Covid - doctors unite - alarming signals

a reply to: zardust

Dumb as a post with a degree and HND plus have the luxury of having had COVID 19.

Also fully vaccinated and doing just fine ta very much. x

My reasoning was sound as a pound.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Cheers OtherSideOfTheCoin.

How you keeping yourself these days?

originally posted by: flice

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: andy06shake

Quick question before wasting 2 hours of my life, what kind of doctors are they?

Well i looked up the first one on the list Dolores Cahill who is honestly a professor of medicine at the University College of Dublin. She was also the chairperson for the right-wing Irish Freedom Party and after she made her comments about Covid even they thought they where so bonkers that she was politly asked to stepdown and she was asked to step down from various other posistions. Basically she made a bunch of basless claims and the rest of the accademics laughed at her.

Dr Ryan Cole is a dermatologist.....skin doctor, hardly an internationally renowed expert on viruses

Dr Richard Fleming

(1) Has been convicted of a felony that involves bribery, payment of illegal gratuities, fraud, perjury, false statement, racketeering, blackmail, extortion, falsification or destruction of records, or interference with, obstruction of an investigation into, or prosecution of, any criminal offense and (2) based on the conviction and other information, the individual has demonstrated a pattern of conduct sufficient to find that there is reason to believe that the person may violate requirements under the FD&C Act relating to drug products.

On April 24, 2009, Fleming, the president of, and sole physician at, Fleming Heart and Health Institute, P.C. (FHHI), pled guilty to one felony count of healthcare fraud, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1347 and 2, and one felony count of mail fraud, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1341 and 2. On August 20, 2009, the U.S. District Court for the District of Nebraska entered a judgment of conviction against Fleming on these counts and sentenced Fleming to 5 years of probation.

Dr Peter McCullough, just a name a didn't need to google, he was the nutter i think who claimed that the vaccine was a bio-weapon that was killing thousands of Americans

Dr Joseph Mercola, a man the New York Times has described as the most influencial spreader of covid missinformation

Dr Lee Merritt, Ortho doctor again hardly an expert on virology she spends her days with a mallet and drill fixing hips and broken bones.

Dr Sherri Tenpenny, this one made me laugh, this lady claimed that the vaccine was magnatising people....

Richard Urso....he's an eye doctor....

Dr Sam White, susspended by NHS england.

Dr Vladimir Zelenko, a Family doctor whose been under investigation over some of his methods for treating Covid.

Basically....

All of these people hold or have held mecial degrees and licences to practice, there was one or two who i couldn't find any information on but of the ones I could find info on they've all been discredited in some way. They also all seem to be part of the America's frontline Doctors group which is basically a machine for pumping out covid misinformation.

Its also intersting to note that many of them, if not all of them do not specialise in relievent feilds of medicine. Something i don't know if people who don't work in healthcare perhpase fully appreciate is the monumental differance in a dermatologist and a Intensivist for example. The people who we should be listening to are the virologists, resperitory doctors, the ICU doctors and the ID guys, not the guy that fixes grannys legs.

Speaking to a ortho doc for expert advice on Covid is a bit like going to a plumber for advice on getting your computer fixed.

So yeah....saved you two hours.

Let me render your entire post ignorant with one quote:

twelve years

A minimum of twelve years of training and education is typically required in order to become a dermatologist in the United States and other western countries. This includes an undergraduate pre-medical degree, general medical training, internship and dermatology specialization training.

You see, covid and covid vaccine is not just about the virus part, its also about the visible changes that occur in the individuals body and the increase in rapports about specific illnesses AFTER they rolled out the vaccines.

You want to look at one set of data and assume an opinion, but then disregard the data that shows something is off.... thats plain stupid and biased.

a reply to: flice

Yup 12 years learing all about how to manage dematological conditions, its quite complicated because there are so many off them. Its highly specalised, very focused on....dermatology.

Its got sweet FA to do with how to care for critically ill patients with COVID-19 or other respiratory viruses.

To become an intensivist it takes 5 years of mecial school followed up by about 8-10 years of further training I wouldn't go to one of them though if i had a problem with my eczeme just like i wouldn't nip down to the dermatologists office to ask if he wants me to swich the Covid patient froom CPAP to SMV on the vent.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Here is two you missed out:

Dr Tess Lawrie.
Groundbreaking new Covid treatment recommended by Bath scientist - Somerset Live
www.somersetlive.co.uk...

Dr Li-Meng Yan.
Li-Meng Yan or Yan Limeng is a Chinese virologist, known for publications and interviews alleging that SARS-CoV-2 was made in a Chinese government laboratory. These publications have been widely criticised by the scientific community. In April 2020, she fled to the United States. Wikipedia

a reply to: Flatcoat

Sorry for your loss Flatcoat.

My dad has stage 3 lung cancer so i can identify with your plight.

Still fully vaccinated and still kicking all the same.

The vaccines are a choice Flatcoat, free to be made should you feel the need to do so.

COVID 19 is not crap Flatcoat, my Mrs was really bad, scary would be how i would put it.

a reply to: zardust

Robert Malone the inventor of MRNA shots.

No he didn't. If you can't even get that correct how do you expect people to believe the rest of the tripe.

Malone reached out to Logically, stating that he did not invent the mRNA vaccines, but instead the "vaccine technology platform." He also presented us with copies of nine patents – none of which showed that he invented the mRNA vaccines. The judgment for the claim has not changed

www.logically.ai...

This is who takes the credit.Katalin Karikó.

How a scientist's unwavering belief in mRNA gave the world a Covid-19 vaccine

www.telegraph.co.uk...

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Cheers OtherSideOfTheCoin.

How you keeping yourself these days?

Yeah am good man, first time i have logged in to ATS in almost 6 months, honestly mate i would highly recomend just chilling out in a new corner of the internet.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: flice

Yup 12 years learing all about how to manage dematological conditions, its quite complicated because there are so many off them. Its highly specalised, very focused on....dermatology.

Its got sweet FA to do with how to care for critically ill patients with COVID-19 or other respiratory viruses.

To become an intensivist it takes 5 years of mecial school followed up by about 8-10 years of further training I wouldn't go to one of them though if i had a problem with my eczeme just like i wouldn't nip down to the dermatologists office to ask if he wants me to swich the Covid patient froom CPAP to SMV on the vent.

Are you that thick? Ofcourse its not 12 years studying skin... you dumb #, it even says.

You what, people like you needs to be silenced by being ignored.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

missed one lol

originally posted by: flice

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: flice

Yup 12 years learing all about how to manage dematological conditions, its quite complicated because there are so many off them. Its highly specalised, very focused on....dermatology.

Its got sweet FA to do with how to care for critically ill patients with COVID-19 or other respiratory viruses.

To become an intensivist it takes 5 years of mecial school followed up by about 8-10 years of further training I wouldn't go to one of them though if i had a problem with my eczeme just like i wouldn't nip down to the dermatologists office to ask if he wants me to swich the Covid patient froom CPAP to SMV on the vent.

Are you that thick? Ofcourse its not 12 years studying skin... you dumb #, it even says.

You what, people like you needs to be silenced by being ignored.

awwww shucks am getting all nostalgic.

This place never changes, looses the argument so resorts to the petty name calling.

I don't know what to tell you man, but if you ever land yoruself in ICU be sure to tell the intesivist to piss off and demand the dermatologist looks after you....

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Good good mate, glad you are still plodding along just fine.

I dont think it matters where one travels online in this day of age with all the nonsensical palaver that surrounds COVID 19 and vaccines.

But I'm up for recommendations, anywhere in mind?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Good, good mate, glad you are still plodding along just fine.

I dont think it matters where one travels online in this day of age with all the nonsensical palaver that surrounds COVID 19 and vaccines.

But I'm up for recommendations, anywhere in mind?

To be hoenst i have basically cut myself off from all social media, so much happier for it, i still write but got involved in some acccademic stuff thats way more fufilling than spending my time online trying to explain to someone the differance between a plumber and a sparkie.

a reply to: andy06shake

Yeah you prefer to listen to doctor Bill Gates because hes had so much experience with virus’s on his Microsoft platform...

a reply to: andy06shake

How's life treating you, this place seems pretty much the exact same.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Im ok, been enjoying the summer sunshine last few weeks if im honest.

ATS is ATS, been this way for quite the while, probably not going to change anytime soon.

We have a new owner all the same from the UK, so change might be in the wind at some point.

But im not holding my breath, mask or otherwise. LoL

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: zardust

It matters quite a bit.

You see i would not employ a joiner to fix my gas boiler even if he has a basic understanding of how it functions.

What about the fact that the vaccines work and do what it say on the tin?

Science is important and the only tool we have at our disposable that will allow us to attempt to understand the universe and reality we experience.

So im taking it these so-called doctors are not immunologists nor virologists then?

Imagine that. LoL

Bill gates & commie WHO chief

vs

Professor Dolores Cahill
Dr Ryan Cole
Dr Richard Fleming
Dr Dmitry Kats
Dr Tess Lawrie
Dr Li-Meng Yan
Dr Robert Malone
Dr Peter McCullough
Dr Joseph Mercola
Dr Lee Merritt
Dr Sherri Tenpenny
Dr Richard Urso
Dr Sam White
Dr Vladimir Zelenko

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: flice

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: flice

Yup 12 years learing all about how to manage dematological conditions, its quite complicated because there are so many off them. Its highly specalised, very focused on....dermatology.

Its got sweet FA to do with how to care for critically ill patients with COVID-19 or other respiratory viruses.

To become an intensivist it takes 5 years of mecial school followed up by about 8-10 years of further training I wouldn't go to one of them though if i had a problem with my eczeme just like i wouldn't nip down to the dermatologists office to ask if he wants me to swich the Covid patient froom CPAP to SMV on the vent.

Are you that thick? Ofcourse its not 12 years studying skin... you dumb #, it even says.

You what, people like you needs to be silenced by being ignored.

awwww shucks am getting all nostalgic.

This place never changes, looses the argument so resorts to the petty name calling.

I don't know what to tell you man, but if you ever land yoruself in ICU be sure to tell the intesivist to piss off and demand the dermatologist looks after you....

I didnt lose anything. You on the other hand failed to adress me pointing out you didnt understand that dermatologists dont study skin for 12 years.

a reply to: surfer_soul

Bill gates is not a Doctor but a Software Developer at heart, or to begin with, so there is that.

As to Windows well i have to agree its got issues, even the 11, imagine that. LoL