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"...the instruments. . . with which his [Sūrīd's] forefathers had sacrificed to the stars, and also their writings; likewise, the positions of the stars, and their circles..."
originally posted by: keukendeur
a reply to: Scott Creighton
I could very well be I am too dense to understand this stuff but how could a magnetic pole shift make the Orion Belt stars (along with all other stars) appear to slide from one part of the sky to the opposite side of the sky?
It wasn't a physical shift, the sun would still rise in the East etc..
Unless these guys were working with compasses how could one notice a pole shift?
"In the second book of his history, Herodotus relates his conversations with Egyptian priests on his visit to Egypt. . . . The priests asserted that within historical ages and since Egypt became a kingdom, four times in this period (so they told me) the sun rose contrary to his wont; twice he rose where he now sets, and twice he set where he now rises.
"Pomponius Mela, a Latin author of the first century, wrote: “the course of the stars has changed direction four times, and that the sun has set twice in that part of the sky where it rises today.”
"The Magical Papyrus Harris speaks of a cosmic upheaval of fire and water when “the south becomes north, and the Earth turns over.”
"In the Papyrus Ipuwer it is similarly stated that “the land turns round [over] as does a potter’s wheel” and the “Earth turned upside down.”
"Harakhte is the Egyptian name for the western sun. . . . The inscriptions do not leave any room for misunderstanding: “Harakhte, he riseth in the west.”
"The texts found in the pyramids say that the luminary [the sun] “ceased to live in the Occident [the west], and shines, a new one, in the orient [the east].”
"Plato wrote in his dialogue, “The Statesman” (Politicus) “I mean the change in the rising and setting of the sun and the other heavenly bodies, how in those times they used to set in the quarter where they now rise, and used to rise where they now set. . . . At certain periods the universe has its present circular motion, and at other periods it revolves in the reverse direction.”
"According to a short fragment of a historical drama by Sophocles (Atreus), the sun rises in the east is only since its course was reversed. “Zeus . . . changed the course of the sun, causing it to rise in the east and not in the west.”
"Caius Julius Solinus, a Latin author of the third century of the present era, wrote of the people living on the southern borders of Egypt: “The inhabitants of this country say that they have it from their ancestors that the sun now sets where it formerly rose.”
“The Chinese say that it is only since a new order of things has come about that the stars move from east to west. . . . The signs of the Chinese zodiac have the strange peculiarity of proceeding in a retrograde direction, that is, against the course of the sun.”
"In Tractate Sanhedrin of the Talmud it is said: “Seven days before the deluge, the Holy One changed the primeval order and the sun rose in the west and set in the east.”
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: Scott Creighton
So out of curiosity, since the dates are relatively close to the accepted date of the Younger Dryas event, could it be that whatever may have struck the earth at that time allowed it to physically shift the geographic pole of the earth and alter its spin angle? And I'm not talking immediately, but maybe over the period of thousands of years until it found its equilibrium again at the current 23.5-degree angle we know today?
I mean, it seems like that would have to be quite the large thing that struck the earth, and I don't think that there is any evidence that something that big caused the YDE, but I'm just spitballing questions since the timing seems pretty coincidental.
originally posted by: Woodswatcher
I feel like a caveman trying to understand everything sometimes lol a reply to: keukendeur