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originally posted by: LordAhriman
Again, 3 family members got really sick from it. 3. Why is that so hard to believe?
originally posted by: Mantiss2021
So how do you explain the millions, like myself, who have received the vaccine, but who have suffered NO side effects (just to note, I've had a complete physical, my annual check-up actually, since receiving my second dose) other than the expected mild reactions, which in my case, lasted less than 48 hours?
Either I got the "good stuff", while all your "horror stories" were "targeted" with an arm-load of "poison"; or they got the real vaccine, and I got...something else.
By an extension of your "reasoning", some of us have been selected to thrive, and some to wither.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: myselfaswell
a reply to: 727Sky
Yeah the J&J Vaccine isn't available in Australia you filthy lying anti-vaxing bio-terrorist .....
Anyway some good news about the Pfizer is that it seems only about 25% of it stays at the injection site. But we knew that happens cause ... they ..... were .... tested .... in .... the ... proper ..... clinical .... trials ..... right ? WRONG, they weren't.
And we all know what happens now don't we ...... WRONG AGAIN ..... no ones got the slightest # idea, LOL.
I mean seriously, the guy who invented mRNA even wrote to the FDA about it ages ago telling them this was a bad idea. Maybe he'll end up dead like Kary Mullis.
None of an mRNA vaccine leaves the injection site.
The process of producing the protein within the cell where it is injected destroys the mRNA. The code is destroyed in the reading. It also doesn't last very long in chemical integrity, which is why the vaccines must be frozen at super low temperatures like -80 just to keep it viable. Within 45 minutes, once thawed, the mRNA is totally degraded. This includes inside the body.
And once the spike protein is produced, it is then targeted by antibodies and T-cells, and so it is destroyed by the immune response it trains. All that is left is the primed immune response - no mRNA or spike protein remains.
With other inactivated whole virus, or protein vector, or viral vector vaccines, they last a bit longer in the body, but are still essentially destroyed, leaving only the trained immune responses.
originally posted by: zosimov
a reply to: glen200376
Agreed, I was pretty chilled by reading that comment. I imagine one may get fairly inured to suffering in such a profession, and that some emts may lack empathy, but gloating about having the power of life or death over another person (and a beloved member of our community, at that) is awful
originally posted by: Mantiss2021
So how do you explain the millions, like myself, who have received the vaccine, but who have suffered NO side effects (just to note, I've had a complete physical, my annual check-up actually, since receiving my second dose) other than the expected mild reactions, which in my case, lasted less than 48 hours?
Either I got the "good stuff", while all your "horror stories" were "targeted" with an arm-load of "poison"; or they got the real vaccine, and I got...something else.
By an extension of your "reasoning", some of us have been selected to thrive, and some to wither.
originally posted by: LordAhriman
What are you trying to say here? I'm quite healthy and very active. People guess me about 10 years younger than my age.
Dr Pierre Gilbert in 1995: "In the biological destruction there are the organized tempests on the magnetic fields. What will follow is a contamination of the bloodstreams of mankind, creating intentional infections. This will be enforced via laws that will make vaccination mandatory. And these vaccines will make possible to control people.
The vaccines will have liquid crystals that will become hosted in the brain cells, which will become micro-receivers of electromagnetic fields where waves of very low frequencies will be sent. And through these low frequency waves people will be unable to think, you’ll be turned into a zombie. Don’t think of this as a hypothesis. This has been done. Think of Rwanda" This is also interesting: virus sized transistors www.harvardmagazine.com...
originally posted by: Dalamax
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: myselfaswell
a reply to: 727Sky
Yeah the J&J Vaccine isn't available in Australia you filthy lying anti-vaxing bio-terrorist .....
Anyway some good news about the Pfizer is that it seems only about 25% of it stays at the injection site. But we knew that happens cause ... they ..... were .... tested .... in .... the ... proper ..... clinical .... trials ..... right ? WRONG, they weren't.
And we all know what happens now don't we ...... WRONG AGAIN ..... no ones got the slightest # idea, LOL.
I mean seriously, the guy who invented mRNA even wrote to the FDA about it ages ago telling them this was a bad idea. Maybe he'll end up dead like Kary Mullis.
None of an mRNA vaccine leaves the injection site.
The process of producing the protein within the cell where it is injected destroys the mRNA. The code is destroyed in the reading. It also doesn't last very long in chemical integrity, which is why the vaccines must be frozen at super low temperatures like -80 just to keep it viable. Within 45 minutes, once thawed, the mRNA is totally degraded. This includes inside the body.
And once the spike protein is produced, it is then targeted by antibodies and T-cells, and so it is destroyed by the immune response it trains. All that is left is the primed immune response - no mRNA or spike protein remains.
With other inactivated whole virus, or protein vector, or viral vector vaccines, they last a bit longer in the body, but are still essentially destroyed, leaving only the trained immune responses.
So the poison is in the adjunctive?
originally posted by: FreeOrigin
a reply to: chr0naut
I enjoy reading your posts.
Earlier in this thread you noted 'None of an mRNA vaccine leaves the injection site.' I'd challenge that with the recent Japanese Nanoparticle Study (Pfizer report number 185350) which indicated fragmented lipid nanoparticles up and through 48hrs post dose, migrated throughout the body; most concentrated in the spleen, lymph nodes and ovaries.
Whats the implications of this? I dont know. Does this mean there are or are not LNPs, mRNA, or spike proteins migrating? I dont know. That wasnt studied as I understand the intent and conclusion of the paper.
I value your thoughts. Please let me know if you think I'm interpreting the data wrong.
Parents Speak Out About Their Children Dying from the Vaccines
As vaccinations in the young ramp up, thousands of families – banned from sharing their stories on most social media platforms – are speaking out on alternative outlets.
The Parents of Benjamin Goodman, 32, spoke out recently about the death of their son caused by the Johnson and Johnson vaccine.
This is just one family out of countless families across the country who have lost their child or other loved ones due to severe reactions from the COVID-19 vaccines.
This comes at a time when the advisory panel of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) held an emergency meeting on June 18 to discuss reports of heart inflammation after doses of COVID-19 vaccine.