SPACE X Transporter 2 launch scrubbed at T Minus 10 seconds

Space X Transporter 2 Launch was scrubbed at T Minus 10 seconds do to aircraft intruding into the restricted airspace around the launch

Transporter 2 was supposed to launch 88 small satellites on a Falcon 9 ride share

The launch was postponed from June 26 to today (June 29) Launch will have to recycled for attempt in near future

As for the idiot pilot - He is in deep excrement

FAA will probably pull his ticket for this stunt

a reply to: firerescue

Yep! Was watching... not pleased with that pilot!

Well, there's tomorrow

Edit: little more context.
www.space.com...

"Unfortunately, launch is called off for today, as an aircraft entered the 'keep out zone,' which is unreasonably gigantic," Musk wrote on Twitter in an apparent lament about the restrictive regulations for launch range safety. "There is simply no way that humanity can become a spacefaring civilization without major regulatory reform. The current regulatory system is broken."

How about we cancel the whole "going to space" business until we figure out how to be a functional type 1 civilization that doesn't set its own planet on fire and constantly pollute the only air/water we have. Less war and more renewable energy and sustainable development would be great too. Mars can wait until we've checked all those boxes.

Well, seeing this in the safety category, it is nice to see that we have a handle on airspace violations like this. The pilot of whatever crossed into that red zone could be sued by the FAA as well as lose a license, as long as he was not cleared to fly through there by another ATC, in which that person could lose a job for sure.

a reply to: TzarChasm

Thing there is colonisation and industrialisation of low Earth orbit will probably help enable our transition to a type 1 civilization.

As to Mars, everything there including traveling there, the atmosphere, soil, dust, and radiation is deadly.

Probably better to try the Moon first given its proximity, relatively short travel time to get there, and abundance of titanium and helium 3, even water.

Totally agree on the less war and more renewable sustainable energy sources.

Wish they would stop cluttering the sky with satellites till they figure out how to stop mucking up the view of the stars.

I am not looking up to see man made objects!

originally posted by: TzarChasm
How about we cancel the whole "going to space" business until we figure out how to be a functional type 1 civilization that doesn't set its own planet on fire and constantly pollute the only air/water we have. Less war and more renewable energy and sustainable development would be great too. Mars can wait until we've checked all those boxes.

I always laugh at this type of comment....
Every dollar we spend on going into/space research benefits all of humanity 10x in the inevitable research advances. Microwaves/memory foam etc.

If we ratcheted up NASAs budget we would all come out on top and we can hopefully fix our issues here by solving the challenges out there.

a reply to: TzarChasm

You've got my vote. All the money thrown to these space companies yet look at cities like San Fran, Portland, and Seattle.

Priorities.

a reply to: Skyhigh00

So putting satellites in space will end homelessness, drug abuse, gun violence in inner cities, repair our infrastructure, lower costs of tuition, finally cure a disease....I had no idea.

Then I say this.

a reply to: EdisonintheFM

Well if we had more people like you, would still be in caves looking at the shadows on the wall. I mean you want to go outside while ohg can't even get making fire right, we should fix the cave problems first.

We go to space because we can, colonizing space, which is a by product of that, on the other hand does provide for less people living on Earth which can be used to reduce the homeless issue.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
How about we cancel the whole "going to space" business until we figure out how to be a functional type 1 civilization that doesn't set its own planet on fire and constantly pollute the only air/water we have. Less war and more renewable energy and sustainable development would be great too. Mars can wait until we've checked all those boxes.

So you are ***PRIVATE*** billionaire that can do this?

originally posted by: Skyhigh00

originally posted by: TzarChasm
How about we cancel the whole "going to space" business until we figure out how to be a functional type 1 civilization that doesn't set its own planet on fire and constantly pollute the only air/water we have. Less war and more renewable energy and sustainable development would be great too. Mars can wait until we've checked all those boxes.

I always laugh at this type of comment....
Every dollar we spend on going into/space research benefits all of humanity 10x in the inevitable research advances. Microwaves/memory foam etc.

If we ratcheted up NASAs budget we would all come out on top and we can hopefully fix our issues here by solving the challenges out there.

I agree 100%. Seems odd that anyone would oppose, of all things, space science?

I guess "progressives" don't want new frontiers opening up for exploration and settlement, not before they've finished yoking up and indoctrinating /this/ world's population.

The party of science indeed!

a reply to: EdisonintheFM

Homelessness will never end unless you kill a portion of the population, that portion being the ones that have no desire to not be homeless. Drug abuse? Easy, legalize all of it and let the idiots who become addicts die off naturally. Gun violence in the inner cities? Gun violence in the inner cities, easy enough, enable the police to do what needs done. No BLM marches for a jackass being shot that quite frankly deserves it. Infrastructure I'm fairly sure the government is trying to pass a spending bill on that. Tuition costs would take care of themselves if we streamlined the degree process by removing BS degrees completely, now the only people that would have a degree would be those that could pay for it with the job they get from the degree. Curing disease needs a full on revamp of the pharmaceutical industry as there is no money to be made in cures, only prolonging the problem.

Every single one of these issues you listed have nothing to do with a private citizen starting his own company and trying to get to Mars. Why should he, Jeff Bezos, Richard Branson, or anyone else who is trying to get to space be responsible for the issues that for the most part the government has created?

a reply to: firerescue

I don't mind the scrub. I should be able to get up there for it tomorrow, couldn't make it today. Very least I'll make it over to the beach and watch it go overhead.

As for the pilot? Has anyone established which plane it was that violated the TFR? He'd be a bit in the clear if routed there by ATC. Just passes the buck for who gets the crap though.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
How about we cancel the whole "going to space" business until we figure out how to be a functional type 1 civilization that doesn't set its own planet on fire and constantly pollute the only air/water we have. Less war and more renewable energy and sustainable development would be great too. Mars can wait until we've checked all those boxes.

Speak for yourself. Knock yourself out and get to it, stop bitching. I'm more than happy to cheer on the folks able to look further than the tip of their noses instead of capitulating to whine-asses who can't fix what they themselves bitch about in the first place. DIY, people, or STFU. Stop demanding others lift fingers for you, you ain't too good for it.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
How about we cancel the whole "going to space" business until we figure out how to be a functional type 1 civilization that doesn't set its own planet on fire and constantly pollute the only air/water we have. Less war and more renewable energy and sustainable development would be great too. Mars can wait until we've checked all those boxes.

Ummm…how about you sit down and STFU…

How is it that your always on the opposite side of reason and logic…?

Wait until we become a type one civilization…and when exactly is that going to occur…100,000 years…10,000,000…?

We’re a warrior species…territorial…lactating…mammalian…animals…to be quite precise…

Your insufferable dreams of enlightened rhetoric are simply mind boggling…and infinitely narrow minded…


The resources that humanity needs to lift itself out of dependance on limited…volatile earthbound resources…are up the gravity well…out there in the asteroid belt and the other planets and cometary bodies we share this system with…that’s where our future lies…

Not down on the only rock we currently inhabit…waiting on some naval gazing kumbaya gnostic fantasy…to uplift us into utopic splendor…


WOW…the perennial contrarian…again…rears it’s ugly head…

Too effing unreal…





YouSir

originally posted by: EdisonintheFM
a reply to: Skyhigh00

So putting satellites in space will end homelessness, drug abuse, gun violence in inner cities, repair our infrastructure, lower costs of tuition, finally cure a disease....I had no idea.

Then I say this.

Ummm…another genius is heard from…

Have you ever considered that people are drug abusers and homeless…because that’s what they choose to be…?

Sorry…I’ve been that route…did the volunteer in the shelters…lived among them…broke my bread with them…
And not many moved on from their fringe lifestyle…

The majority are there because they chose that lifestyle…

When does it become incumbent on the individual to outgrow their penchant for self destructive behavior…?

It’s not something you can force down somebodies throat…they have to accept that challenge…stop defecating on the sidewalk and for gods sake…just take a shower…

The fringe actually like to punish themselves…they steep their days in guilt and self hatred…then try to cover that scab with cheep hooch and escapism…


Consider…that the majority of gun violence wears two faces…the gang banger…and the mentally ill…


So hit me with your solution to these societal extremes…that have frankly been with society since society has been…
And will always be there…for those that choose to exist on the fringes of culture and social dynamic…


How you going to fix that situation by choice…remove the individuals right to choose…?

I did at least try…until a cynical dose of realism taught me lessons of value…that the soul or heart burns out from emoting…and empathy…

Empathy is a curse…that withers the sufferer…all on the inside…








YouSir