Can we put racism to bed now?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

That's up there with Japanese prisoner of war camp crap if we are honest.

I don't think i ever seen any of them to have been physically abused, but the undertone was there, could be felt, certainly tension in the air, if they though they were going to have bad marks.

Where as we were more interested in freshers week, student unions, pubs and clubs at uni, well i was anyroad.

a reply to: andy06shake

Too right on British people of Asian descent mate and until one sees them revising in non pre exam periods until mid night gone every night and never sees them socialising one sees into a very different society being educated in the UK. Good I some ways bad in others and it makes one wonder if the old servant in colonial days in a few decades here will become the master lol! Funny thought really be interesting by 2050 if all the whites and Caibbeans are living in ghettos and Asian Brits dominate the suburbs yet the way it's going it's on the cards and in some ways they deserve it through their hard work

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Well, I think you're confusing some things related to culture and class here. You've chosen an interesting (perhaps unintentional) way to do it too!

I've worked for years with both Muslim and Indian cultures, in Asia, in a former British Colony to boot, so I speak from experience.

On the one hand you have Sikh's who have built nearly their entire culture around money and they've been quite successful at it too. If your name is "Singh" your family heritage demands you will go work in the financial world, in one form or another. So, is this culture, or class? On the other hand, common Muslims, even in British culture, do not place the same emphasis on money. However, I would put forth they are even more family oriented than the Indian culture. Consequently, they generally reside in a different class than the Singh's of the world. So, once again, is this class or culture?

I would argue it's a little bit of both.

and that's exactly what I'm trying to state Flyingclaydisc but Augustus can't see it for some reason................ Must be cultural differences

a reply to: lakenheath24

If only we could but in the UK the Left wing (or actually the Alternative left who took over the labour party) whom used to be for the people of the country are these days very sadly and disgustingly RACIST against the majority of the population whom are white.

Under Blair's government it was sadly a case of DELIBERATE policy against the - mostly labour voting - white population of this country that created the term PRO-Discrimination, this made it a legal obligation for employers when faced with two equally qualified applicants for a job or internal company promotion to actually have to discriminate against the white British applicant in favour of the Non White or other minority applicant.

This in turn made many formerly ANTI racist ordinary people LEARN to become racist as they were now receiving unfair treatment after this policy slowly filtered into society.

For Generations now promoting the education of minority and non British ethnic children with millions of pound's every year of tax payers money over the education of the majority of OUR OWN children has also been a priority and once again we are now seeing these bitter seeds bearing ill fruit and turning people's stomach's, formerly anti racist's are now racist as a result of this knowing that the Academics taking over the nation are not now our children but the children of foreign migrant's and it is a lie to say it is solely down to those minority children's hard work when in fact Teachers have bent over backwards to ensure that the ethnic minority children have succeeded so that there school's got better ofstead (the government body that rank's schools based on there performance) reports.

Sadly the damage is done, years of anti racism has been switched to racism by the blind and actually RACIST supposed anti racist policy's of government, Sadly mostly former Labour Party voters have also switched off that party because it is over run by these twisted idealists that are actually racist against our own people.

So no we can't get rid of it, we just need to define or more accurately for what it really is.

Racism does exist, it always will and our own governments have for several decades now been racist against our own Ethnic British kid's - especially the poor ones.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

At least we get educated ufoorbhunter, even if we do have to pay for it, via Student Loans for the better part of our adult lives.

A load of places around the globe your chances of that are slim to none.

By 2050 pal most that generation will probably be somewhat darker skinned down to populations mixing and global warming.

Hopefully, by then in the UK, we will see differences in colour and creed become meaningless.

Be up the same to similar avenue as the daft arsed Catholic vs Protestant mentality that dominated our society for the better part of 500 years, meaning nobody in there right mind in 2050 gives a rats arse any longer.

Granted its probably a bit of a pipe dream but look how much the world has changed since the turn of the millennium.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Used to be that way, but the techno virus is infecting all children.

I have Asian friends and constituents, they are having the same problem with their children as the rest of America, and the world, is having.

Resistance to discipline, angry, recalcitrant, anhedonia, lackadaisical, aggression, and rejection, are so common among our youth, and it has spread across all of races, cultures, and classes.

We can thank the internet for making us a one world, global entity.

We chose our new God, and we bow our heads before it never ceasing.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
Used to be that way, but the techno virus is infecting all children.

According to the data in the Original Post there is still a huge disparity between Asians and non-Asians.

originally posted by: LABTECH767 Sadly the damage is done, years of anti racism has been switched to racism by the blind and actually RACIST supposed anti racist policy's of government, Sadly mostly former Labour Party voters have also switched off that party because it is over run by these twisted idealists that are actually racist against our own people.

So no we can't get rid of it, we just need to define or more accurately for what it really is.

Racism does exist, it always will and our own governments have for several decades now been racist against our own Ethnic British kid's - especially the poor ones.

I don't think it's actually the government mate at all it's actually the media where all this trouble lies. They are trying to model Britain now as a culture where whites aren't really acceptable anymore on the adverts, there is without doubt a concerted campaign by the media to give acting roles to ethnic minorities................ Then again do the big business ehind this sniff out where the money has gone and where the money is coming from when they advertise? I don't know yet the advertising world changed a few years ago and now it's pretty much 100% obligatory to have your ads in an ethnic setting.

The radio had a PHD female on a bit ago who studied this. She stated that the media had gone totally out of its way to portray young white males as at the bottom of society through programmes such as Shameless and this has led to young white lads expecting now to find themselves in this reality. Very interesting stuff how the media can create an educational and economic reality then you look at who controls the media behind the scenes and who knows whats going on out there

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Very good point but remember the Media in the UK are legislated to a great degree by the Government and Government guidelines, I would still blame Government for this.

Despite my dislike of the Tory's at least they are speaking the truth about this one matter and maybe it will get something done about it now but I would definitely not hold my breath as this bunch are big on statements and small on actions.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: ufoorbhunter


Hopefully, by then in the UK, we will see differences in colour and creed become meaningless.

Be up the same to similar avenue as the daft arsed Catholic vs Protestant mentality that dominated our society for the better part of 500 years, meaning nobody in there right mind in 2050 gives a rats arse any longer.

Granted its probably a bit of a pipe dream but look how much the world has changed since the turn of the millennium.

I really hope youre right mate and it's a terrible option if it goes the other way, thing is it's already ebbing that way with a whole swathe of young white lads becoming political, you see it everywhere all this blaming it on the foreigners bollox and neo Nazis everywhere in the media getting arrested.

The Tories really need to nip this in the bud or we'll be seeing Jo Cox style political exucution ten a penny in the years ahead and that acres the crap out of us in the middle of society. Jo Cox died due to this very thing and I fear so much for our country especially with outside forces for sure playing into this.

a reply to: lakenheath24
Unfortunately no, you can't put racism to bed, because it is useful to political parties and governments. If they can't get a class war off the ground to their satisfaction, they use an equally divisive ruse, which is racism.

The only thing necessary to resolve the vast majority of racism in the world is to expose those who perpetuate it day in and day out, and we all know who that is.

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Very good point but remember the Media in the UK are legislated to a great degree by the Government and Government guidelines, I would still blame Government for this.

Despite my dislike of the Tory's at least they are speaking the truth about this one matter and maybe it will get something done about it now but I would definitely not hold my breath as this bunch are big on statements and small on actions.

Then you've always got the other ways of looking at it Labs....................

Like who emigrates?

The best or bottom of society?

If it is the best that get into gear and move around and abroad to better themselves, does that mean Britain's best left a century or two ago for the America's Australia, RSA NZ, etc?

Then if the best migrate then the recent arrivals from the post Empire like India will find it no problem becoming dominant over here in the UK.................

Does that answer what the OP states as "poor Asian kids are around 60% and poor white kids are 16% likely to go to higher education" who knows but maybe just maybe it is something to do with it

a reply to: lakenheath24

You should tell that the Neo-Nazis. They need racism because its the only thing they are really good at.

„Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to physical appearance and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another. It may also mean prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against other people because they are of a different ethnicity.“

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
Used to be that way, but the techno virus is infecting all children.

According to the data in the Original Post there is still a huge disparity between Asians and non-Asians.

I am not disputing the disparity. There will always be one, because it is a herding tool that allows them control.

You will always have plain belly Sneetches being shunned by those with stars upon thars.

It is the methodology that is at play that makes each think they are different, that keeps us in our self constructed cages. We carry our talismans, and we communicate and connect, through the grace of our sky god, that keeps us all snared in its global web. It sees all, knows all, and controls all that you see and hear.

If it is not skin color, it will be hair color, or eye color, or intelligence, or a particular skill. We will always declare that we are different, yet demand that we are seen as the same.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
I am not disputing the disparity. There will always be one, because it is a herding tool that allows them control.

Encouraging your children to think about family and education is a 'herding tool'? I know I can be a bit cynical but this is way beyond where I go.

Right, it's mostly class, not race. There is some intersection.

That's what I can't stand about modern identity politics.

According to progressives today, a poor white kid with a single mother on drugs is through some mystical property, more privileged than Obama or Oprah. They don't allow for overlapping bell curves, with that kid being below successful people of color. Then, policies such as college admissions or employment hiring/promotions are based on such myopic, reductionist policies. I've personally seen some very privileged people of color get treated with preference in such environments over some white people, simply because of race not actual class or personal background.

originally posted by: lakenheath24
In a new report by UK ministers, poor white kids are far worse of in terms of getting into higher education, than any other ethnic group. As far as the numbers....poor Asian kids are around 60% and poor white kids are 16% likely to go to higher education.

This is what I and others have been saying for years. It aint race....its class. To further break it down, rural peeps got it even worse off than city peeps.
Its the same in the US I bet.
One minister goes so far as to as to say the term white privilidge should be abolished.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

www.independent.co.uk...

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: lakenheath24
....poor Asian kids are around 60% and poor white kids are 16% likely to go to higher education.

It aint race....its class.

That shows me that it is about ethnicity, which is a thing when it comes to how each one handles certain aspects of society. I suspect the numbers would be similar here being that Asian culture places a higher value on the family unit and education than most others.

Not surprising you see ethnicity first. Keep revealing yourself.

originally posted by: Neobucket
Not surprising you see ethnicity first. Keep revealing yourself.

It's literally in the data, Asians 60%+, non-Asians 10%+, quit your virtue signaling, I'm not interested.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Chances are i wont be right through ufoorbhunter and the Fourth Reich will be in full swing.

a reply to: lakenheath24

As per the current and ongoing covert indoctrination: You will do only as well as we tell you that you will.

If you're black, you will fail. No exceptions.
If you're asian, you will succeed. No exceptions, but with a slathering of hate garnered towards you.
It you're white, regardless if you fail or succeed, you're at fault for everything and you are the devil.

Learn it young, indoctrinate it. Get it into a full mindset for the future.

The America math team winners 2017.