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Why Do LGBTQ People Need Civil Rights Protections? - Their Sex History and Preferences are Private.

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posted on Jun, 20 2021 @ 10:32 PM
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Sunday, June 20, 2021 (Happy Father's Day!)

First, lets get this out of the way. Until composing this thread I didn't know what every letter in "LGBTQ" stood for. But I do now. For anyone else who doesn't know..

L = Lesbian
G = Gay
B = Both Sexes
T = Tranny
Q = Queer

Source: ok2bme.ca...


Now, let's get right to it..

The Democrat-controlled U.S. Senate wants to grant LGBTQ individuals "Civil Rights".

Washington Post — The long march toward equal rights for gay, lesbian and transgender Americans — whose advocates have eyed major advances with complete Democratic control in Washington — has run into a wall of opposition in the U.S. Senate.

While Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., hinted at a potential action this month — the annual LGBTQ Pride Month — Senate aides and advocates say there are no immediate plans to vote on the Equality Act, which would add sexual orientation and gender identity to the protected classes of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, alongside race, color, religion and national origin.

Sen. Tammy Baldwin, D-Wis., one of two openly gay senators, said she has quietly been lobbying Republican colleagues on the issue and there has been only “incremental progress,” though efforts are continuing.
Source: www.post-gazette.com... er/stories/202106200232

A potential employer does not ask if you used to be another sex. A transgendered person does not need to (and should not) tell him/her on the application.

A potential employer does not ask if you like Men, Women, Both, Animals, or No Sex. A person who falls into one of these categories does not need to (and should not) tell his/her orientation on the application.

I don't know anything about "Queer" people, in the modern sense of the word.

The big question in my mind is, WHY do LGBTQ individuals need "civil rights protections" any more than a male/female who was born that way, or a man or woman who is "straight"?

There is no reason why anyone has to know anything about your sex history, or preference(s). What is not known, cannot be discriminated against.

-CareWeMust

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(post by BlackArrow removed for a serious terms and conditions violation)

posted on Jun, 20 2021 @ 10:58 PM
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a reply to: BlackArrow

Isn't that why we have Health Directives and Power of Attorney?

Believe it or not, there are some straight people who choose to remain unmarried and do protect each other via these documents.

Not everyone in a relationship chooses to marry. Getting to be in the ER isn't a good enough reason to "tie the know"



posted on Jun, 20 2021 @ 11:00 PM
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a reply to: DontTreadOnMe
It's more then that. Example, the one lesbian was once married to a man. He had say over everything that happened to her. Despite them being seperates for over 20years. He had to drive his ass down to the ER and actually sign her partner of 20years in.

The law just did not recognize gay couples period. For anything, even picking up your partners kid from school was forbidden.

There is a lot of benefits and protections offered to recognized marriages. That even a lawyer or will can't touch. If she would of died, he would of gotten everything including their shared house. Despite not being together. He had the right to "choose" to pull the plug not her.

No lawyer would touch an unrecognized marriage with a 10foot pole in identifying who has final say when it comes to death. Especially since both her parents were long dead. (They were 60-70)

Let's ignore the entire adoption issues as well. To where leaving children in the system or dying in some warehouse(china) was better then letting a gay couple adopt. There's a lot of stupid #, that people who can get married take for granted.
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posted on Jun, 20 2021 @ 11:08 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Because it is about separation and identity politics. LGBT isn't as much about sexual preferences or equality under the law any longer, it is about an "Identity" and voting block which needs specific "rights" to legally squash anything that differs with the political views and causes supported by the leaders of said organizations. Any thought or action that differs with the views and narratives of these organizations will be considered hate speech or hate crimes and punishable under these laws.

Pretty easy to understand. Organizations with a cause never go away when they bring in millions of dollars and assemble political power. They simply keep moving the bar to the extreme and must constantly have a new cause and boogie man in order to maintain their money and power base.

Human nature.
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posted on Jun, 20 2021 @ 11:18 PM
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I'm not sure what civil rights refer in the US, but equal marriage equality was about the last right I championed, being gay.
Since then, (although it varies globally), I'm not sure what more civil rights we need?



posted on Jun, 20 2021 @ 11:40 PM
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First, the B stands for Bi-sexual.

Marriage is between a man and a women, with the main aim being having children.

Gay couples should obviously be able to live together as a legal couple.

As a straight guy, they should have the same protections in a relationship but why not have their own word to describe it.

Couplaz! They can all get Couplazed.

Straight people get married and the gay people get Couplazed.

The hidden agenda is that they want your children or at least they want to be able to foster and adopt children.

I have a major problem with that!

Before you say why not ... I will say, ask the children if they want to live in such a household.

Sadly, no one will ask the children in your welfare systems. No one. It is child abuse by the State.

That is where this is headed if it is not already there in some of your states.

P

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posted on Jun, 20 2021 @ 11:40 PM
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a reply to: carewemust




But I do now. For anyone else who doesn't know..


I think maybe you wanted to know Care.

Is that the reason why you posted this thread?


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posted on Jun, 21 2021 @ 12:06 AM
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a reply to: BlackArrow
Thank-you. Your post was educational and also thought-provoking. I'm still digesting it all.



posted on Jun, 21 2021 @ 12:09 AM
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a reply to: BlackArrow

Thanks again. I see the "protections" are not just employer related. I had no idea hospital visitations were now restricted to only legally recognized relatives.



posted on Jun, 21 2021 @ 12:15 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

Why is the Democrat-controlled Senate having such a hard time adding LGBTQ individuals to "protected minority" status?

Maybe they want to leave it up to individual states?

Here in Illinois, LGBTQ couples have the rights as every married couple, if they live together.



posted on Jun, 21 2021 @ 12:21 AM
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And there's silly me thinking that most of the citizenry (outside the porn industry) had given up on icky sex long ago.

Real sex with another person?
That's so 2012.

No, currently it's all about identities.
Which is strange, because I've never felt more comfortable in my male body.
Although it's the identity that's supposed to be negated or at least disheveled by all this.
I've never loved being "a man" more than I do now.

And that's what Jordan Peterson predicted, the more you push this "trans" and "non-binary" narrative, the more gender-typical people will become.

Isn't it ironic?
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posted on Jun, 21 2021 @ 12:42 AM
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originally posted by: halfoldman
I'm not sure what civil rights refer in the US, but equal marriage equality was about the last right I championed, being gay.
Since then, (although it varies globally), I'm not sure what more civil rights we need?

I've learned from input to this thread, quite a bit already.

Hopefully you can say the same at this point?

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posted on Jun, 21 2021 @ 12:51 AM
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a reply to: pheonix358

For the sake of children of same-sex couples, I hope other children, teachers, coaches, etc., are understanding and tolerant that both the parents are Male or Female or a Transgendered combo.

Today, I can't imagine what it would have been like for my Mom and Dad to be the same sex when I was in grade school or junior high (1970's)...attending my concerts....at Parent-teacher conferences....coming to my baseball games....etc..



posted on Jun, 21 2021 @ 01:01 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Always a privilege to be here.

Now the LGBTQI+community ... one second, let me just catch my breath, just pronouncing that is a work-out.

There's still a lot of homophobia, no doubt, and a lot of bad history, even contemporary bad history to remember (like US pastors going to places like Uganda and proposing the death sentence for gay people).

I'd say that kind of ridiculous behavior by some "right" figures certainly influenced the kind of "woke" over-reaction we see now.

They do say however if the US sneezes, the world catches a cold - it remains a very influential country.

So in that sense, perhaps drawing attention to queer liberties that sends out a message to those places where we do still face arrest, torture and the death sentence.

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posted on Jun, 21 2021 @ 04:15 AM
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You don't have to be queer to be treated like a hated dog in some countries. Being a woman is enough. We are being kept like animals, raped daily when trying to do farm work, trafficked for sex, beaten, mutilated genitally, and organ harvested or just killed for fun.
Nobody cares.
It's only women...

ETA: we are sold off for marriage and oftenin those countries receive the deayh penalty, like when raped by males or when we just happen to love someone else but the husband that was forced upon them.
But lets first concentrate on fringe groups to sort out injustices. Again, who cares about women,eh?



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posted on Jun, 21 2021 @ 04:30 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

If gender identity is protected, and also a social construct that does not actually exist and we just create it, does that not mean we would need to remember and adhere to every gender created which could potentially number in the millions, and be held liable if we don't?



posted on Jun, 21 2021 @ 04:39 AM
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a reply to: Hecate666



LGBTQ ????

Shouldn't there be a *W* in there somewhere too?

The *W* is always the last bastion!



posted on Jun, 21 2021 @ 04:51 AM
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a reply to: eletheia

OK, henceforth we shall be known as the Lesbian; Gay; Bisexual; Transgender and Wookiee association.

LGBT+W.



posted on Jun, 21 2021 @ 04:58 AM
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originally posted by: halfoldman
a reply to: eletheia

OK, henceforth we shall be known as the Lesbian; Gay; Bisexual; Transgender and Wookiee association.

LGBT+W.


LGBTQ+WW ?

Women and Woke?

Nah! lets scrap the lot and just be people.......



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