GPs Paid per Jab From UK China Virus "Vaccination" Campaign

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: bastion
Well yeah, as the article explains it's so it will be cost neutral, it's not the GPs being paid, there's no profit involved. They're not making any money off it as £12.58 is the admin, freezing, storage, vaxing, staff cost per jab.

Most people had their jabs done at vax centres rather than having it at their GP practice and the GP doesn't even adninister the jab if people have it at their practice. There hasn't been a massive pressure campaign in the UK either.

Yeah...that's the spin.
Thanks.

I think that this goes to show that you should do some basic research before posting, and not try to apply the very worst practices in the US to other countries.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: bastion

originally posted by: teapot
a reply to: IAMTAT
Good people or bad people, makes no difference, GP's are now all businessmen/peeps/theys/others. Each surgery is a registered business and vaccination forms part of the business model and income stream

As I understand it, GP's are paid for each registered patient who gets jabbed, even if the patient receives the jab at a vaccination centre rather than the surgery?

The GP doesn't get paid - The Clinic al Commisioning Group reimburses the Primary Care Network the administration costs of providing the vaccinations.

Here's a link to the NHS reimbursement page explaining more

...and then the two PCN representatives distribute payments to the GP.

The lead practice will also be responsible for receiving all payments for their PCN group and distributing payments to the other practices.

Yup. GP stands for General Practitioner.

As the piece you quoted states the money is distributed from the lead practice who distribute the payments to the other practices that fall under it, not to the GP.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: IAMTAT

In the US. . .

"The Anti-Kickback Statute and Stark Law prohibit medical providers from paying or receiving kickbacks, remuneration, or anything of value in exchange for referrals of patients who will receive treatment paid for by government healthcare programs such as Medicare and Medicaid, and from entering into certain kinds of financial relationships."

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Not sure of the laws in the UK.

UK laws are very different. Firstly big pharm can't usually go direct, they have to go through a central purchasing department that negotiates collectively for the whole country. So any kickbacks would be ... well ... they'd need to be in the hundreds of millions range in order to corrupt entire departments of civil servants.

The UK's anti-graft laws are also much stricter, and the penalties for breaking them are much higher. Because the UK has a centralized system if you're caught grifting you might as well emigrate because you'd not be able to go into public practice again for a very long time.

In the US it's still perfectly legal in some states to invite somebody out to a "seminar" that's at a gold course with a day spa attached, and give all attendants free access and a 5 star meal afterwards, and maybe slip them a gift bag.

In the UK this isn't allowed, and would be considered a form of gross misconduct. It's also largely useless as purchasing is done centrally, so you'd be offering bribes to people who can't essentially influence decisions.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Here in Canada they are getting paid $170/hr days $220/hr evenings to work at a Vax site.

Also, they receive money from Big Pharma.

Canadian MD's Taking Money From Big Pharma

Not to mention it just takes a BS directive coming from above and the MD's have to follow it.

Or they'll be gagged.

Keep your Private Healthcare.....this is a mess...

I know the UKs is National, whereas ours is Provincial, but same issues.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Yes. Doctors do get perks and incentives for following the government and pushing products.

Look at the history of medicine and how it went south when CMS took over.


How Government Killed the Medical Profession

originally posted by: Moohide
a reply to: IAMTAT

Also getting extra pay for....

GPs are also visiting those who cannot leave home to ensure that they are also protected.

They will receive an additional £10 on top of the standard vaccination fee for all every housebound person they vaccinate.

Some GP services working in towns and cities have been vaccinating more than 100 people with conditions such as dementia, each day.

£10 x 100 people = £1000 per day, thats £5000 per week if they work 5 days (a lot of doctors don't they work 2 or 3 days a week). That's on top of there pay of £100,000 or more a week.

Absolutely Scandolous. NHS England

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Doctors don’t get paid 100k per week! I take it you meant per year but even that sounds on the high end.

a reply to: IAMTAT

However, “enhanced services”, such as national vaccination schemes, are paid for separately (here). This money is paid to the general practice, not individual doctors as the Facebook meme suggests. The confusion may stem from the fact general practice (the surgery) and general practitioner (the doctor) are both commonly abbreviated to GP.

The BMJ article says that general practices are normally paid £10.06 to administer a flu vaccine. This fee is increased by 25% for the COVID-19 vaccine due to “extra training, post-vaccine observation and other associated costs”. The BMJ article quotes from an NHS England letter outlining the proposal that was sent to general practice teams on Nov. 9 (here).
www.reuters.com...

Covid is just one of the many things they get paid for , the money goes to the Medical Practice not the doctor.

a reply to: DBCowboy

GOOD.
So "vaccine" maker, PFIZER having to pay the largest criminal fine (of any type) in US history ($2.3B) for "bribing doctors and suppressing adverse trial results"...can never happen again.

Pfizer Hit with Largest Criminal Fine in US History

In addition to the honor of largest criminal fine of any type from the feds ever (according to the DOJ), Pfizer will also pay the largest civil fraud settlement ($1 billion) ever forced on a pharmaceutical company in the US.

blogs.findlaw.com...

It's good to know we can trust them...now that they no longer face any possibility of being sued over the "vaccine".

a reply to: surfer_soul

Well pointed out, i did mean per year.

But, the BMA says, although there is a pay scale for GP's (England - £60,455 min, £91,229 max) they also say,

There is no pay scale for salaried GPs.
For a doctor working less than full time, this salary is calculated pro rata.
While the DDRB pay range for salaried GPs in England goes up to £91,229, there is no upper limit.
The exact salary for all GPs is a matter of negotiation between the salaried GP and the employer.

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This from Jan 2020.

The GP on £600,000-a-year and 164 are on more than £200k

And from 12 March 2021

An unidentified GP is earning £700,000 a year - four times Boris Johnson's salary

Nearly 7,500 GPs have incomes between £100,000 and £199,999, NHS confirms

Figures are a contrast to the starting salary of a newly qualified nurse - £24,907

They are paid enough already. Nurses are not paid enough.


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a reply to: IAMTAT

Ha, look at the justice department records on line that deal with medical malpractice specially the big pharma, no wonder they get incentives from tax payers in order to pay out the billions of law sues they get all the time after killing people with their miracle treatments.

And then we are to trust their dirty corrupted ass?, really.

From Pfizer to Moderna: who's making billions from Covid-19 vaccines?

The companies in line for the biggest gains – and the shareholders who have already made fortunes


Sat 6 Mar 2021 06.55 EST

The arrival of Covid-19 vaccines promises a return to more normal life – and has created a global market worth tens of billions of dollars in annual sales for some pharmaceutical companies.

Among the biggest winners will be Moderna and Pfizer – two very different US pharma firms which are both charging more than $30 per person for the protection of their two-dose vaccines. While Moderna was founded just 11 years ago, has never made a profit and employed just 830 staff pre-pandemic, Pfizer traces its roots back to 1849, made a net profit of $9.6bn last year and employs nearly 80,000 staff.

But other drugmakers, such as the British-Swedish AstraZeneca and the US pharma Johnson & Johnson, have pledged to provide their vaccines on a not-for-profit basis until the pandemic comes to an end.

Whether the market remains a money-spinner in the future depends on whether the vaccines become the type that need just a one-off shot – as for measles – or if regular vaccinations will be required, such as for flu. But in the immediate future, there are big financial returns up for grabs.

Here, we look at who is in line for the biggest gains – and which shareholders have already made fortunes.

www.theguardian.com...

Scroll down to the brake down of each company making the china virus shot, UK is in there