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Why Vaccines Should Be Compulsory

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posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 07:24 PM
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Not my title, the title of the article from the Japan Times. MIM, your street talk here would be appreciated.

An article from the Japan Times advocating why mandatory vaccinations are not taking freedoms away, they are in fact, freedom.

For those that have read the rather insightful novel written close to 70 years ago now by a man named George Orwell

'War is Peace,
Freedom is slavery,
Ignorance is strength.'


www.japantimes.co.jp...

The site has an annoying sign up for free to keep reading popup. Usual paywall/signup workarounds don't seem to work.

Here's an archive link, ATS doesn't play nice with them though(new owners who so kindly brought us https....) I suggest copying and pasting the link if need be.:

web.archive.org...://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2021/08/05/commentary/world-commentary/compulsory-vaccinations/


Mandatory vaccination laws may be restricting one kind of freedom, but they are doing so in order to protect others to go about their business safely

I’m writing from Victoria, the Australian state that became, in 1970, the first jurisdiction in the world to make it compulsory to wear a seat belt in a car. The legislation was attacked as a violation of individual freedom, but Victorians accepted it because it saved lives. Now most of the world has similar legislation. I can’t recall when I last heard someone demanding the freedom to drive without wearing a seat belt.

Instead, we are now hearing demands for the freedom to be unvaccinated against the virus that causes COVID-19. Brady Ellison, a member of the United States Olympic archery team, says his decision not to get vaccinated was “one hundred percent a personal choice,” insisting that “anyone that says otherwise is taking away people’s freedoms.”


This next part made me laugh....


The oddity, here, is that laws requiring us to wear seat belts really are quite straightforwardly infringing on freedom, whereas laws requiring people to be vaccinated if they are going to be in places where they could infect other people are restricting one kind of freedom in order to protect the freedom of others to go about their business safely.


Yes that's right, mandatory vaccinations are akin to mandatory seatbelt laws. Yes....this person is trying to compare being forced to wear a cloth strap over your shoulders and waist that stops you from physically flying through the windshield of your car to being forced to have an experimental rushed novel medical treatment, with known and unknown side effects injected into your body.

As far as I know, the number 1 side effect from wearing a seat belt is, some chafing.

In my age group, the major side effect from the vaccine is myocarditis.


The reason is that we are not good at protecting ourselves against very small risks of disaster. Each time we get into a car, the chance that we will be involved in an accident serious enough to cause injury, if we are not wearing a seat belt, is very small. Nevertheless, given the negligible cost of wearing a belt, a reasonable calculation of one’s own interests shows that it is irrational not to wear one. Car crash survivors who were injured because they were not wearing seat belts recognize and regret their irrationality — but only when it is too late, as it always is for those who were killed while sitting on their belts.

We are now seeing a very similar situation with vaccination.

The same reason justifies making vaccination against COVID-19 compulsory; otherwise, too many people make decisions that they later regret. One would have to be monstrously callous to say: “It’s their own fault, let them die.”

In any case, in the COVID-19 era, making vaccination compulsory doesn’t violate Mill’s “harm to others”


That's right, it's justified to force you to take an experimental treatment with unknown, and known negative consequences because you might regret not getting it later and it's cool, forcing you to inject an experimental substance inside you doesn't 'violate Mill’s “harm to others” ' because you may regret it if you don't get it, so better make it compulsory.


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posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: dug88

*shakes head*

As someone who asked for the jab and was denied by my doctor because of my reactions it baffles me how societies have so easily shifted to an authoritarian model.



posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 07:37 PM
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a reply to: dug88


LOL equating seatbelts to vaccines!

Maybe people would still be adamant about not wearing a restraining device while driving if said device was inserted in your body like a vaccine.

Maybe a butt anchor that you sit on


Now that would be invasive much like a vaccine.

Thanks for the article dug! Shows their stupidity and the stupidity of those who buy into this comparison.



posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: NorthOfStuff
a reply to: dug88


LOL equating seatbelts to vaccine!



That's nothing, our dipsh!t governor here in Cali says we're the same as drunk drivers..




posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 07:48 PM
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Where most people would think nothing of it

It’s certainly interesting Japan is doing it also now after that nuclear attack threat

But where I would draw a conclusion would be something many of us don’t really know

What’s CCP rhetoric saying? At what population % is China and Russia vaccinated?

Does the real fin begin when country near 80% vaccinated? Which is herd immunity levels?

And then the warhead is loaded onto the icbm in the form of a airdropped infected dead body lol

Jokes aside

Could be cloud be



posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 07:51 PM
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The Flu vaxs arent even Compulsory so why should Covid if they are going to be treating it like a flu?



posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 07:52 PM
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a reply to: underpass61

The fact that a Politician is comparing the un vaccinated to drunk drivers is taking it to a new low.
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posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 07:52 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: dug88

*shakes head*

As someone who asked for the jab and was denied by my doctor because of my reactions it baffles me how societies have so easily shifted to an authoritarian model.


I was fairly young when the helmet and seatbelt law arrived in Canada. My dad explained to me how this was a result of creeping socialism.

Every socialist program that gives something to people takes away freedoms in order to sustain itself.

Healthcare costs money and treating people who don’t use safety devices is expensive. This is how they justify these laws that demand safety devices.

I think countries have been creeping to this authoritarian model for a long time.

We have reached a point of near no return once the evil aspects of socialism begin to be recognized by the masses.



posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 07:54 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Probably because somebody is pushing these things... And heavily and they do not care if a majority or later on have reactions to it.



posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 07:56 PM
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The notion of compulsory vaccines for the public in general is a massive legal minefield of course, but moreover it's unlawful until full licensing is attained - at least as far as most civilised countries are concerned.

Vaccines under Emergency use, by definition, have not been subjected to the same safety analyses and data as those seeking full licensing approval. Which shouldn't surprise anyone, but one major factor that impedes swift licensing is the need to monitor clinical trials (in this case the entire world until at least early-2023) for signs of Antibody-Dependent Enhancement (ADE) which can cause significantly more severe illness then normal if a vaccinated person's antibodies start to wane whilst infected with the virus.



Here is a sober, useful expert study of the problem - I deliberately chose a report from 2006 so that it's clean and not 'contaminated' by the aura of Covid-19 (or Swine Flu etc)...

www.tandfonline.com...



posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: dug88

I feel like I'm repeating myself.....

They've been conditioned so well that they hear "unvaccinated" but believe "infected".

It's like hypnosis or something.



posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 07:57 PM
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I am not equating seat belt laws with vaccines, but seat belt laws were the minimally invasive beginning of the assault on our freedoms. A seat belt only helps the one wearing it, and it should be a matter of personal choice whether they are worn or not.
In the old days, the infected were quarantined, not the healthy.
Now they make a vaccine that makes bodies brew pots for new strains.



posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 08:08 PM
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The population of the world needs to keep their eye on the big picture.

1.) Vaccine-induced immunity begins to wane after 6 months.

www.cnbc.com...

2.) To keep your vaccine passport "current" and to alleviate your fear, a Covid-19 "booster" will be needed every 6 to 8 months.

3.) The HUGE long-term revenue stream is what Pharmaceuticals have/are designed.

4.) The ability to affect and manipulate the Freedoms of billions of citizens all over the world is what Governments, Media, and some Corporations get from the Scheme.



posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 08:10 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: dug88

*shakes head*

As someone who asked for the jab and was denied by my doctor because of my reactions it baffles me how societies have so easily shifted to an authoritarian model.

But DB, think of all the benefits an authoritarian model offers...

No responsibility.
No accountability.
No decisions to make.
No need to think for yourself.
No need to let those pesky facts get in the way.
Everything is always someone else's fault.
All you have to do is obey.

Easy peasy.
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posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: butcherguy
I am not equating seat belt laws with vaccines, but seat belt laws were the minimally invasive beginning of the assault on our freedoms. A seat belt only helps the one wearing it, and it should be a matter of personal choice whether they are worn or not.
In the old days, the infected were quarantined, not the healthy.
Now they make a vaccine that makes bodies brew pots for new strains.


I would also add that the vaccine for covid (and influenza flu) are NOT the same as for polo and small pox as some also like to claim

the small pox and polio vaccine were developed as a way to STOP one from contracting those viruses..
since those viruses dont mutate the same way (unless weaponized like small pox and some small disturbing signs of few people getting polio like illness) so they could be eradicated.

where i must respectfully disagree with you is that the vaccine is making our bodies cause new strains.

the corrona family of viruses (which covid comes from) and its cousin influenza family of viruses (where common flu comes from) have been mutating for THOUSANDS OF YEARS...

mutations come from not only people/animals bodies developing immunity but from just natural mutations.
how fast and to what level (up or down) of infection/lethality/symptoms/damage is not constant nor easily predicted.

hell the influenza virus has (depending on what parts combine with what) is in the hundreds of thousands of sub types .

why should covid be any different

all vaccines do is add another variable to their mutations

what i will do is modify your comment to say that vaccines are another factor in how virus mutate to stay alive (as any organism does) and we should ask this question.

is the vaccine overall doing more harm (in the mutations) that good vs letting it run its course with natural immunity.
should be more concentrate on treatments to help the body defend itself and reserve the vaccine for LIMITED and TARGETED application to the most vulnerable/ threatened.

so we dont have the situation like the rapidly evolving antibiotic resistant bacteria.

scrounger



posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 08:24 PM
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a reply to: scrounger

Yup. This whole mutation, comparison to other vaccine deflection bull# is just that bull#.

Viruses are not all one in the same. There are millions if not billions of different kinds of viruses out there that fall into a huge variety of classes. comparing totally unrelated viruses and vaccines, or in the case of some pro-vax people, bacteria and viruses is ridiculous.

Different kinds of viruses mutate in different ways, they infect in different ways and operate totally differently. Treatment that works for one kind of virus is not in any way guaranteed to work on other kinds of viruses.

I learned that # in Grade 12 biology. That's # a literal teenager should know, but society seems to have regressed or some #.



posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 08:24 PM
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a reply to: dug88

Do You Want To Kill My Children !!!!!!


I heard that was the new talking point that went out. Expect to hear it all over soon.



posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 08:27 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

You must be old as # to have 90 year old diabetic children.
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posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 08:37 PM
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a reply to: dug88

Imagine a world where everyone grows an extra pair of legs because of the C-Vaxx...

soon two legs baaa-d...

Four legs good, two legs bad. -- George Orwell



posted on Aug, 5 2021 @ 08:48 PM
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a reply to: dug88

Did not Japan used to be a communist imperialism? well maybe they want to bring communism back.



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