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posted on Aug, 7 2021 @ 12:32 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ketsuko

Florida hospitals seem to indicate otherwise.

Worrisome that a lot of kids seem to be getting hospitalized now. That's different.



Dr. Ryan Cole might have an answer. The spike protein, he believes, IS the toxin that is causing these Covid-like diseases.

Before, children had to ingest it into their airways, and children have notoriously excellent lung health.

Now, with vaccines being administered to children, (Pediatrics includes those under 18) we might be seeing consequences of that.

But since there is VIRTUALLY NO MONEY going to the study of post-vaccine testing (outside of big pharma) we may never know.

www.bitchute.com...



posted on Aug, 7 2021 @ 12:43 AM
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The spike protein, he believes, IS the toxin that is causing these Covid-like diseases.
Did he think that before the mRNA vaccines came out?




But since there is VIRTUALLY NO MONEY going to the study of post-vaccine testing (outside of big pharma) we may never know.


I'm not sure what you mean by post-vaccine testing. And I have no doubt that you think this is just "big pharma", but tell me where you think money should be going?





The Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER) at the FDA is monitoring the safety of authorized COVID-19 vaccines through both passive and active safety surveillance systems. CBER is doing so in collaboration with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA), and other academic and large non-government healthcare data systems. In addition, CBER participates actively in ongoing international pharmacovigilance efforts, including those organized by the International Coalition of Medicines Regulatory Authorities (ICMRA) and the World Health Organization (WHO). These efforts are in addition to the pharmacovigilance efforts being undertaken by the individual manufacturers for authorized vaccines. A coordinated and overlapping approach using state-of the art technologies has been implemented.

www.fda.gov...


Because the vaccines are being used under the EUA, severe reactions (related or not) must be reported to VAERS.

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posted on Aug, 7 2021 @ 01:42 AM
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a reply to: Phage

You trust these mRNA/spike protein to soon and early. When considering so many Western leaders,polticans are forcing everyone to have a mandatory vaccination passports.



posted on Aug, 7 2021 @ 01:44 AM
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You trust these mRNA/spike protein to soon and early.

You are ignorant and only pay attention to those who say the mRNA vaccines are terrible.



posted on Aug, 7 2021 @ 01:46 AM
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You are ignorant and only pay attention


And you seem to be someone whose shilling for the Big Pharma. Clearly in your last posts. You are acting no different from a news journalists pushing these covid mRNA jabs as "Safe & Effective"

But your covid vaccination push isnt going to work on me. I am not going to be the guinea pig to find out the side effects. You seem rather awful quick to defend the mRNA vaxs and Big Pharma for that matter to.
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