Anti-VaX Mandate Protest in Lansing, MI 8/6/21

Strange how the propaganda has worked to paint "two sides" over this current, endlessly concerning viral program when it should only be one "side" alarmed over forcing something into the bodies of their fellows against their will...
especially when the issue is not generally fatal, the "cure" is nothing of the sort and alternative treatments exist.

They've made it into a political issue... where folks who used to say "my body, my choice" are now supporting forced injections. Amazing hypocrisy.

It's social engineering folks... and can't conclude that it is in our collective best interests, either.

a reply to: Nyiah

Wow a protest, we had some in the US but they are blocked by the media, remember when the protest against mandates during Trump, how the democrats pay for Antifa terrorist to made them into a anti Trump political statement.

What was mean to be peaceful protest for anti oppressing democrats governors were take over by terrorist and made into nothing but a political let burn everything mess.

And who got arrested and prosecuted? who bailed the terrorist, remember all? now the leaders live in million dollars homes.

Democrats hate America, I hope it does not happen again, let the people have a voice.

We really need demonstrations and protest again the fascisms and tyranny in the US.

People are getting fed up, I am getting fed up darn it.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut

Here in the states, some value their rights and freedoms.

What is sad is that folks who share your innate need to lord over others and just can't rationalize why someone wouldn't want to be told to do something especially when bereft of credibility.

There in the States, is where it is happening.

Ain't happenin' here, where everyone knows the value of a public health campaign. We are free to choose to not vaccinate, if we want. The government offers it free of charge, but turning up is still voluntary.

And if anyone doesn't toe that line......?

I mean you only count the ones that fall in line and let's not consider the scale differences between our two countries.

a reply to: chr0naut

Just like the vaccine nobody is mandated to wear a seatbelt. They made a LAW to require it but still no one mandates it, you might get a ticket but the odds are low on that as too many police are busy chasing down people not following a mandate that people wear a mask.

Or too many police have simply quit because when they enforce real laws that people violate like burning down buildings or murder the prosecutor just lets them go. But a mandate gets enforced, laws they just mandate them out of existence

a reply to: chr0naut

I always picture you in your pee stained undershorts, watching the latest propaganda on CNN, pouring yourself another glass of kool-aid while you report to your hire ups about what s great job you're doing fighting from behind the front lines of your keyboard. Keep it up my friend. Someone has to fight the inner-net dissidents right?

I'm glad to see these good people standing up for their rights for medical freedom.

a reply to: Nyiah

When they roll out the gallows and start getting rid of treasonous and corrupt politicians, let me know. I thought this would have been by last week, but it seems peeps are a little slow on the uptake. France is getting close and I think French Revolution version 2.0 is going to get pretty strange. It would be interesting to see Quebec go a little batsh!t crazy as well. It's been a long time since I have seen a head on a pike, a necklacing or a justifiable disembowelment, but time will tell, it's certainly just starting. If history is any indication, it's going to turn seriously ugly before any kind of normalcy appears.

Cheers - Dave

originally posted by: SlapMonkey

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Nyiah

How sad that it comes to this that some idiots on social media push their dangerous opinion and so many have insufficient discernment to realize that anyone can say just about anything on social media and people believe it more than credible sources.

I see some irony in this statement.

The thing that you seem to fail to comprehend is that, here in America, there is still a large number of people who like their freedoms to remain intact. The concept of freedom has been bastardized (over the past century, mostly...the past 50 years, definitely), but some of us still prefer to exercise our first-amendment right to call out for such preservation of freedoms.

And for the record, no, seat belts should not be mandated, educational campaigns against smoking are fine if they're factual (taxing them into oblivion as an effort to force cessation and making it criminal to resell single cigarettes because the state doesn't get their tax money, not so much).

ZERO mandates surrounding COVID are necessary, as you imply. It would appear that you lack clarity of the bigger picture in regard to the preservation of personal freedoms AND the true severity of COVID-19.

And the fact that you make light of a government forcing adults to wear seatbelts shows the degree to which you do not think deeply.

Where do you pin the medals on?


Of course Arlington only has about 400,000 dead.

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut

Here in the states, some value their rights and freedoms.

What is sad is that folks who share your innate need to lord over others and just can't rationalize why someone wouldn't want to be told to do something especially when bereft of credibility.

There in the States, is where it is happening.

Ain't happenin' here, where everyone knows the value of a public health campaign. We are free to choose to not vaccinate, if we want. The government offers it free of charge, but turning up is still voluntary.

And if anyone doesn't toe that line......?

Nothing that I know of. The government here aren't running stupid adverts, or lotteries, or providing any other silly enticements, either.

I mean you only count the ones that fall in line and let's not consider the scale differences between our two countries.

I dunno, I heard that per capita, the USA incarcerates more of its own than any other country in the world.

What makes you think you are free?

You know all those brainwashed North Koreans you see on the TV? LOL. Imagine how those in other countries see things, looking at such tyrannical and authoritarian regimes.

Hint: What this thread is about, is that you are being controlled by an authoritarian government. And all you can do is try and somehow deflect against other governments, which aren't even acting like that!

originally posted by: starshift
a reply to: chr0naut

I always picture you in your pee stained undershorts, watching the latest propaganda on CNN, pouring yourself another glass of kool-aid while you report to your hire ups about what s great job you're doing fighting from behind the front lines of your keyboard. Keep it up my friend. Someone has to fight the inner-net dissidents right?

I'm glad to see these good people standing up for their rights for medical freedom.

You can't even comprehend how someone in another country must act and react except by comparison with the US.

Hint, we don't really have either CNN, or Fox (I usually listen to RNZ and read the New Zealand Herald, and Stuff.co.nz for news). We have different brands of cordials such as Raro (I don't even think Kool-Aid is on the shelves in our supermarkets].

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And the thing you seem to have totally missed is, we DO have the freedom of choice that the US currently doesn't.

LOL

a reply to: chr0naut

Nothing that you know of? Your first forray into the thread you note how they must be uneducated or gullible. IE, a subclass of human from your perspective. This is how authoritarians think.

The fact that there is a protest lends itself to a degree of freedom. However this part is off topic

originally posted by: Reality2021
a reply to: chr0naut

Just like the vaccine nobody is mandated to wear a seatbelt. They made a LAW to require it but still no one mandates it, you might get a ticket but the odds are low on that as too many police are busy chasing down people not following a mandate that people wear a mask.

Or too many police have simply quit because when they enforce real laws that people violate like burning down buildings or murder the prosecutor just lets them go. But a mandate gets enforced, laws they just mandate them out of existence

Of course, government mandates don't have the force of law. What was I thinking?

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut

Nothing that you know of? Your first forray into the thread you note how they must be uneducated or gullible. IE, a subclass of human from your perspective. This is how authoritarians think.

Stop trying to guess how I might think. LOL.

The fact that there is a protest lends itself to a degree of freedom. However this part is off topic

Like if someone hits you, and you go "ow, stop that", that makes things better?

Protest only gives you freedom if it is acknowledged and affirmative change comes of it.

a reply to: chr0naut

I don't have to guess, there's years of post history!



The ability to protest isn't solely based upon one direct reaction.

Curious how “my body, my choice” falls on deaf ears regarding this vaccine.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut

I don't have to guess, there's years of post history!

The ability to protest isn't solely based upon one direct reaction.

Of course I have stated how I think, and what I believe. But you can't trust that, can you?

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut

I don't have to guess, there's years of post history!

The ability to protest isn't solely based upon one direct reaction.

No but personal freedom and self-actualization is.

Any idiot can complain. It doesn't make them free. Nor does blaming achieve anything practical.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Sublimecraft

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Nyiah

How sad that it comes to this that some idiots on social media push their dangerous opinion and so many have insufficient discernment to realize that anyone can say just about anything on social media and people believe it more than credible sources.

Thankfully, there are places and people where they are educated and rational, and a mandate is not necessary.

Your credible sources are propaganda - simple, you do not get to decide what is and is not credible - do YOU understand this simple concept?? - thankfully there are places and people where they are educated and lateral thinkers such that FORCING people to take a vaccine leads to authoritarianism.

I know. Look at how we were all enslaved by having to wear seatbelts! Oh, the humanity! Think of the... the... the... children...... .

I know I wear my seatbelt for someone else’s safety not mine

originally posted by: SlapMonkey

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Nyiah

How sad that it comes to this that some idiots on social media push their dangerous opinion and so many have insufficient discernment to realize that anyone can say just about anything on social media and people believe it more than credible sources.

I see some irony in this statement.

The thing that you seem to fail to comprehend is that, here in America, there is still a large number of people who like their freedoms to remain intact. The concept of freedom has been bastardized (over the past century, mostly...the past 50 years, definitely), but some of us still prefer to exercise our first-amendment right to call out for such preservation of freedoms.

And for the record, no, seat belts should not be mandated, educational campaigns against smoking are fine if they're factual (taxing them into oblivion as an effort to force cessation and making it criminal to resell single cigarettes because the state doesn't get their tax money, not so much).

ZERO mandates surrounding COVID are necessary, as you imply. It would appear that you lack clarity of the bigger picture in regard to the preservation of personal freedoms AND the true severity of COVID-19.

And the fact that you make light of a government forcing adults to wear seatbelts shows the degree to which you do not think deeply.

You make a compelling case as someone solid to drink a beer with