The USA Covid-19 Epidemic will End After Most Have Been Infected - Reinfections are Very Rare.

originally posted by: sciencelol
Vaccine side effects are very rare. But still no where near as rare as reinfections.
So why would anyone take the shot after getting the vid?

Reinfections are so rare, the CDC won't even study them, despite promising to do so way back in October 2020.

Even the World Health Organization changed its wording from Natural Immunity to Vaccine Immunity, when describing what will end the Pandemic world-wide.

originally posted by: Skid Mark
a reply to: carewemust
I'm glad that the same thinking didn't apply to polio and smallpox or we'd still be dealing with them. Get a damn vaccine.

If Covid-19 was lethal enough, there wouldn't need to be advertising, lotteries, and outright extortion, in order to get people vaccinated.

Covid-19 is NOT what will kill 99.7% of those living today.

originally posted by: jefwane
…….Cold and flu season is going to be fun this fall if the immunity reset is more broad than just covid, like people dying from what last year would have been a common cold.

I was vaxxed last Jan. I have been exposed to both the common flu in Mar. (also I was vaxxed for) and strepthroat, just 2 weeks ago. These have been in my family, grandkids, in close contact with me, and were confirmed by testing, since they were also testing for covid, which were all negative.

So I hate to disappoint you in your doom porn fantasy.

originally posted by: Skid Mark
a reply to: carewemust
I'm glad that the same thinking didn't apply to polio and smallpox or we'd still be dealing with them. Get a damn vaccine.

The Polio vaccine was tested for a year (with test subjects) before it was widely administered. The Smallpox vaccine was studied for years and tested for years before it was widely administered. The Covid-19 vaccine wasn't tested at all. It was widely administered after it was rushed and then the government pushed it feverishly and begged people to get it, even bribing people by offering drugs, alcohol, and cash to anyone who gets it. The fact that the government is going all out in an act that looks like they care about you should have been a red flag from the very beginning.

Either way, I can see you've probably had the vaccine because your aggression started coming out.

originally posted by: carewemust

The greatest long-term peace-of-mind comes with recovering from Covid-19. There is no need to take these potentially dangerous non-approved vaccine drugs.

Honestly, I'm at peace with the idea that even though I don't know that I've ever had it, I think there's a pretty decent chance that I probably already have. It's hard telling how many millions of people have had it, but didn't realize it. Both vaccinated and unvaccinated folks.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

The greatest long-term peace-of-mind comes with recovering from Covid-19. There is no need to take these potentially dangerous non-approved vaccine drugs.

This could have all been taken care of and no occurring lockdowns if people who got sick would have been treated with hydroxychloroquine as suggested by health officials back in 2020. But Trump took the advice of health officials over the CDC so the media and DC made it out to be a bad deal and wouldn't let it pass. Treating the coronavirus with hydroxychloroquine would have worked just like a zeepack is used to treat influenza. But hey, Trump suggested it and we can't have that.

originally posted by: BrujaRebooted

originally posted by: jefwane
…….Cold and flu season is going to be fun this fall if the immunity reset is more broad than just covid, like people dying from what last year would have been a common cold.

I was vaxxed last Jan. I have been exposed to both the common flu in Mar. (also I was vaxxed for) and strepthroat, just 2 weeks ago. These have been in my family, grandkids, in close contact with me, and were confirmed by testing, since they were also testing for covid, which were all negative.

So I hate to disappoint you in your doom porn fantasy.

Meh. I haven't had a flu shot since grade school in the mid 80's. I've been more than exposed to the flu, strep throat, and coronavirus many times and never caught any of it. If you have a weak immune system or underlying problems then the corona shot and flu shot are probably a good option to consider, but when you're immune to all of those viruses, you shouldn't be required to get it, nor should you be forced. Throughout 2020 while the medical field was running around in body condoms, I was working and grocery shopping, etc. without a mask, gloves, or a face shield and never caught any viruses. I refuse to take a vaccine when my body has shown immunity to the coronavirus since its creation. Besides, most vaccinated people wish us un-vaxxed would die anyways so why do they even care if we get the vaccination?

Now this !! WHAT? 🤓


WHO Seeks COVID-19 Booster Shot Moratorium So Other Countries Can Catch Up

originally posted by: PurpleFox
a reply to: Skid Markas far as we know polio and smallpox weren’t made in a lab for political purposes.

Also, I’m sure those vaccines went through strict safety measures and and weren’t produced in record time.

I will not but thanks anyways.

Not all the strict

In April 1955 more than 200 000 children in five Western and mid-Western USA states received a polio vaccine in which the process of inactivating the live virus proved to be defective. Within days there were reports of paralysis and within a month the first mass vaccination programme against polio had to be abandoned. 

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

a reply to: carewemust

Even the World Health Organization changed its wording from Natural Immunity to Vaccine Immunity,

I am immune to the vaccine due to natural immunity .
I JUST SAY NO .

a reply to: carewemust

Isn't it funny how the human body almost seems designed to handle things like this just fine on its own?

I don't understand it--many of the same people who argue that if you don't have the human-created vaccine you have no protections are the same people who bitch and moan about the unintended consequences of human meddling and how it leads to things like global warming, nuclear disasters, environmental polution, and the like.

But, you know, THIS time, human know better than nature. THIS time it will be right.

I'm not saying that all human intervention is bad and that SOME vaccines haven't done good things, but for the HUGE majority of human beings, this vaccination is unnecessary, and as time ticks by, it seems to be proving to be less effective than naturally derived immunity to COVID-19. Hell, it's not even doing a great job of stopping fully vaccinated people from spreading the virus now.

A thinking person might look at the situation and ponder the possibility that the virus is prolonging the prevalence of the disease, not diminishing it, at this point.

a reply to: carewemust

You know when this covid crap came to be and it was not even the sign of a china virus jab, I kept telling everybody that were been scamongered to dead, to stop worrying and this been a cold it would infect all, just to make sure they took care of their health.

Then the jab came to be because Pharma can not let a good moment go to waste without making profits.

But I always said, this will infect us and life will go on.

Do I believe that the jabs help? with all the evidence after Israel tested the moderna and Pfizer, I am very confident that it did not.

They made the situation worst when people ran to get the jab and then felt they were invincible.

Just like those on big pharma miracle treatments that believe that if they take medications for hart disease, cholesterol and others they can still do what they do and everything will be alright

Maybe Americans will learn the lesson, get out, exercises, watch your diet and lose weight if you have a bit of too much on your waist.

Best medicine ever.

Americans depend on big pharma too much

originally posted by: BrokenCircles

originally posted by: carewemust

The greatest long-term peace-of-mind comes with recovering from Covid-19. There is no need to take these potentially dangerous non-approved vaccine drugs.

Honestly, I'm at peace with the idea that even though I don't know that I've ever had it, I think there's a pretty decent chance that I probably already have. It's hard telling how many millions of people have had it, but didn't realize it. Both vaccinated and unvaccinated folks.

This exactly! I've had colds before and, thanks to my healthy immune system, survived. I'm 100% ok with winging it.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: BrujaRebooted

originally posted by: jefwane
…….Cold and flu season is going to be fun this fall if the immunity reset is more broad than just covid, like people dying from what last year would have been a common cold.

I was vaxxed last Jan. I have been exposed to both the common flu in Mar. (also I was vaxxed for) and strepthroat, just 2 weeks ago. These have been in my family, grandkids, in close contact with me, and were confirmed by testing, since they were also testing for covid, which were all negative.

So I hate to disappoint you in your doom porn fantasy.

Meh. I haven't had a flu shot since grade school in the mid 80's. I've been more than exposed to the flu, strep throat, and coronavirus many times and never caught any of it. If you have a weak immune system or underlying problems then the corona shot and flu shot are probably a good option to consider, but when you're immune to all of those viruses, you shouldn't be required to get it, nor should you be forced. Throughout 2020 while the medical field was running around in body condoms, I was working and grocery shopping, etc. without a mask, gloves, or a face shield and never caught any viruses. I refuse to take a vaccine when my body has shown immunity to the coronavirus since its creation. Besides, most vaccinated people wish us un-vaxxed would die anyways so why do they even care if we get the vaccination?

When I was younger, I didnt vax either. Im 65 and comorbid. I was responding to the doom porn purveyor that suggested the covid vax destroyed my immune system and I will die of a cold this winter. So far so good.

Ive never suggested a vax for anyone else. Its a personal decision. I dont support mandates and dont worry if you arent vaxed.

Pisses me off that unvaxed keep telling me Im gonna suffer and die any minute now.

Looks like TPTB have found another way to slice and dice us and keep us fighting each other instead of them. seems you fell for it.

originally posted by: Skid Mark
a reply to: carewemust
I'm glad that the same thinking didn't apply to polio and smallpox or we'd still be dealing with them. Get a damn vaccine.

Well, someone is triggered.

So, here's where your comparison is absolutely silly and needs called out. You are comparing SARS-CoV-2 to Polio, which had a mortality rate of double digits in adolescents and adults (15-30%, according to the CDC) and could cause paralysis, and also to smallpox, with a mortality rate of 30% for the most severe version of the disease (according to the CDC).

COVID-19 has a mortality rate that, at this point, is claimed to be between 1-2%, depending on the source and numbers used, and age group (my age group has a mortality rate of 0.5%...also known as a survivability rate of 99.5%). And that number will continue to fall as time goes on and a better assessment of the myriad cases that were never recorded into the books comes to light (and higher infection rate but death numbers that stay the same [or end up going down due to mis-catagorization] leads to a lower mortality rate).

You are comparing apples and oranges. Diseases like Polio and Smallpox should have vaccines, because they are highly deadly and/or cause extreme permanent disabilities. And they do have vaccines that were properly tested before pushing on the general public. SARS-CoV-2 is not that type of disease, and the vast majority of people who contract it continue on with life just fine (including myself).

So, you can be scared, you can get the experimental vaccine, and you can live your life how you want, but don't tell anyone else what to do.

originally posted by: carewemust

1.) MASKS- July 2020 CDC study found 83% of those hospitalized with Covid-19 wore masks most or all of the time per CDC guidelines. Dr. Fauci's department said even N-95 masks don't stop H1N1 viruses.

But but without masks it would be 84%!!! I think two masks would lower it to 82% so that is a good direction...

2.) VACCINES- The current crop of USA Vaccines "slow the spread", but that merely prolongs the Epidemic.
Source: www.nbcnews.com...

If we go back to the beginning it was all about not overwhelming the medical system, and not so much about the infection rate. If the vaccine helps prevent serious reactions then it works as that would keep the ICU numbers down as we push finally to herd immunity. A big part of that is opening all schools as that would push 100 million extreme low risk toward herd immunity and with mom and pops at home vaccinated we are all good.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

So both previous infection and vaccination yield rare breakthrough infections per your source.

So who cares, join the other million viruses that can get into us. Hell two weeks ago I had 3 days I felt tired, had a little cough when I talked and my joints kind of ached, nothing new there....

originally posted by: jefwane
I know a couple of people who had covid, got vaccinated and now have covid again. I think there may be some data starting to show that the shot might reset any previous immunities.

What do they do swap spit as a greeting? lol

If it wasn't a big deal then the vaccine did its job too. I'm not saying you need both, but if the vaccine keeps someone out of the hospital then it worked.

originally posted by: PurpleFox
a reply to: Skid Markas far as we know polio and smallpox weren’t made in a lab for political purposes.

So is the virus Democrat or Republican based... Asking for a friend...