Is Dr. Fauci is lying to Congress on Gain of Function Test based on Washington Post 2020 story?

Smart people can use semantics to get out of a pickle. I will once again watch the tape of the Dr. Fauci and Rand Paul testimony. I sent the thread to my PhD Genetic Engineering and Department Chair brother who also has a PhD in Microbiology and asked him whether he can discern as to who is telling the truth. The USA owned Chinese media is backing Fauci. So can Fauci discredit the Wasington Post reporter.

I hope some light will be shed.

Well look at this:

Washington Post Opinion by
Josh Rogin
Columnist
April 14, 2020


Opinion: State Department cables warned of safety issues at Wuhan lab studying bat coronaviruses

“Most importantly,” the cable states, “the researchers also showed that various SARS-like coronaviruses can interact with ACE2, the human receptor identified for SARS-coronavirus. This finding strongly suggests that SARS-like coronaviruses from bats can be transmitted to humans to cause SARS-like diseases. From a public health perspective, this makes the continued surveillance of SARS-like coronaviruses in bats and study of the animal-human interface critical to future emerging coronavirus outbreak prediction and prevention.” The research was designed to prevent the next SARS-like pandemic by anticipating how it might emerge. But even in 2015, other scientists questioned whether Shi’s team was taking unnecessary risks. In October 2014, the U.S. government had imposed a moratorium on funding of any research that makes a virus more deadly or contagious, known as “gain-of-function” experiments. As many have pointed out, there is no evidence that the virus now plaguing the world was engineered; scientists largely agree it came from animals. But that is not the same as saying it didn’t come from the lab, which spent years testing bat coronaviruses in animals, said Xiao Qiang, a research scientist at the School of Information at the University of California at Berkeley.


2nd REFERENCE to Washington Post story

NIH Cancels Funding for Bat Coronavirus Research Project The abrupt termination comes after the research drew President Trump’s attention for its ties to the Wuhan Institute of Virology

3rd REFERENCE CNS News [read between the tea leaves]

NIH Director Francis Collins Confirms NIH Sent Funds to EcoHealth Alliance, Which Sent $600K to Wuhan Institute of Virology

“So this continues to be discussed, and I just would like Dr. Collins maybe just a couple of clarifications. I understand we did not directly fund the Wuhan Institute of Virology, but my understanding is we did send about $3.7 million in grants to EcoHealth Alliance, of which $600,000 went to the Wuhan Institute of Virology to various studies there. Is that true?” Harris asked Collins.

COLLINS: That is correct. I’m gonna ask Dr. Fauci—
HARRIS: No, I only five minutes. I just need—that’s true, okay, so as I read it. That’s true. Do we know whether the Wuhan Institute of Virology does gain-of-function research?
COLLINS: They were not approved by NIH for doing gain-of-function research. We do not – and that’s the official government identification for that term by the way. We are of course not aware of other sources of funds or other activities they might have undertaken outside of what our approved grant allowed.
HARRIS: So we could have sent money-- through EcoHealth Alliance, money could have ended up in the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which might be doing gain-of-function research, and in fact, since they sent a general of the Communist Party army to take over the lab in February 2020. It’s not out of the realm of possibility they’re doing that. Because I do know that money is somewhat fungible, once you send money to institutes, that it bothers me a little bit that we would send money to an institute that might be doing gain-of-function research, especially China. Do we send any money to any sub-agencies or sub-grantees that could be sending money to Russia?
COLLINS: I don’t know the specific answer to that. I think we have in the past, and I don’t know whether we currently do or not.
HARRIS: And we will submit it as a QFR, if you could get back to us about that.

a reply to: Waterglass

“The USA owned Chinese media”

Pretty sure you meant ‘The Chinese owned USA media’.

This just sounds like even more BS Damage control by saying ‘Warned of safety concerns’.

So they are moving towards admitting that it came out of the lab in Wuhan.

Still trying to veer away from the possibility of it being intentional.

a reply to: Waterglass

Not to cause thread drift, but I swear this whole thing looks and sounds, so much like a book I read not long ago.

The name is "The Immunity Index", by Sue Burke.

It is fiction, and I got it from the library, but so much of what is going on as this whole thing unfolds, sounds like it came straight out the book.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

Mwybe because the book was published 2 months ago and is obviously drawing from current events.

originally posted by: RMFX1
a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

Maybe because the book was published 2 months ago and is obviously drawing from current events.

You are right there. It did indeed draw off some present day stuff.

Thanks for reminding of that very important fact.

She still did a good job of making me think.

a reply to: Waterglass

He is lying.

Unfortunately Rand Paul handed Fauci an out to argue against, which is what he done. He should have just stuck to the GOF funding that Fauci lied about.

Rand Paul needs to calm down and concentrate on what hes saying, just stick to the criminal accusation and Fauci is gonzo.

a reply to: Waterglass

In all honesty, this is a matter which would benefit greatly from an independent counsel. Let's put some resources and effort into investigating actual foreign manipulation of US policy and unlawful usage of taxpayer funds for a change... investigate Fauci and the entire network and let's see just how much of this pandemic the US assisted in creating.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: myselfaswell
a reply to: Waterglass

He is lying.

Unfortunately Rand Paul handed Fauci an out to argue against, which is what he done. He should have just stuck to the GOF funding that Fauci lied about.

Rand Paul needs to calm down and concentrate on what hes saying, just stick to the criminal accusation and Fauci is gonzo.

Not sure which ‘out’. you think Dr. Paul provided. Fauci was trying to define the research that was funded as not GoF, rather than deny the funding. Dr.Paul didnt let him.

a reply to: BrujaRebooted

Quite clearly Rand Paul accuses Fauci of funding the creation of the current corona virus. That is entirely speculative and completely unknowable. Fauci spends most of the time arguing against that claim to distract from the actual accusation.

What Fauci has done is funded GOF research, illegally. He knows it, everybody that has followed this knows it. He should face a criminal court and let all of the evidence be presented.

originally posted by: myselfaswell
a reply to: BrujaRebooted

Quite clearly Rand Paul accuses Fauci of funding the creation of the current corona virus. That is entirely speculative and completely unknowable. Fauci spends most of the time arguing against that claim to distract from the actual accusation.

What Fauci has done is funded GOF research, illegally. He knows it, everybody that has followed this knows it. He should face a criminal court and let all of the evidence be presented.

He quite clearly said a number of times that he was not saying the funding created covid19 but that the GoF was funded by US $$. Fauci kept saying it didnt create Covid19. The comment about millions dying or millions of deaths if a GoF virus escaped wasnt clear. Either way, if Fauci had won the debate, MSDNC would not have completely deleted everything Paul had to say from their coverage. Every single word!

Thanks Fauci
The best damn virus US taxpayer money could buy .

I don't know if Fauci is lying but this information was public back in 2015.

www.nature.com...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

However, sequence data alone provides minimal insights to identify and prepare for future prepandemic viruses. Therefore, to examine the emergence potential (that is, the potential to infect humans) of circulating bat CoVs, we built a chimeric virus encoding a novel, zoonotic CoV spike protein—from the RsSHC014-CoV sequence that was isolated from Chinese horseshoe bats1—in the context of the SARS-CoV mouse-adapted backbone. The hybrid virus allowed us to evaluate the ability of the novel spike protein to cause disease independently of other necessary adaptive mutations in its natural backbone. 

On the surface of the article, it certainly resembles gain of function research and pandemic potential was explicitly acknowledged. It's been out in the open for years apparently but I haven't seen anyone submit this documentation for court review. If anyone was looking for a smoking gun, it's here.

Is Dr. Fauci is lying to Congress on Gain of Function Test based on Washington Post 2020 story?

Short answer no.

Long answer also no.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
I don't know if Fauci is lying but this information was public back in 2015.

www.nature.com...

This is madness.

“The only impact of this work is the creation, in a lab, of a new, non-natural risk,” agrees Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and biodefence expert at Rutgers University in Piscataway, New Jersey. Both Ebright and Wain-Hobson are long-standing critics of gain-of-function research.

In their paper, the study authors also concede that funders may think twice about allowing such experiments in the future. "Scientific review panels may deem similar studies building chimeric viruses based on circulating strains too risky to pursue," they write, adding that discussion is needed as to "whether these types of chimeric virus studies warrant further investigation versus the inherent risks involved”.

Useful research

But Baric and others say the research did have benefits. The study findings “move this virus from a candidate emerging pathogen to a clear and present danger”, says Peter Daszak, who co-authored the 2013 paper. Daszak is president of the EcoHealth Alliance, an international network of scientists, headquartered in New York City, that samples viruses from animals and people in emerging-diseases hotspots across the globe.

Studies testing hybrid viruses in human cell culture and animal models are limited in what they can say about the threat posed by a wild virus, Daszak agrees. But he argues that they can help indicate which pathogens should be prioritized for further research attention.


Without the experiments, says Baric, the SHC014 virus would still be seen as not a threat. Previously, scientists had believed, on the basis of molecular modelling and other studies, that it should not be able to infect human cells. The latest work shows that the virus has already overcome critical barriers, such as being able to latch onto human receptors and efficiently infect human airway cells, he says. “I don't think you can ignore that.” He plans to do further studies with the virus in non-human primates, which may yield data more relevant to humans.

So they take a virus that is/was considered of minimal threat to humanity and artificially futz with it to such a degree that the resulting mutation is very dangerous to humans just to be able to say "Look! Our work has value! We have identified that this virus can become dangerous by making it dangerous in the lab!!!"

This is the horsecrap Fauci was approving US tax dollars be used to fund? THIS!?!? Here, I can take a perfectly safe stick, sit on my deck with a knife and carve it into a pointed end and stab Fauci in the eyeballs with it. I've proven that sticks are very dangerous... where's my tax payer grant for this research? Oh, wait... I didn't actually produce sticks that naturally grow into something that can kill humans out of something previously inert like the labs did so I don't get a grant and we can't go frolicking through the fields felating science like Fauci does?

Fauci is a fraud and, even worse, HE and his ilk are clear and present dangers to humanity.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

I don't disagree. The question is how to hold those agencies accountable for participating in what could well be described as bioweapon development. Just because no one planned to build a bomb (if we believe what they say) doesn't absolve them.

Short answer? Yes. His ego alone sezitall

Get Rekt. Dr. Mouthpiece of Sel-righteous Death.

Grab a beer with Andy Cuomo the Buthcer of NY.

Laugh it up with Napa Newsom and Maskless and Permed Pelosi.

I don’t gotta read WaPo or know when someone is showboating.

Birds of a feather…

Well the insurrection of ‘21 was a bust.

He laughs and insults elected congressman under oath.

Suggestions?

A reply to:TzarChasm

originally posted by: slatesteam
Well the insurrection of ‘21 was a bust.

He laughs and insults elected congressman under oath.

Suggestions?

A reply to:TzarChasm

Organized protest at each of the institutes named in the documents I linked above, flyers handed out on streets and emailed to all whistleblower channels who will dare to read and fact check the articles. I'm actually sort of baffled why Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, James Corbett and their associates haven't gone viral with these docs yet.

What in the....unbelievable. Un freaking believable. How isn’t this being shouted from every roof top? How isn’t this on every channel? It’s just a big fat smoking gun and no one cares? Its so brazen so ridiculously bold.

What’s the next step air drop flyers like ww2?

a reply to: burdman30ott6