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originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: wtbengineer
In many of these cases, a recurring theme is, "Something strange is going on" Said by the deceased. Or when a person was going to call another but never did, in fact, they just thought about doing so. But the person receives a phone call along with the static. But the caller later claims they never phoned which can be proven as their log shows they did not.Which at some level suggests that the mind is creating these effects whether we are alive or dead, which is a bit of a misnomer as the point of the statement being that we think we are alive. Also when one person dreams he is making a phone call to another person, and again they say they have received one along with the static. Perhaps what we perceive as phones are just props, which work as intended because logic and science have convinced us mentally that they should work, like the placebo effects of the medicine.
The phone in a lucid dream is part of that reality, and if it can be used to contact someone in this supposed waking reality, then it's starting to look that this reality is made of the same stuff. No matter how hard you try you can't shut your eyes and create in your mind's eye, the steady complete reality that is produced in the dream state, something else must be producing it. Mabey you but at some stage, the environment exists as a separate entity, it has to because is observational. So we have a person in a dream state ,with a dream phone, contacting what we think is a person in the awake state receiving the phone call, doesn't it suggest that both are likely in a dream state. Which might be interesting as without a good nights sleep, what we percieve as waking reality steadily breaks apart, so does this sleep produces what we call reality.? That is we sleep so we can dream the day? a bit off topic but I am trying to extropulate what logicaly may be occuring. From the repeated observations.
originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: bloodymarvelous
When you look at all the people that disappear each year in the USA, it's estimated to be fifteen thousand a year. Those are the people who can't be accounted for after the kidnappings murders etc are calculated. They all went somewhere if it was a time slip, wouldn't some show up popping into existence, and end up walking home say ten years back into their old home and encounter themselves. This would cause all manner of problems. But this reality is a memory of an event that has already occurred. It is already a recording either stored in your head or accessed at some level by a group memory storage unit. So for something weird and not logical to have happened it could have just as easily been an extra bit of information added to that recording, say if you lost your life in a car crash, and then had the memory of the crash removed and information inserted that it was a near miss. To an observer, you are dead and gone. Their memory stream is different from yours, and you have exited each other's reality. That would put a different take on what reality is, but either way, it still has to appear coherent and not chaotic and in a linear pattern or the narrative wouldn't work. Just like if you get killed in a dream, so you get out of it by changing realities.
originally posted by: bloodymarvelous
If matter/energy can grow infinitely, then we should see it happen sometimes in nature. Either that, or there would need to be some iron clad physical law that prevents energy/matter from bleeding across from other dimensions.
If there is no solid barrier preventing it from bleeding across, then we should expect to see working perpetual energy machines that tap into that effect.
If there is one, then for all intents and purposes the other dimensions might as well not exist, because there is no way to cross.
But if matter and energy is a conserved value, even when dealing with multiple dimensions, then sometimes things would bleed through naturally, as a sort of convergence.
Maybe Lockness Lake is actually located on a dimensional intersection, to a dimension where the dinosaurs didn't die out yet. In which case, "lockness monsters" are just occasionally straying into our dimension, getting seen by tourists, and then blinking back.