Fatal Heart Inflammation Officially Recognized as Being Caused by Pfizer Vax

originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: Bigburgh

Sorry to hear you had such a bad experience. How are you doing now?

My brother in law has a lot of heart issues and he took the Pfizer vaccine and did not experience any issues thankfully. Some of the population may be predisposed to complications.

Thanks,
My parents got the Pfizer and did ok. But many others were having blood clots (DVTs)

I got the Moderna because at the time it was the least problematic and I'm trying to travel to another country. So this is what I'm experiencing post vaccinated.

The problems are dwindling down but taking time. The left side of my mouth still taste metallic while the heart is slowly getting better but there is some permanent damage. 6-12-21 was the final vaccination date.

My boss is back in ICU. They've removed 20 pounds of fluid while they wait to do open heart surgery tomorrow. She was very active prior to the V. It took 6 months to go from running daily, playing golf and tennis weekly to not able to move from pain of the fluid retention and so tired from her sudden heart issue. And her spleen and liver are still enlarged along with her heart and her disintegrating heart valve.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: Bigburgh

Edit: THE POINT: my heart was already slightly enlarged prior as shown from the pre op heart exam. After the second shot when I truly felt off was when cardiologist notice a significant increase in size.

Thank you for your honesty.
I think we’ve had too many opinions and not enough honest dialogue.

What did your Dr say? Is this condition reversible?

Doctors will ask if you are a runner. I was very athletic in my younger years and it did attribute to my larger heart throughout my 20s and 30s. I'm so much older now.

I'm older and need a physical before surgeries, which includes a Echocardiogram/Sonogram. That's how they were able to tell a difference in a short time.

My Doctor wasn't happy I went behind his back getting vaccinated. In my defence his office was not granted the use of any vaccines, only certain local pharmacies had them and distributed them.

I saw him for a check up and ask if he received his vaccination. He replied it was terrible, it was the first time in 30 years of practice that he had to take off an entire week because he go so ill.

After that he expressed that I should always check with him first.

a reply to: Bigburgh
See, this is another problem....

Had to wait on taking certain meds due to the fact that they are apparently ineffective after the vaccines.

We don't even know what meds are contraindicated to this vaccine. They haven't published any research data. We don't know for example if certain blood pressure meds are contraindicated ie taking the jab will react with your meds.
Wishing you well,
Rainbows
Jane

originally posted by: summer5
My boss is back in ICU. They've removed 20 pounds of fluid while they wait to do open heart surgery tomorrow. She was very active prior to the V. It took 6 months to go from running daily, playing golf and tennis weekly to not able to move from pain of the fluid retention and so tired from her sudden heart issue. And her spleen and liver are still enlarged along with her heart and her disintegrating heart valve.

I am sorry to hear that. Hopefully, they will get things all under control.

Has there been any suggestion of rheumatic fever as the cause?

originally posted by: carewemust

A person who recovers from Covid-19 and then is pressured into being vaccinated, is playing with fire...short term and long term.

My dad and stepmom both got vaccinated within about a month of recovering from COVID-19, and my stepmom's was a pretty intense case (had one foot on the line where she was about to be take to the hospital). It was a very poor decision, and now I think that my dad may be experiencing some of the heart issues related to the vaccine. He also suffered the "widowmaker" heart attack a few years ago and had three stents put into his heart/arteries, so in my opinion, that was yet another reason why he shouldn't have gotten the vaccine.

Of course, at the time, the heart-issue side effects weren't known or made known to the public (back in January), so we didn't even really know about that reason not to get it either.

It's bad all around in some people. Hopefully your wife does okay with it.

a reply to: rickymouse

Not only they are dangerously downplayed by our health agencies but as well the media is downplaying them as treatable or rare.
I remember someone from high school a few years back they had that condition its not a pleasant experience.

I wish folks would just be honest and say, if you get the jab there are multiple issues that could happen that would not have been an issue without the vax. If you don't get it then there is a singular issue...covid.

Personally I will stick with the possibility of one issue versus possibly dozens of unknowns.

originally posted by: angelchemuel
a reply to: Bigburgh
See, this is another problem....

Had to wait on taking certain meds due to the fact that they are apparently ineffective after the vaccines.

We don't even know what meds are contraindicated to this vaccine. They haven't published any research data. We don't know for example if certain blood pressure meds are contraindicated ie taking the jab will react with your meds.
Wishing you well,
Rainbows
Jane

Valsartin, Labetalol. Aspirin ok. They couldn't give me steroids either. Have a picc line installed... but lol, nobody knows what to push.

But I am getting better.

Reply for CHR0NAUT

No. Nothing mentioned. Just all her "specialist" Dr's are baffled. Her symptoms from a week after 2nd dose were UTI, back pain for 3 months treated with pain, antiinflammatory meds(she thought she hurt her back. I think it was her liver), non stop nose bleeds to the point she needed to have inside her nose to be cauterized, after no relief from her back issues had scans done when they found an enlarged spleen and liver. White count suddenly dropped extremely low, very tired, hard to walk from being out of breath to ending up in ICU weeks ago diagnosed with an enlarged heart and a flap that needs replacing. She retained so much fluid her arms and legs looked like they were going to pop. She's now waiting for open heart surgery.

Except that there is scientific data that explains the reason for the heart and pericardial inflammation.

Do you have scientific data to support visiting a bar will result in a concussion? No, you don't.

Totally fallacious argument you've posed, but I think you already knew that.

As for you bringing politics into this - total non-sequitur and has no place in this discussion; nice try, though.
a reply to: AaarghZombies

"The severity of symptoms makes no difference" -- it does when we're discussing ethics, which is what I was referring to. If something produces mild side effects but prevents thousands of deaths, I'd say it would be ethical to mandate that vaccine.

Since it's not, and there is a risk of death, then I say it's unethical.

I do take your point, though, and I don't disagree with your passion around being free from mandates. I just have a different view on community vs individual than most here do. I am a firm believer that community needs have a place in weighing right from wrong, at least to a degree.

But I can appreciate your stance, so thank you.
a reply to: Boadicea

originally posted by: Bigburgh
a reply to: BatSars

I had surgery before and a check up with the cardiologist just prior. Post OP is when I received first dose and 22 days later the second dose. But I got the Moderna, started having issues immediately after and stayed at the hospital for a few days. They thought I had Pericarditis and I was throwing out all kinds of PVCs and Arrhythmia's which were irregular/irregular. At one point I went into Supraventricular tachycardia (svt). So I got to enjoy a particular drug I've given in the field a handful of times Verapamil, I've had heart Palpitations before but this was a special punishment it felt.

I'm glad Pfizer is at least Dripping little bits...
But we need a TKO full on Bolus of info here.

Thanks for signing for ATS BTW

Edit: THE POINT:
my heart was already slightly enlarged prior as shown from the pre op heart exam. After the second shot when I truly felt off was when cardiologist notice a significant increase in size.

Had to wait on taking certain meds due to the fact that they are apparently ineffective after the vaccines. Hehe I'm actually going to go get my tetanus in a bit... I was told I was out of date and needed it, but had to wait.

Damn, I hate to hear all the stuff you and your family are going through, prayers my friend.

originally posted by: Bigburgh


Thanks for signing for ATS BTW

My apologies, but I don't understand this? I'm new here so not in on the lingo or phrases of this community yet! Thanks in advance.

Also, I'm sorry to hear that. I get irregular heart beats from time to time and I can only imagine how scary that would be to deal with that over and over again. Takes my breath away sometimes and can even induce panic attacks.

Be well!

a reply to: BatSars

It seems the media or at least the main stations have stopped reporting on side effects caused by the vaccines, so its pretty difficult to get proof.

a reply to: carewemust

Im praying for her

originally posted by: Bigburgh

originally posted by: angelchemuel
a reply to: Bigburgh
See, this is another problem....

Had to wait on taking certain meds due to the fact that they are apparently ineffective after the vaccines.

We don't even know what meds are contraindicated to this vaccine. They haven't published any research data. We don't know for example if certain blood pressure meds are contraindicated ie taking the jab will react with your meds.
Wishing you well,
Rainbows
Jane

But I am getting better.

That's the important part.

Both my folks are on meds. Dad's on statins because he's old, slightly overweight and just this side of diabetic.
Mum had a stroke a few years back but made a pretty awesome recovery (thanks to very quick treatment and she's a tough one) just a few memory problems.

They had Pfizer and I asked them if there were any questions about their meds. No one asked them at the jab centre.

I only hope that their docs would have advised them in advance if there was a problem but I still find it odd that the jab people just went ahead without any checks.

a reply to: CrazeeWorld777
The same media meanwhile are blaming the un vaxxed.

a reply to: BatSars

Oops,
I didn't type that right.

I said,
Thank you for signing up and becoming a member here on ATS ( Above Top Secret ).

You are distributing very good information.

originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: Bigburgh

Sorry to hear you had such a bad experience. How are you doing now?

My brother in law has a lot of heart issues and he took the Pfizer vaccine and did not experience any issues thankfully. Some of the population may be predisposed to complications.

That's the crux of the issue heart disease is the number 1 killer in America 600,000 plus every year since 2015 I believe. So now you have a vaccine for something that is only lethal to less than 3% of the population.

It's not even a completely effective vaccine as you can still get COVID and so far for very few heart inflammation. If you have heart issues which no doubt is a lot of people you can see their legitimate concern.