The great evil of sanctions

Where to start.
When a country or leader is considered evil/bad in the eyes of the US (those in power) or is competition they start with sanctions (&with the help of her allies) which can be so bad that a whole country, it's people experience poverty, starvation and even death. The hit country in many cases are not allowed to sell or buy on the international market and other country's & her company's must follow as well where they ain't allowed to sell or buy at that sanctioned country. When they don't follow these sanctions they can be fined, threatened or also face sanctions.

It's hard to know how many, because of in my eyes of this great evil became poor, starve and died, but it are millions, many many millions for sure.

Just a list: Afghanistan, Belarus, Burundi, Central African Republic, China (PR), Côte d'Ivoire, Crimea Region, Cuba, Cyprus, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Eritrea, Haiti, Iran, Iraq, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Myanmar, North Korea, Palestinian Territories, Russia, Rwanda, Somalia, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Syria, Venezuela, Yemen, Zimbabwe.

And with those sanctions their hope often is, like right now in Cuba that the people rise up against their 'evil' leaders because of poverty and starvation & death with the great weapon of sanctions where they can't sell or buy and other country's again are also not allowed to sell or buy at Cuba.

Just another example right now in Syria:

The sanctions specifically target the energy and construction sectors, making it difficult for the country to rebuild after 11 years of war and exacerbating the humanitarian crisis. According to the UN, the number of Syrians that are close to starvation is at 12.4 million, or 60 percent of the population.

Note; even food and medicines are often sanctioned like they did against ''evil'' Iraq before starting war(s) at Iraq where also millions became poor, starve, died and fleed their country.
Just look how many people came to Europe and other country's from the Middle East which where hit with sanctions and war.

The number of people becoming poor, starve, die and flee their country's because all of these sanctions is for surely mind boggling and I don't know how many millions (could be in in the hundreds even). And these sanction practices became normal and used as a weapon more and more and you don't hear much about in the media against this great evil, because I have no other word for that.

It even sounds like something from the Bible:

''And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name''.

a reply to: Pluginn

So the US should be forced to trade with it's enemies? LOL. Thanks for the laugh.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Forced? who forced who exactly again? Like a country's/company in Europe does business with a US 'enemy' they get fines or also sanctions as well and Europe is considered a friend of the US.
Of course the US has an endless list of enemy's because of her own hostile actions.

a reply to: Pluginn

Why can't the countries that don't have sanctions against Cuba (et al) just pony up more cash and supplies?

a reply to: Pluginn

Trade is a weapon. Used by the powerful to oppress the poor and enforce control.

Many countries in the world seek to make free trade agreements between each other. Countries who make no attempt to do so, must be considered belligerent and combative, with no concern for the greater good.

You will know them by their fruits.

a reply to: Pluginn

then they shouldn't have pushed the US to take such actions to protect their own people or ourselves from their actions.

a reply to: DBCowboy


Sure maybe they could and sometimes do. But it would be more like giving free money. They won't get much in return if anything.
When you are poor you can't give much in return, except I guess good friendship/relations.

But like now with Iran, they made a deal with China where China gets oil, they do have something still. Europe can't buy Iranian oil right now or face sanctions/fines.

originally posted by: Pluginn
a reply to: DBCowboy


Sure maybe they could and sometimes do. But it would be more like giving free money. They won't get much in return if anything.
When you are poor you can't give much in return, except I guess good friendship/relations.

*shrugs*

If the US (which many countries hate btw) stops giving money then other countries should pony up.

If the country wasn't giving much back to the US why should I care what other countries get or don't get?

a reply to: Pluginn

iran deserves it for all they've done since the revolution, all the Americans they've killed directly or indirectly, they are lucky they're right next to russia or we would've invaded them years ago for their transgressions over the years, hell even before the religious leadership took over through leading the revolution they and their terrorist allies were killing Americans for years all because their hatred of jews and israel.

a reply to: Pluginn

I think you're ignoring one vital part of the story here. In most cases, like Cuba (which I think is your main focus here), the money from trade bypasses the civilians and ends up in the hands of the dictators. The trade won't actually help the poor citizens much if at all.

originally posted by: namehere
a reply to: Pluginn

iran deserves it for all they've done since the revolution, all the Americans they've killed directly or indirectly, they are lucky they're right next to russia or we would've invaded them years ago for their transgressions over the years.

Sure they maybe killed American occupiers in Iraq if you are referring to that?
The US sold many weapons to Iran before so they could stand up against Iraq and then they where considered as a friend then of course.
The US needs & wants enemy's for their almost only remaining industry left (weapons) and being the biggest arms dealer in the world, bar none.

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Pluginn

I think you're ignoring one vital part of the story here. In most cases, like Cuba (which I think is your main focus here), the money from trade bypasses the civilians and ends up in the hands of the dictators. The trade won't actually help the poor citizens much if at all.

Cuba isn't my main focus, just a recent example, where as you see right now how the US points the finger at Cuba and come up with even harder sanctions (one of the main reasons ppl there protest, when you are poor or even starve you do that!) but they forget their own uprisings in the US from robbing/stealing/protesting where they ain't doing much against!, because they are often black people?, because it would be racism then?? The whole good and bad is so mixed up and #ed up in the US and are so blind or their own evils, it's scary.

Let's not act like if sanctions were lifted those funds would get to the GP. Especially in places like North Korea and Syria among others

originally posted by: putnam6
Let's not act like if sanctions were lifted those funds would get to the GP. Especially in places like North Korea and Syria among others

That's a great point.

It's not the sanctions that have caused poverty and disease, it's the ideology that the government embraces that caused poverty and disease.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Uhmm, like Libya, they had great city's, water for everyone even in a desert, free houses. Now it's only a hell hole and a growing ground of more terrorists and misery. Countless of ppl waged (and still are) their lives on poor boats to Europe from Libya was/is the only option left for many.
And of course that's their own fault because Muammar Gaddafi was the enemy of the US, far away, what business does the US even had there?
Only guess is Israel interest but not sure.

a reply to: Pluginn

*Again shrugs*

Look at their leadership.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Yea, I guess you got much faith in leadership like Biden no?

It's easy to blaim everything on leadership, if I don't like you and I got power and control over you it doesn't matter anyways, I just do as I please. That's what the US leadership is doing on world affairs pretty surely and often the main cause of misery, death.

a reply to: Pluginn

It's political ideology.

Some political ideologies just are bad for regular people.

Read a history book.

originally posted by: Pluginn

Just a list: Afghanistan, Belarus, Burundi, Central African Republic, China (PR), Côte d'Ivoire, Crimea Region, Cuba, Cyprus, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Eritrea, Haiti, Iran, Iraq, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Myanmar, North Korea, Palestinian Territories, Russia, Rwanda, Somalia, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Syria, Venezuela, Yemen, Zimbabwe.

What did all those nations have in common at the time of the sanctions?

None of them had the dollar as reserve currency.

Nations that use the dollar never have sanctions put on them.

Funny that.

a reply to: Pluginn

So those countries cannot trade with anyone else in the World to survive but the USA? lol

So, let me get this straight. Everyone wants the United States of America to be their saviors, but they don't want the United States in any of their business. Ok.

So basically, nobody in the world can survive w/out the United States which truly makes us the Supreme country in the world.