FDA to Link China Virus "Vaccine" to Guillain-Barré Syndrome

originally posted by: Staffordshire08

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: IAMTAT

You think 0.5% and 0.0000078% are similar?

You'd have about 1,000,000 of the first to 1 of the latter ... yah, same thing.

Do you know the true numbers? You have access to that or going on what you have heard? Please no weak sauce I'm a HP guy.

100 cases out of 12.5 million vaccines. That's not 100 attributed to the vaccine, it's 100 total. Just like not everyone who died with covid was a death caused by covid, it's highly unlikely all of these were caused by the vaccine. Even if they were, there's been 1 death due to GB, out of 12.5 million vaccines. While any death is tragic, it's a far cry from the 400k+ deaths from covid.

a reply to: Staffordshire08

Moderna is funded by DARPA. Here is an article from 2013 talking about Darpa giving money to moderna. It was just literally the first search result when I search moderna funded by darpa. I knew they were funded by the government because they have been in operation for years with NO approved saleable medications. A big pharmaceutical company is not going to make it if they are spending millions on R&D but making no profit from selling medications. Moderna's sources of funding are pretty interesting.

Here's the link from 2013. Just one link there are many, many more informational sources about this.

investors.modernatx.com...

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: IAMTAT

You think 0.5% and 0.0000078% are similar?

You'd have about 1,000,000 of the first to 1 of the latter ... yah, same thing.

Thanks for the math lesson. I feel smart now.

I expect better posts then from you, since you are smart now. Don't let me down.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: IAMTAT

You think 0.5% and 0.0000078% are similar?

You'd have about 1,000,000 of the first to 1 of the latter ... yah, same thing.

Thanks for the math lesson. I feel smart now.

I expect better posts then from you, since you are smart now.

If only I could say the same of you.

a reply to: Staffordshire08

They have to take it out of emergency use in order to force those that do not want it, to receive it. It’s the only way they can “force” someone to take it. Most likely they won’t force anyone, they’ll just continue with the capitalistic tactics they’ve been using so far. Businesses will dictate what will and won’t be allowed in or around their establishments. That’s how they will destroy us all, is with capitalism. Watch, if they don’t force it on people, they’ll say in order for businesses with government contracts to keep said contracts, the employees must be juiced. Show me an essential business that doesn’t deal with the government contracts.

originally posted by: Havamal
99.5 percent of current US Covid deaths are among the un-vaxed.

Do you know how many Americans dies of COVID in the last 7 days 1518 the week before that it was 1634. But you know that cause I told you in another post

I am so sorry to hear about your FIL. GB is not fun. I got it in 2003 after a flu shot. I was one of the “lucky ones” who got a milder case but it still sucked.

In treatment, I met a woman who had a bad case like your FIL and is now paralyzed from the waist down. Her paralysis never reversed or went away, despite full plasmapheresis several times.

I haven’t gotten the flu shot since my experience and even before the FDA made their statement, I suspected GB to be a possibility with the CV shot. Which is just one of several reasons I decided against the vaccine. My auto immune specialist agrees with me and has advised me not to get CV vaccinated.

Basically, he believes the only ppl who should have ever considered it are those with a poorly functioning immune system. He says the greatest problems are occurring in those with strong or overactive immune systems and since the latter represents most of his patients, he said he’s advising most others he treats against it as well.

I know CV was/is real but I don’t personally know anyone who died from it. I do personally know two ppl my age (just over 50) who died from issues their ICU docs said were likely vaccine related. It’s a big no for me.

I reply to: JAGStorm

Guillain-Barré can happen with the flu shot so who cares. They want Johnson & Johnson out because that's the only one that isn't gene therapy.

originally posted by: TheGoondockSaint
Guillain-Barré can happen with the flu shot so who cares.

That's next level cold. I can't imagine having that much disregard for life.

Who cares??? GB can create serious lifelong problems. And ppl who have had it - or any form of Epstein-Barre - in the past, are often advised against getting the flu shot. Yet, no one tries to make us feel guilty for it bc they know THEIR vaccination protects THEM and that’s what they care about the most.

Why is this different? If my auto immune specialist doctor thinks it’s a bad idea for me to get the CV vaccine, why should anyone else make me feel like a villain for my non-vaccinated status? That’s the big problem for me. I don’t care if someone gets the vaccine and if they believe in its efficacy enough to get it, then they shouldn’t care that I don’t... especially when that decision for me, is based on medical advice - “science.”

a reply to: TheGoondockSaint

a reply to: TheGoondockSaint

Here is the problem. I dont remember anyone that i had known who had the flu having Guillain-Barre after the flu. Some did have issues later on but clearly not the Barre.

originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: TheGoondockSaint

Here is the problem. I dont remember anyone that i had known who had the flu having Guillain-Barre after the flu. Some did have issues later on but clearly not the Barre.

That's because you are ignorant. It's actually part of the informed consent form for the flu vaccine.

Infection with the bacterium Campylobacter jejuni is one of the most common risk factors for GBS. People also can develop GBS after having the flu or other infections (such as cytomegalovirus and Epstein Barr virus). On very rare occasions, they may develop GBS in the days or weeks after getting a vaccination.

www.cdc.gov...

a reply to: nicevillegrl

Exactly why passports and things are nonsense.

originally posted by: litterbaux

originally posted by: TheGoondockSaint
Guillain-Barré can happen with the flu shot so who cares.

That's next level cold. I can't imagine having that much disregard for life.

I didn't mean it like that. I meant GB isn't what we should be focusing on. This is a conspiracy site right?

originally posted by: nicevillegrl
Who cares??? GB can create serious lifelong problems. And ppl who have had it - or any form of Epstein-Barre - in the past, are often advised against getting the flu shot. Yet, no one tries to make us feel guilty for it bc they know THEIR vaccination protects THEM and that’s what they care about the most.

Why is this different? If my auto immune specialist doctor thinks it’s a bad idea for me to get the CV vaccine, why should anyone else make me feel like a villain for my non-vaccinated status? That’s the big problem for me. I don’t care if someone gets the vaccine and if they believe in its efficacy enough to get it, then they shouldn’t care that I don’t... especially when that decision for me, is based on medical advice - “science.”

a reply to: TheGoondockSaint

I can't edit my post but that wasn't what I was trying to say. My point was that GB is just a smoke screen, they only want the vaccines out there that are gene therapy which is why J&J is getting yanked.

originally posted by: Havamal
99.5 percent of current US Covid deaths are among the un-vaxed.

Prove it.

originally posted by: Staffordshire08
We need to think with logic here, what happens in a trial? Real thing and placebo. If you don't have the placebo it's no trial so it's one or the other.

Now let's take the placebo route, many more would have had the placebo rather than the real thing. This would make this experimental vaccine even more deadly.

Exactly. This would also explain why they say that the jab won't prevent you from getting or spreading it... because they know most people didn't actually get the jabbers.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Havamal
99.5 percent of current US Covid deaths are among the un-vaxed.

Prove it.

BOGUS stats...
It wouldn't matter anyway...

CDC PCR tests scanned "vaccinated" at a much lower cycle threshold (28 CT or less).
PCR tests on "UN vaccinated" scanned @ 35-45 CT showing much higher FALSE positives.

GO TO 30:30 in Video:
www.algora.com...

In short...
"Vaccinated" show up as NOT having CV.
"Un-vaccinated" show up as HAVING CV.

Interesting that Fauci's 95%-99% matches the SAME % for predicted FALSE positives at a PCR test scan cycle threshold of 35-45 for the "UN-Vaccinated"..

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Havamal
99.5 percent of current US Covid deaths are among the un-vaxed.

Prove it.

BOGUS stats...
It wouldn't matter anyway...

CDC PCR tests scanned "vaccinated" at a much lower cycle threshold (28 CT or less).
PCR tests on "UN vaccinated" scanned @ 35-45 CT showing much higher FALSE positives.

GO TO 30:30 in Video:
www.algora.com...

In short...
"Vaccinated" show up as NOT having CV.
"Un-vaccinated" show up as HAVING CV.

Interesting that Fauci's 95%-99% matches the SAME % for predicted FALSE positives at a PCR test scan cycle threshold of 35-45 for the "UN-Vaccinated"..

Then why did almost every PCR test run at my hospital come back negative on unvaccinated people? Every person who had any surgery/procedure needed a test to see if they had CV. If what you are saying is true, they should all have come back positive, why didn't they?

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Staffordshire08
We need to think with logic here, what happens in a trial? Real thing and placebo. If you don't have the placebo it's no trial so it's one or the other.

Now let's take the placebo route, many more would have had the placebo rather than the real thing. This would make this experimental vaccine even more deadly.

Exactly. This would also explain why they say that the jab won't prevent you from getting or spreading it... because they know most people didn't actually get the jabbers.

They don't say it won't. They say it's possible to still spread. If 100 people get the vaccine and one goes on to spread it, then it's possible, even though the other 99 didn't.