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Falcon Lake encounter VS. KGB UFO files

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posted on Jul, 5 2021 @ 09:21 PM
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Most are probably familiar with both. In truth this subject is what drew me to ATS as a kid, when the site was almost all UFO stuff. I have had a couple sightings and experiences I may write about later, but what really interested me in the subject was these two images.

Stefan Michelak was burned by a UFO he encountered while prospecting in Canada. The burn pattern is basically a rectangle of circles on his stomach area. When I saw an episode of Unsolved Mysteries featuring his story as a kid, I took note of the burn pattern. A short while after seeing this episode of unsolved mysteries, I watched KGB UFO files and I saw footage of a supposed saucer crash which I will post a photo of here, along with a photo of Stefan Michelak's burn marks.

I believe the rectangular pattern of "dots" or holes on the "crashed craft" in the KGB UFO Files movie very closely matches Stefan Michelak's burn pattern.

What do you guys think?

KGB UFO FILES:

STEFAN MICHELAK:



posted on Jul, 5 2021 @ 09:26 PM
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Is that BigFoot in the first image?



posted on Jul, 5 2021 @ 09:30 PM
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a reply to: MRinder

Haha no it is supposedly a Russian person inspecting this "UFO" but if you enlarge the thumbnail you'll see the two rectangular areas of dots on the saucer that are similar to the burns.



posted on Jul, 5 2021 @ 09:32 PM
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a reply to: Chalcedony

Oh yeah I see them now and they do look similar. It makes more sense since I opened the photos.

If that's a ufo, it's awfully small. Those aliens would have to be teeny tiny.

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posted on Jul, 5 2021 @ 09:34 PM
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a reply to: Chalcedony




I have had a couple sightings and experiences


Iā€™m more interested in this šŸ”



posted on Jul, 5 2021 @ 10:14 PM
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a reply to: KKLOCO

I saw a cube shaped UFO in broad daylight, blue skies, I'm not an aviation expert but I lived in the flight path of an airport and I know this object was much higher than an object taking off or coming in for landing. It was moving at a moderate pace though not extremely fast. It had a mirrored finish to it and was almost invisible until it came close to a cloud which it reflected just like a mirror. It changed shape into almost like the letter E but missing it's middle bar. This object was almost invisible against the blue sky. I encountered a female being which is a very long story and I'm at work but I will make another comment about that later. I have seen the highly reflective cube three times, in broad daylight and also at dusk in different locations in the midwest. I saw a craft shaped like the letter L upside down which was an extremely dingy metallic color and very large and this was also in broad daylight. I have seen no evidence of a means of propulsion or jet or anything to prove how these things propel themselves.



posted on Jul, 6 2021 @ 02:19 AM
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originally posted by: MRinder
a reply to: Chalcedony

Oh yeah I see them now and they do look similar. It makes more sense since I opened the photos.

If that's a ufo, it's awfully small. Those aliens would have to be teeny tiny.


It may be just a probe that doesn't contain aliens.



posted on Jul, 6 2021 @ 04:22 AM
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a reply to: Chalcedony




posted on Jul, 6 2021 @ 04:42 AM
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a reply to: Chalcedony

The pattern of holes is on the top of the ufo in the film. Or could be the bottom.

So did Stefan Michelak get his from standing on top of a ufo? Or right underneath?. And bending over in a way that the pattern could be left on him.?

Ive read his story but cant remember where he said he was when the pattern happened on him
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posted on Jul, 6 2021 @ 04:54 AM
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The Secret KGB UFO Files was a spoof documentary. A bit like the Mermaids hoax from a few years ago.



How does a disc shaped object like that not damage any of the tree line and land at such an angle? Later on there's even footage supposedly taken from a Russian MIG but showing the cockput of a US fighter.

As for what burned Michelak. I think the jury is still out on that one.



posted on Jul, 6 2021 @ 06:02 AM
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a reply to: Chalcedony

IF? the controversial image is real and there is still debate about it as it may be a fake produced by the KGB for disinformation purposes there is no real definition of what that object is.

Thing's other than a UFO that it COULD be, a radar dish of some kind perhaps fallen from a Soviet experiment, an experiment into exotic airframe technology gone wrong so ET need not apply but of course then there are the claims that not only was it a UFO but that there were dead, small aliens or no humans.

Soldier standing next to a potentially biohazardous object, guess he spent his holiday in a gulag somewhere or accidentally stepped into a soviet incinerator at some point.

But you make a great observation, the grid pattern if it is a flying object is probably some form of venting system for propulsion or some other purpose but it does have great similarity to the pattern of circles on that guy's stomach.

I personally am open to that image being genuine but given how good fakers have gotten and the fact that both the US and Soviet Union used the UFO phenomena as a smoke screen to cover there own exotic aircraft development's it could also be fake perhaps even disinformation and I believe that is actually a very good possibility.

Given the interest in that image however someone on this site at least in the past has almost definitely done an in depth article on the image, hopefully someone far more in the know will remember a thread and link it.

And for what it is worth, whatever did that to that man I believe his story, the question then becomes was it Aliens or a secret test on a random civilian by some nefarious agency.


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posted on Jul, 6 2021 @ 06:10 AM
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a reply to: mirageman

Right so cleared up, of course had it been real the technology and materials would likely be stronger than we use and real UFO's have been seen flying through solid rock as if they are not even physical objects and even into the ground leaving no damage or soil or rock disturbance making them perhaps more like Ghosts than real objects in some cases but in others they have shown actual physical affects, left impressions on the ground at alleged landing sites and even left dead zones were nothing would grow even if there was no radiation among other physical traces.

I am of the opinion if Roswell was real then it was a plant of technology, a deliberate act giving humanity technology rather than an accident but who knows, certainly UFO's have a very long history on earth with cave paintings of them and beings that appear to look exactly like contemporary accounts of Grey's and historical account's such as Alexander the greats fiery shields.

As for VICTIMS of UFO's this is one of the more unpleasant encounters (aside from the human mutilations which have been suppressed from the media).


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posted on Jul, 6 2021 @ 07:11 AM
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The markings on the alleged disk and the burn victim do resemble one another.

But I had heard about Mr. Michelak's case.

Check out the hand drawn sketch of the craft Mr. Michelak helped provide.

The grid patterns in the sketch don't line up cleanly with the object from the photo from Russia.

I think these the grid patterns from the Michelak case and the Russian photo are just coincidence and not related.
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posted on Jul, 6 2021 @ 07:33 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

Not sure what you are rambling on about there.

The Secret KGB UFO Files was a spoof documentary.

Here's just one link : Link .



posted on Jul, 6 2021 @ 01:21 PM
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a reply to: SecretKnowledge

It had landed and when he approached it, the door opened. Heres a quote from ufo.fandom.com...

"When Michalak looked into the craft through an open door, he expected to see a team of U.S. military pilots. But instead, he saw little more than a panel of blinking lights before the door closed. The craft then rotated and a grid-like pattern of tiny holes in the ship's exterior sprayed his abdomen with scorching-hot gas."



posted on Jul, 6 2021 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

Oh yeah. I don't know or have an opinion really one way or another whether it is real or not. I just noticed what I thought was similarities in the story and the movie so I thought I would share it. Michelak definitely got burned by something. What it was is the mystery. I feel like the subject of UFO/Aliens is very nebulous so anything that maybe provides corroboration of someone's story should be looked into.



posted on Jul, 7 2021 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: Chalcedony

Opinions are like sails on a ship, if your opinion is fixed it will drag you onto the rocks in a storm but if you have a flexible opinion and only the masts are fixed you can tack to the wind more effectively and furl and unfurl your opinions in a changeable manner to suit the situation.

We all have opinions, ideas and thought's, we all learn and even unlearn things as we go through life but it is not only the rocks and shoals and shallows of debate, conspiracy or otherwise and indeed Life itself that we have to watch out for but were our own opinion's may lead us.

Knowing the self is the hardest of all things and no matter how much we may think we do, well do any of us really know ourselves?.



posted on Jul, 7 2021 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: Chalcedony


Well one is truly intriguing.. and the other not so much.


Don't know if you've seen it but thought Chris Rutkowski brought up some really interesting points about the Michelak case (and the initial RCMP investigation) in this interview with the late Timothy Green Beckley.



See 26:20







posted on Jul, 7 2021 @ 03:12 PM
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originally posted by: Chalcedony
What do you guys think?

KGB UFO FILES:

STEFAN MICHELAK:

I think I never liked the footage of the Russian UFO partially buried in the ground because I find it unlikely that dirt and leaves would build up around the base of the thing in that way, rather than producing a crater from the force strong enough to drive it into the ground. Also the way the trees seem to be undisturbed along the path the object would have been careening toward the ground. But I'm a stickler.



posted on Jul, 7 2021 @ 03:18 PM
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originally posted by: Chalcedony
a reply to: SecretKnowledge

It had landed and when he approached it, the door opened. Heres a quote from ufo.fandom.com...

"When Michalak looked into the craft through an open door, he expected to see a team of U.S. military pilots. But instead, he saw little more than a panel of blinking lights before the door closed. The craft then rotated and a grid-like pattern of tiny holes in the ship's exterior sprayed his abdomen with scorching-hot gas."

Yes. It was big enough for him to look into, and for him to expect people to be in it.

Actually, it must be said that his drawing makes it look a lot more like a Billy Meier beamship.




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