are we using alien tech

a reply to: 8654drp2

That doesn't make sense, we are not adapted to water.

are we using alien tech

No way to verify this but according to the late Boyd Bushman of Lockheed Martin via David Sereda,the black world is using fully operational alien craft piloted by humans to do interstellar/deep space missions.The major problem that they are facing is that the fields generated by the craft are very harmful to biological tissue and gives the pilots cancer.Col. Corso said that humans can't survive for long in the intense electromagnetic envelope generated by the alien propulsion system and that we are going to have to genetically engineer the pilots in order for them to be able to do long distance space travel.


Ben Rich,former head of Lockheed Martin Skunkworks: "If you've seen it on Star Wars or Star Trek,we've been there,done that,or decided it wasn't worth the effort."

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: 8654drp2

That doesn't make sense, we are not adapted to water.

True but I have known a few guy's that drank so much beer you would swear they were part fish of some kind.

originally posted by: Tinel

No way to verify this but according to the late Boyd Bushman of Lockheed Martin via David Sereda,the black world is using fully operational alien craft piloted by humans to do interstellar/deep space missions.The major problem that they are facing is that the fields generated by the craft are very harmful to biological tissue and gives the pilots cancer.Col. Corso said that humans can't survive for long in the intense electromagnetic envelope generated by the alien propulsion system and that we are going to have to genetically engineer the pilots in order for them to be able to do long distance space travel.


Ben Rich,former head of Lockheed Martin Skunkworks: "If you've seen it on Star Wars or Star Trek,we've been there,done that,or decided it wasn't worth the effort."

Well- the bit about being able to freely explore deep space- but only at the cost of fatal radiation exposure sounds like a typical LM cost saving to me.

Maybe it is all true... all the good LM people are off playing with transporters, replicators and warp drives and the tax payer gets the B team ?

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: 8654drp2

That doesn't make sense, we are not adapted to water.

We have some small adaptations that some scientists have suggested may have been a result of us trying to "return to the sea" again (like dolphins and whales, I suppose). We are mostly hairless, and we have webbed fingers unlike most primates. Also unlike most primates our nostrils open downward which is helps keep water out when we're upright. We have salty tears. Lots of things:
visual.ly...

We're not built for deep water, but those things could help in an environment where we lived near the ocean and went back and forth into it for food, protection, etc. Who knows? It would be pretty hard to find human fossils in those areas to verify it, since those old habitats are under water these days.

a reply to: Blue Shift

I actually do not believe the Aquatic Ape hypothesis but it is still an interesting one, the idea is that as you point out many of our adaptations were for a semi aquatic coastal life style were it was conjectured that these early ancestors developed a more upright posture not so much to see over tall grass as to wade into shallow waters, to be able to hold our breath etc.

Very early midden tips known as sea shell mounds were probably the inspiration because indeed a lot of humans lived and ate from both in the past and the present the waters of this planet, most of our modern city's are built on coastal areas as it is also our first major highway, even most inland city's and cultures grew up around river systems with many of the ancient city's having been built upon sometimes now long vanished river bank's.

It was also a good explanation for how ancient human's managed to spread so far around the world so fast, they followed the coast lines and river systems in search of rich harvests of fish and shell fish.





Note I personally find that guy claiming that people that deny we are apes are nonsensical is actually balderdash, he is literally speaking from his own opinion one that shows weak will, lack of self determination and adherence to dogmatic and dominant views among many but many that hold those views because of what they have read or learned from others, of there acceptance of others opinions while rejecting the views of there ancestors as wrong but the truth is that he knows no more than someone whom believes the opposite of him, sadly it is those of shared opinion with him that have been involved in a cover up many of us believe into humanity's true history, there are ongoing rumours that evidence of ancient advanced and sometimes far larger (many religions including the bible talk of our race as smaller than those that came before, not just the giants) human or very human like remains being covered up on a number of occasions though proving that is more problematic as you follow that breadcrumb trail and it often points to organised religion and government institutions being involved in such cover up's with unproven claims that the Smithsonian for instance destroyed or buried massive amount's of evidence that did not fit the Isolationist view of it's founder over the years and the usual claim that even registered and recorded artefacts have vanished or are lost in it's huge warehouses and supposedly can not today be found? (not that implausible if there record keeping and storage was pure chaos but was it?).

Fish protein is also better for us, fish oil's and we can more easily digest it.

But


I am not a drinker (of alcohol except on rare occasions) but this is just a bit of fun as an afterthought.


Now as a science fiction fan and child of the 70's and 80's I read many comic book's about aquatic civilization so of course I think it would be cool but highly unlikely that a sentient race of human cousins could have developed beneath the oceans living in bioluminescent lighted under water city's, farming reef's etc but instead of evolving what if a race altered themselves, there have been many science fiction story's around aliens in fluid filled space craft for example in which the fluid helped to protect them to a degree against g-forces (in those story's) etc.

Personally the idea of breathing in and swimming in everyone's poop and pee is not a nice one to me though, I mean someone breaking wind is bad enough but imagine there turd's floating past while you are getting stuck into your roast manta ray.

originally posted by: Blue Shift
We have some small adaptations that some scientists have suggested may have been a result of us trying to "return to the sea" again (like dolphins and whales, I suppose). We are mostly hairless, and we have webbed fingers unlike most primates. Also unlike most primates our nostrils open downward which is helps keep water out when we're upright. We have salty tears. Lots of things:
visual.ly...

The image in that link looks more like someone is trying to force everything to fit their opinion, and is full of silly things.

a reply to: saskwatch

Explain this, there are billions of transistors in a microchip, each transistor is holding a charge or it isn't, either state renders it in the on or off position. Thus the binary digital system. That's all well and good . but these are supposed to be connected by a limited number of pins. about 32 if my memory serves me correctly. Getting the information back just does not make sense.

originally posted by: anonentity
That's all well and good . but these are supposed to be connected by a limited number of pins. about 32 if my memory serves me correctly. Getting the information back just does not make sense.

What does not make sense?

a reply to: ArMaP

How 32 connections can communicate with billions of transistors, to my way of thinking you would have to have each transistor linked to billions of switches to enquire whether it held a charge or not, and in doing so would wipe the charge.

a reply to: Jukiodone

Maybe it is all true... all the good LM people are off playing with transporters, replicators and warp drives and the tax payer gets the B team ?

An almost weeping Neil Armstrong confirmed that something like this is unfortunately true,in 1994.The major breakthroughs are no longer made public like they were in the 19th century."They" are keeping them for themselves.

Ben Rich,Lockheed Martin Skunkworks:"We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity."

a reply to: anonentity

Things do not work that way.

Below is the diagram for a simple ALU (arithmetic logic unit) that can make several arithmetic and logical operations on two 4 bits numbers.



You see that it has 22 external connections. It would also need two more connections, +5 V and 0 V, giving it a total of 24 external connections.

Each one of the elements in the above diagram is a logic gate, so it has around 70 logic gates.

These are the most used logic gates on that diagram:

The AND gate, that performs the logic AND operation with two inputs.


And how one is made, with two transistors.



The NOR gate, that performs the logic OR operation with two inputs and inverts the result.


And how one is made, also with two transistors.



The XOR gate, that performs the logic EXCLUSIVE OR operation with two inputs.


And how one is made, with six transistors.



So, we have a circuit that performs basic arithmetic and logical operations on four inputs, made with around 70 logic gates.
If we assume an average of 3 transistors per gate (I'm to lazy to count them) we get a total of around 210 transistors.
The external connections are only 24

a reply to: ArMaP

Thanks for that it was enlightening.

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
a reply to: saskwatch

The transistor should be the “smoking gun” if anything. From rubbing two sticks together to start a fire to a butane torch… uh, sure, it was a “coincidence” that Roswell happened only a year before that “discovery”.

Transistors have a well-known history going all the way back to vacuum tubes. The development of the solid state transistor is documented.

Harte

originally posted by: ArMaP

originally posted by: Blue Shift
We have some small adaptations that some scientists have suggested may have been a result of us trying to "return to the sea" again (like dolphins and whales, I suppose). We are mostly hairless, and we have webbed fingers unlike most primates. Also unlike most primates our nostrils open downward which is helps keep water out when we're upright. We have salty tears. Lots of things:
visual.ly...

The image in that link looks more like someone is trying to force everything to fit their opinion, and is full of silly things.

Yeah, that's a valid argument against the visual, but not the theory. We are significantly different than the other large primates, though. Did it happen because we wanted to surf? Maybe. Do we have less hair than most primates because of our affinity for water, or is it just because we started wearing clothing and slowly lost our hair? We didn't change for no reason. What was it?

originally posted by: Harte
Transistors have a well-known history going all the way back to vacuum tubes. The development of the solid state transistor is documented.

Absolutely true. However, the story told by Philip Corso (a government spook from way back) is that some of the alien artifacts were evaluated and some were given to companies that were already working on similar projects and they helped them solve some problems they were having. A little boost from an similar artifact from the future, perhaps. The story also goes on to say that there were some artifacts based on technology we didn't really understand -- having to do with psychic energy -- and those items were not developed further because no one was working on anything similar.

Either way, while there was some theoretical work done beforehand, Bell Labs came up with a working transistor in late 1947, and after that development jumped ahead very rapidly.

My personal opinion is similar to that of Nick Redfern, in that the whole Roswell thing was a case of human experimentation with high-altitude systems, which is a nasty (Nazi) business and would be reasonable for the US Government to still want to keep secret.

originally posted by: Blue Shift
Do we have less hair than most primates because of our affinity for water, or is it just because we started wearing clothing and slowly lost our hair? We didn't change for no reason. What was it?

We didn't lost our hair, humans are covered in hair, some more than others, with some clear racial differences.
People from North Europe, for example, have thinner and lighter hairs than those from the South. Some men do have lots of dark hair over all their bodies.

a reply to: ArMaP

According to the DNA in pubic lice, as opposed to normal lice they separated into different species a hundred thousand years ago, that was when humans started to lose hair on the body. At least our species. It has been stated that because we moved from the tropics to the more temperate zones to get more vitamin D we had to lose it. But seeing the chimps in Africa have plenty of hair either they produce their own Vitamin D or they might still have the gene to produce it.

originally posted by: anonentity
It has been stated that because we moved from the tropics to the more temperate zones to get more vitamin D we had to lose it. But seeing the chimps in Africa have plenty of hair either they produce their own Vitamin D or they might still have the gene to produce it.

That doesn't make sense when we look at where the people with more or less body hair come from, as the people with less body hair come from Africa, Asia and North Europe.

originally posted by: ArMaP

originally posted by: Blue Shift
Do we have less hair than most primates because of our affinity for water, or is it just because we started wearing clothing and slowly lost our hair? We didn't change for no reason. What was it?

We didn't lost our hair, humans are covered in hair, some more than others, with some clear racial differences.
People from North Europe, for example, have thinner and lighter hairs than those from the South. Some men do have lots of dark hair over all their bodies.

Compared to apes, though, our hair is generally pretty light and sparse, particularly among black Africans and east Asians.

P.S. -- Also Native Americans. They have very little body hair. Is there a pattern there?