Children Use Cola to Fake Covid Test Results

You need to account for the difference between a medically trained member and staff and not. We are actually classed as stewards as it means they can pay us far less.

Also we only need somewhere to out the van which we don't pay for as the local council lets us use land they manage and we don't need a facility to administer the tests.

It costs a fraction of what it did before it was bought in.

I don't know the impact of the false negatives but this is ATS remember so it's only false positives that are of concern

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: nonspecific

Don gown, gloves, N95, leave it on the whole shift other than break time, and it's very little difference. The cost might be a little higher, but not getting false negatives should cover the cost.

I'm sure they understand what the percentage is affected by self administration.

As someone that assists people testing I can say that the vast majority of people are able to get what would he classed as a decent swab.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: nonspecific

Here in the UK you do the PCR test yourself.

Sit in your car and swab in tha back of the throat then up one nostril. Put it in a vial and then a medibag and it gets taken to the lab via currier.

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

OK, but where I am you don't do the test by yourself. There is a nurse in a lab doing the test with you.

There is potential for contamination or not getting a good enough sample if people test themselves. I do understand that there is less likelihood of transmission of the virus, and faster sample gathering, but I believe it would lead to too many poor readings.

a reply to: nonspecific

Fully qualified nurses start on salaries of £24,907

www.prospects.ac.uk...#:~:text=Fully%20qualified%20nurses%20start%20on,%C2%A331%2C365%20to%20%C2%A337%2C890.

That's $34k USD, $17 an hour, barely more than a high school kid working at Target here.

As I said we are classed as stewards, car parking staff as it were. UK minimum wage.

Plus to do that many tests in a day you'd need more than 7 members of staff and a facility to have enough booths to administer a test every 15 seconds or so including the registration and cleaning in between.

It seems to be working well in my opinion.

EDIT. Due to a combination of brexit and the shockingly low wages and horribly long hours we are also very short of nurses as it is.


a reply to: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: nonspecific

Here in the UK you do the PCR test yourself.

Sit in your car and swab in tha back of the throat then up one nostril. Put it in a vial and then a medibag and it gets taken to the lab via currier.

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

OK, but where I am you don't do the test by yourself. There is a nurse in a lab doing the test with you.

We have that option too, but it is little less accurate. Wife and me did that in a drive thru pharmacy and got negative, same day we went for the one in the lab and got positive.

The job asked 2 tests.

Was the test assisted in terms of how you swabbed?

Here we will stand next to the car and walk you through it if either you are not confident or we feel you are not likely to get a good swab.



a reply to: Trueman

a reply to: Trueman

I have heard that so many times. The do it yourself swab is much more likely to be a false negative, when you are really positive.

So you would say that figures in the UK wood actually he a lot higher?

What kind of percentage are you talking about?

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Trueman

I have heard that so many times. The do it yourself swab is much more likely to be a false negative, when you are really positive.

a reply to: nonspecific

Not necessarily, I am saying they should be lower. Bad testing makes positive people believe they are negative, so they spread covid. Usually they eventually get found out to be positive.

originally posted by: nonspecific
Was the test assisted in terms of how you swabbed?

a reply to: Trueman

Yes. I guess it is about test efficiency.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: dug88

Which is why PCR is preferable.

to what?

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: dug88

Which is why PCR is preferable.

Only if used properly, which no one is doing, so... nope.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: nonspecific

Yes, because you are unlikely to go as far as necessary to do the test correctly. I go way up, whereas the do it yourself is barely in the nose. You will get way more false negatives.

No one, least of all me, is sticking that thing up my nose.

I will fight being tested almost as much as the jab (which I will fight to the death), but I will fight the nose/brain swab to the death as well.

Not doing it.

a reply to: tanstaafl

Says who, you? Tell you what, go get a degree and work in the field then get back to me.

originally posted by: RoScoLaz5

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: dug88

Which is why PCR is preferable.

to what?

LFT. Or any other test for that matter. Several tests are needed though to get the full clinical picture if the PCR is positive.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: tanstaafl

Says who, you?

Yep.

Tell you what, go get a degree and work in the field then get back to me.

Tell you what...

No.

I understand the jab reluctance but what reason would you have for fighting to the death over a nasal swab?

Is that just for covid 19 or are you anti-swab for any test?

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: nonspecific

Yes, because you are unlikely to go as far as necessary to do the test correctly. I go way up, whereas the do it yourself is barely in the nose. You will get way more false negatives.

No one, least of all me, is sticking that thing up my nose.

I will fight being tested almost as much as the jab (which I will fight to the death), but I will fight the nose/brain swab to the death as well.

Not doing it.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: tanstaafl

Says who, you?

Yep.

Tell you what, go get a degree and work in the field then get back to me.

Tell you what...

No.

I don't understand this quote system much sorry. I also will not be having anything injected into me. Once we start seeing healthy babies with no longterm issues born to a vaccinated mother and father i may be swayed otherwise. The vaccines we were jabbed with as children in the 70's and 80's were safe too..

I would rather risk dying naturally than risking a flu season with weakened 'vaccinated' immunity. So many vaxxed folks getting sick with the virus after their jabs... Nah mate, thanks anyway though I think I will take my chances.

I was recently in hospital which wasn't full of covid patients at all... The first question the doc asked while diagnosing me was "when did you have your jab" assuming my heart trouble was Vax related... Is it normal to assume that first? I wouldn't have thought so... Must be perfectly safe these vaccines... Good luck to all who've had it, and to those that chose not too. Who took the bigger risk?

originally posted by: nonspecific

I understand the jab reluctance but what reason would you have for fighting to the death over a nasal swab?

Is that just for covid 19 or are you anti-swab for any test?

It is for any test that has an inherent and unnecessary risk.

originally posted by: solentsunrise
I don't understand this quote system much sorry.

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Once we start seeing healthy babies with no longterm issues born to a vaccinated mother and father i may be swayed otherwise.

Not me, because I believe a healthy lifestyle and maintaining a healthy immune system is far superior to any partial immunity provided by these jabs of toxic chemicals.

Come talk to me when they can make something that doesn't contain toxic chemicals (aluminum, mercury, formaldehyde, etc), cells from aborted fetal tissue, etc.

The vaccines we were jabbed with as children in the 70's and 80's were safe too.

Ask those who died or were permanently debilitated from them.