Two-Thirds of "Vaccinated" Could Prematurely Die of Heart Failure

a reply to: AaarghZombies

This is real.

CBC News

He's not the only one either.

Did you even do a simple search with a real search engine?

Or just come in here thinking I don't do some basic research?

I never said he's right, but, it's something I'm going to look into.

Get up off me with all that...

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: IAMTAT

Given the source this could be completly fake.

Has anybody independently confirmed that A this guy is a real person and B that he actually said this? I note that there what appear to be multiple error in the section pasted in, such as what it says regarding mRNA being absorbed into cells.

Are we looking at a 100% fabricated story on a click bait website, or maybe someone with an online diploma in lesbian vegan studies from a non accredited source spouting off conspiracies based on a bad reading of Wikipedia?

I've noticed that a lot of these apparently doom mongering articles come from websites that are the equivalent of secureTeam10.

He's real.
Sounds like you better get moving on destroying this guy's credibility, then.

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I want to put this here, my husband just found out one of his cousins from his father side passed away two days ago, he was 55, no major health concern known and was in no hart medications at all, he had a hart attack, why is relevant, well he took the china covit shot a few months ago in Puerto Rico.

Now, can this be the reason of his sudden hart attack and dead? we may never know.

I am curious as to whether or not the 30% of "vaccinated" patients Dr. Hoffe performed the D-dimer test on that didn't show micro-clotting...may have only received SALINE.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

The shot has been given to so many people in such a short space of time that it's difficult to say if any spike in anything is related.

So it is a huge experiment.
Thanks.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
I am curious as to whether or not the 30% of "vaccinated" patients Dr. Hoffe performed the D-dimer test on that didn't show micro-clotting...may have only received SALINE.

Actually doevetails quite nicely.

Funny how we keep getting evidence that fits together from these "conspiracies" .

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: IAMTAT

I've noticed that a lot of these apparently doom mongering articles come from websites that are the equivalent of secureTeam10.

Because most of the 'mainstream' places like Youtube, Facebook, Google, Reddit etc are deleting, blocking and banning anything that questions the narrative and have been for a year and a half plus now. So it's only independent smaller websites and some run by out there people that are left to post these things.

Are you not concerned that questioning anything about covid and the vaccines are being shut down so completely?
That it is 'fact checked' or labelled 'fake news' often with no way to dispute it when you see the 'fact checking' is incorrect and clearly wrong?

There are a tonne of doctors and other scientific degree types out there that are saying most of this pandemic is BS, people just as qualified as Fauci and co are. Does it not concern you they keep getting silenced?

I mean c'mon, you're on ATS, you know, basically the worlds number 1 CONSPIRACY site.

If we didn't question sh*t here and just went with mainstream sources and nothing else ATS would just be another reddit or facebook and we'd all be sheep talking about how we're going to all rush out tomorrow and get a vaccine and that the clearly empty streets and hospitals are full of bodies just like the sheep everywhere else do.

So if the sites we're left with that aren't censoring things aren't good enough for you, where do you suggest we get our news and info from?

Clearly not sites like ATS, because many people out there view it as an equivalent of secureTeam10 and that we're all tin foil hat wearers. (Which as a member of this site would include you being a secureTeam10 level of tinfoil hat wearer....)

I look forward to your recommendations.

I think it's a bit late to start destroying his credibility.


He was already doing that himself a few months back by the looks of it.

www.cbc.ca...

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: IAMTAT

Given the source this could be completly fake.

Has anybody independently confirmed that A this guy is a real person and B that he actually said this? I note that there what appear to be multiple error in the section pasted in, such as what it says regarding mRNA being absorbed into cells.

Are we looking at a 100% fabricated story on a click bait website, or maybe someone with an online diploma in lesbian vegan studies from a non accredited source spouting off conspiracies based on a bad reading of Wikipedia?

I've noticed that a lot of these apparently doom mongering articles come from websites that are the equivalent of secureTeam10.

He's real.
Sounds like you better get moving on destroying this guy's credibility, then.

originally posted by: MykeNukem
a reply to: IAMTAT

They've already relieved Dr. Hoffe of duty because of this.

Then Lytton, where's he's from, hit all time canadian heat records, then 90% of it burnt to the ground killing two people.

That might be off topic but I see a possible conspiracy in it.

originally posted by: nonspecific
I think it's a bit late to start destroying his credibility.


He was already doing that himself a few months back by the looks of it.

www.cbc.ca...

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: IAMTAT

Given the source this could be completly fake.

Has anybody independently confirmed that A this guy is a real person and B that he actually said this? I note that there what appear to be multiple error in the section pasted in, such as what it says regarding mRNA being absorbed into cells.

Are we looking at a 100% fabricated story on a click bait website, or maybe someone with an online diploma in lesbian vegan studies from a non accredited source spouting off conspiracies based on a bad reading of Wikipedia?

I've noticed that a lot of these apparently doom mongering articles come from websites that are the equivalent of secureTeam10.

He's real.
Sounds like you better get moving on destroying this guy's credibility, then.

Our Government is blatantly censoring, then, destroying, anyone who speaks out about it.

They are doing this to Medical Professionals who know far more than either of us about Covid.

If you're OK with people being silenced because they interpret the same data differently, then, we have no need for Science anymore.

I'm not OK with that.

originally posted by: igloo

originally posted by: MykeNukem
a reply to: IAMTAT

They've already relieved Dr. Hoffe of duty because of this.

Then Lytton, where's he's from, hit all time canadian heat records, then 90% of it burnt to the ground killing two people.

That might be off topic but I see a possible conspiracy in it.

I was just saying how certain pieces are fitting together.

That would be off the hook insane.

Burning a whole town down to destroy his research?

The Thought Plickens.

This is ATS...

I'm ok with people being called out for spreading misleading or outright false information.

I'm certainly ok with doctors doing so.

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: nonspecific
I think it's a bit late to start destroying his credibility.


He was already doing that himself a few months back by the looks of it.

www.cbc.ca...

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: IAMTAT

Given the source this could be completly fake.

Has anybody independently confirmed that A this guy is a real person and B that he actually said this? I note that there what appear to be multiple error in the section pasted in, such as what it says regarding mRNA being absorbed into cells.

Are we looking at a 100% fabricated story on a click bait website, or maybe someone with an online diploma in lesbian vegan studies from a non accredited source spouting off conspiracies based on a bad reading of Wikipedia?

I've noticed that a lot of these apparently doom mongering articles come from websites that are the equivalent of secureTeam10.

He's real.
Sounds like you better get moving on destroying this guy's credibility, then.

Our Government is blatantly censoring, then, destroying, anyone who speaks out about it.

They are doing this to Medical Professionals who know far more than either of us about Covid.

If you're OK with people being silenced because they interpret the same data differently, then, we have no need for Science anymore.

I'm not OK with that.

a reply to: IAMTAT

The problems with this are as follows:

1. Heart disease was and is a major killer. It can even strike down those who seem to be extremely healthy. They make PSAs that point that out FFS.

2. A huge number of people have been vaccinated.

3. You are going to see significant overlaps in those two groups.

I don't see how you determine whose heart death was vaccine related and whose wasn't. It seems to me this is like assigning death from COVID when you were in a motorcycle accident.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: IAMTAT
someone with an online diploma in lesbian vegan studies

Lesbian vegan study majors are lining up for the vax. They also think that having feelings make you physically change biological sex.

from a non accredited source spouting off conspiracies based on a bad reading of Wikipedia?

Can you name the agency that does these source accreditations? Please provide an accredited source to confirm that there is a source accreditation agency.

originally posted by: nonspecific
I'm ok with people being called out for spreading misleading or outright false information.

I'm certainly ok with doctors doing so.

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: nonspecific
I think it's a bit late to start destroying his credibility.


He was already doing that himself a few months back by the looks of it.

www.cbc.ca...

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: IAMTAT

Given the source this could be completly fake.

Has anybody independently confirmed that A this guy is a real person and B that he actually said this? I note that there what appear to be multiple error in the section pasted in, such as what it says regarding mRNA being absorbed into cells.

Are we looking at a 100% fabricated story on a click bait website, or maybe someone with an online diploma in lesbian vegan studies from a non accredited source spouting off conspiracies based on a bad reading of Wikipedia?

I've noticed that a lot of these apparently doom mongering articles come from websites that are the equivalent of secureTeam10.

He's real.
Sounds like you better get moving on destroying this guy's credibility, then.

Our Government is blatantly censoring, then, destroying, anyone who speaks out about it.

They are doing this to Medical Professionals who know far more than either of us about Covid.

If you're OK with people being silenced because they interpret the same data differently, then, we have no need for Science anymore.

I'm not OK with that.

Who decides what is "misleading or false"?

Science doesn't issue Gag Orders, that I'm aware of.

Maybe they should let us have all the information and let us make an informed decision?

We're on opposite sides of the issue.

I don't trust them.

Evidence decides.

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: nonspecific
I'm ok with people being called out for spreading misleading or outright false information.

I'm certainly ok with doctors doing so.

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: nonspecific
I think it's a bit late to start destroying his credibility.


He was already doing that himself a few months back by the looks of it.

www.cbc.ca...

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: IAMTAT

Given the source this could be completly fake.

Has anybody independently confirmed that A this guy is a real person and B that he actually said this? I note that there what appear to be multiple error in the section pasted in, such as what it says regarding mRNA being absorbed into cells.

Are we looking at a 100% fabricated story on a click bait website, or maybe someone with an online diploma in lesbian vegan studies from a non accredited source spouting off conspiracies based on a bad reading of Wikipedia?

I've noticed that a lot of these apparently doom mongering articles come from websites that are the equivalent of secureTeam10.

He's real.
Sounds like you better get moving on destroying this guy's credibility, then.

Our Government is blatantly censoring, then, destroying, anyone who speaks out about it.

They are doing this to Medical Professionals who know far more than either of us about Covid.

If you're OK with people being silenced because they interpret the same data differently, then, we have no need for Science anymore.

I'm not OK with that.

Who decides what is "misleading or false"?

Science doesn't issue Gag Orders, that I'm aware of.

Maybe they should let us have all the information and let us make an informed decision?

We're on opposite sides of the issue.

I don't trust them.

originally posted by: nonspecific
Evidence decides.

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: nonspecific
I'm ok with people being called out for spreading misleading or outright false information.

I'm certainly ok with doctors doing so.

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: nonspecific
I think it's a bit late to start destroying his credibility.


He was already doing that himself a few months back by the looks of it.

www.cbc.ca...

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: IAMTAT

Given the source this could be completly fake.

Has anybody independently confirmed that A this guy is a real person and B that he actually said this? I note that there what appear to be multiple error in the section pasted in, such as what it says regarding mRNA being absorbed into cells.

Are we looking at a 100% fabricated story on a click bait website, or maybe someone with an online diploma in lesbian vegan studies from a non accredited source spouting off conspiracies based on a bad reading of Wikipedia?

I've noticed that a lot of these apparently doom mongering articles come from websites that are the equivalent of secureTeam10.

He's real.
Sounds like you better get moving on destroying this guy's credibility, then.

Our Government is blatantly censoring, then, destroying, anyone who speaks out about it.

They are doing this to Medical Professionals who know far more than either of us about Covid.

If you're OK with people being silenced because they interpret the same data differently, then, we have no need for Science anymore.

I'm not OK with that.

Who decides what is "misleading or false"?

Science doesn't issue Gag Orders, that I'm aware of.

Maybe they should let us have all the information and let us make an informed decision?

We're on opposite sides of the issue.

I don't trust them.

No.

Evidence is just data.

It requires interpretation.

ETA:

- Galileo had an interpretation of the evidence that he saw. He also started the "Scientific Method".
- What happened when they decided his interpretation was "false or misleading"?

You want to take us back to the Middle Ages FFS

That's not what evidence is.

Evidence is not data.

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: nonspecific
Evidence decides.

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: nonspecific
I'm ok with people being called out for spreading misleading or outright false information.

I'm certainly ok with doctors doing so.

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: nonspecific
I think it's a bit late to start destroying his credibility.


He was already doing that himself a few months back by the looks of it.

www.cbc.ca...

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: IAMTAT

Given the source this could be completly fake.

Has anybody independently confirmed that A this guy is a real person and B that he actually said this? I note that there what appear to be multiple error in the section pasted in, such as what it says regarding mRNA being absorbed into cells.

Are we looking at a 100% fabricated story on a click bait website, or maybe someone with an online diploma in lesbian vegan studies from a non accredited source spouting off conspiracies based on a bad reading of Wikipedia?

I've noticed that a lot of these apparently doom mongering articles come from websites that are the equivalent of secureTeam10.

He's real.
Sounds like you better get moving on destroying this guy's credibility, then.

Our Government is blatantly censoring, then, destroying, anyone who speaks out about it.

They are doing this to Medical Professionals who know far more than either of us about Covid.

If you're OK with people being silenced because they interpret the same data differently, then, we have no need for Science anymore.

I'm not OK with that.

Who decides what is "misleading or false"?

Science doesn't issue Gag Orders, that I'm aware of.

Maybe they should let us have all the information and let us make an informed decision?

We're on opposite sides of the issue.

I don't trust them.

No.

Evidence is just data.

It requires interpretation.

ETA:

- Galileo had an interpretation of the evidence that he saw. He also started the "Scientific Method".
- What happened when they decided his interpretation was "false or misleading"?

You want to take us back to the Middle Ages FFS

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: nonspecific
Evidence decides.

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: nonspecific
I'm ok with people being called out for spreading misleading or outright false information.

I'm certainly ok with doctors doing so.

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: nonspecific
I think it's a bit late to start destroying his credibility.


He was already doing that himself a few months back by the looks of it.

www.cbc.ca...

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: IAMTAT

Given the source this could be completly fake.

Has anybody independently confirmed that A this guy is a real person and B that he actually said this? I note that there what appear to be multiple error in the section pasted in, such as what it says regarding mRNA being absorbed into cells.

Are we looking at a 100% fabricated story on a click bait website, or maybe someone with an online diploma in lesbian vegan studies from a non accredited source spouting off conspiracies based on a bad reading of Wikipedia?

I've noticed that a lot of these apparently doom mongering articles come from websites that are the equivalent of secureTeam10.

He's real.
Sounds like you better get moving on destroying this guy's credibility, then.

Our Government is blatantly censoring, then, destroying, anyone who speaks out about it.

They are doing this to Medical Professionals who know far more than either of us about Covid.

If you're OK with people being silenced because they interpret the same data differently, then, we have no need for Science anymore.

I'm not OK with that.

Who decides what is "misleading or false"?

Science doesn't issue Gag Orders, that I'm aware of.

Maybe they should let us have all the information and let us make an informed decision?

We're on opposite sides of the issue.

I don't trust them.

No.

Evidence is just data.

It requires interpretation.

Yes but if someone who got vaccinated dies of a heart attack and you blame the vaccine, it's as bad as someone dying of a heart attack who tested positive for COVID and COVID was blamed.

All data; all interpretation.