How to Reverse Type II Diabetes / Dr. Jason Fung

I have been on a journey for the last year. I have been following the theory of Dr. Jason Fung in relation Obesity and Type II diabetes. Dr. Fung is a nephrologist practicing at the Scarborough General Hospital in Ontario Canada. He got fed up with treating people with diabetes whose kidneys have failed He has theories in relation to the causes of both Obesity and Type II diabetes.

The first book is called the Obesity Code. It is Dr. Fung's theory that obesity is caused by an accumulation of insulin caused by eating the way in which we have been directed. That is a standard diet for Canadians and Americans that we eat a diet that is about 60 - 70 % and then we should try to take off excess weight by eating 6 meals a day. Insulin is the human hormone that instructs the body to accumulate fat in the belly. That is the standard apple shape of diabetics and non-diabetics.

Type II diabetes is caused when the cells of the body become resistant to insulin and therefore refuse insulin and cause a rise in blood sugar.

For some reason, the medical community has focused treatment on reducing blood sugar and completely overlooked the excessive insulin hormone.

I have followed Dr. Fung's advice. To date I am down 60 lbs. I no longer take insulin and metformin and my blood sugar is somewhat controlled (sorry it is a journey and I am just not there yet). My sister is completely off all of her meds and is in control. My grandson went from an average of 80 units of insulin a day to 10 units.

Is there anyone out there who would like too discuss this issue?

a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

What kinds of foods, and how much/how many calories for each of the 6 meals?

Definitely, this is a topic of interest to me.

So what's the key? I have no doubt it is diet and what you eat when and how. Of course, I also believe everybody is different or has other variables as well.

But yes I'd love to discuss this further

Gonna sound crazy but I've become a huge believer in sauerkraut, Kimchi, and other fermented vegetables. Just a small cup full a day really seems to help.

I lost over 50 lbs in less than 6 months..

a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

I watched some of his presentations about a year ago and started to incorporate intermittent fasting in my diet along with a low carb diet.

I went from diabetic on metformin to no meds and out of diabetic range in 6 months. I had just been diagnosed a few months before so I'm not sure it would be that fast for those with higher insulin resistance, but it certainly worked. He described the insulin resistance the same way as alcohol tolerance, which made it click for me. You stop the insulin response through fasting and your body loses that tolerance.

It's pretty much the cure for most type 2 diabetics. Unfortunately it's not something I've ever heard from a medical provider, in fact my doctor asked me how I did it. It takes some personal responsibility to work so it will likely never catch on, but it should.

Congrats for finding this and getting well! Spread it to anybody that will listen.

a reply to: tinker9917

Tinker9917 Reply

I have never seen any dietician or nutritionist who actually specifices the calories or size of each mean.

Dr. Fung's point is that eating 6 times per day is too much. Each "snack" and I don't care if it is just rubbing gravy on your gums, stimulates the releases of insulin. Too much insulin causes the body to store fat and in some people, he believes that it causes Type II diabetes.

His point was that before the be obesity crisis started, People ate 3 times a day. Breakfast, lunch and dinner. Insulin levels had the chance to return to normal.

Now we eat and snack all day long, right up to bedtime. Insulin levels never return to normal.

He recommends intermittant fasting. Once kind for obese people who just wish too lose wieght and another for diabetics.

a reply to: putnam6

Reply to putnam6

The key is a low carb diet (not keto). None of the big four carbs: Bread, rice, potatoes and pasta. Natural fats, moderate protein

AND

Intermittant fasting.

I need to know if you are overweight or diabetic

a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

My ex-father-in-law did this with the same results. No more meds, lost a lot of weight and seems to have no more issues with Type 2 at all.

a reply to: Ksihkehe

Reply to Ksihkehe

It is so darn exciting!!! It is amazing.

I have been a diabetic for 40 years. Can you even comprehend what it is like to have a piece of cake and somebody's birthday and watch my blood sugar return to normal without medication. Yes I take longer than normal people but like I say, its a process. Its not magic.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Reply to Vasa Croe

thank you for providing your experience with this. Diabetics need to know, Overwieght people need to know!

And to those who make fun of fat people and say that it can't ALL be of hormonal origin: go away you morons, it sure can ALL be hormonal

originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Reply to Vasa Croe

thank you for providing your experience with this. Diabetics need to know, Overwieght people need to know!

And to those who make fun of fat people and say that it can't ALL be of hormonal origin: go away you morons, it sure can ALL be hormonal

It kinda blew his mind. Sure it took a lot of change in dietary/eating habits but seems to be totally worth it.

originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: putnam6

Reply to putnam6

The key is a low carb diet (not keto). None of the big four carbs: Bread, rice, potatoes and pasta. Natural fats, moderate protein

AND

Intermittant fasting.

I need to know if you are overweight or diabetic

Overweight, prediabetic already stay away from bread rice and potatoes will have lentil or chickpea pasta occasionally. Still, monitor my blood sugar and so far it's been well within normal range. (the last 2 weeks)

a reply to: putnam6

Sorry to reply again putnam6.

I see absolutely no problem with fermented foods. I make homemade kefir myself. I drink a cup everyday that I am not fasting.

So many of us are constipated from eating grains.

a reply to: putnam6

Then you are already doing well. Have you switched to natural fats? Olive oil, avocado oil, animal fats and bacon grease? Stay away from plant based oils. They are chemicially rendered and hard to digest.

Don't worry about calories. When you eat, eat well.

Now I invite you think about intermiittant fasting. Most people start by limiting their eating to two or three meals per day but they stop eating after supper (at least 3 hours before bedtime) and start delaying breakfast. So if you breakfast is 8, delay until 9 and so on until you are fasting from say 7:00 to 11:00. That is a 16 hour fast.

Try that and when can fast 16:00 per day without any discomfort at all, talk to me again.

a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

You know, I really should not be giving medical advice. You are all welcome to buy the books you need on Amazon

The Obesity Code by Dr. Jason Fung
The Diabetes Code by Dr. Jason Fung

Also there is a multitude of videos by Dr. Jason Fung on Youtube.

originally posted by: putnam6
Definitely, this is a topic of interest to me.

So what's the key? I have no doubt it is diet and what you eat when and how. Of course, I also believe everybody is different or has other variables as well.

But yes I'd love to discuss this further

Gonna sound crazy but I've become a huge believer in sauerkraut, Kimchi, and other fermented vegetables. Just a small cup full a day really seems to help.

I lost over 50 lbs in less than 6 months..

Ever eat Natto? Fermented soy beans....super tasty, but strong flavor. I love that stuff!

Please keep replying, LOL found out about fermented veggies and saurkraut benefits here on ATS. Its good to discuss and learn new ideas

a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks



What is his solution to excessive insulin hormone?

originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: putnam6

Then you are already doing well. Have you switched to natural fats? Olive oil, avocado oil, animal fats and bacon grease? Stay away from plant based oils. They are chemicially rendered and hard to digest.

Don't worry about calories. When you eat, eat well.

Now I invite you think about intermiittant fasting. Most people start by limiting their eating to two or three meals per day but they stop eating after supper (at least 3 hours before bedtime) and start delaying breakfast. So if you breakfast is 8, delay until 9 and so on until you are fasting from say 7:00 to 11:00. That is a 16 hour fast.

Try that and when can fast 16:00 per day without any discomfort at all, talk to me again.

Thanks, I will, I've done 2-3 fasts in the past and have heard the benefits of intermittent fasting.

Don't worry about giving info on medical advice here, most here use it to explore further I have used so many ideas found here on ATS over the years.

Ill check out Fung's stuff and try to do this.

a reply to: Alien Abduct

reply to Alien Abduct

OK you have now asked the million dollar question!!!

Answer: A pattern of intermittent fasting that goes 36 hour (day and half) followed by 24 hours of eating a very strict low carb diet. Emphasis veggies (large salad every day) and every meal to have veggies.

Obviously if you try to jump in and do it fast....you will fail!

Try just cutting out the big four (bread, pasta, rice and potatoes)) also cut out dairy. See how far that gets you. Do not cut out meds until you consult with a doctor.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: putnam6
Definitely, this is a topic of interest to me.

So what's the key? I have no doubt it is diet and what you eat when and how. Of course, I also believe everybody is different or has other variables as well.

But yes I'd love to discuss this further

Gonna sound crazy but I've become a huge believer in sauerkraut, Kimchi, and other fermented vegetables. Just a small cup full a day really seems to help.

I lost over 50 lbs in less than 6 months..

Ever eat Natto? Fermented soy beans....super tasty, but strong flavor. I love that stuff!

Ill have to give it a try , sounds like something that might be hard to find, HMart maybe?