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posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 08:37 AM
a reply to: karl 12

There's also this lovely audio secretly recorded at a S+B initiation and turns out a replica of the Arch of the Temple of Baal also made an appearance at this 2017 'global government' meeting (which no mainstream news agency ever reported on).

Alrighty then my good member. I'll leave it at that and let the future
play out. I'm sure you'll be paying attention.

posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 10:00 AM
a reply to: Randyvine2

Can't say fairer than that mate and I certainly will.

There are also some revelations below taken from a 1987 Colorado Congress attended by the likes of Edmund De Rothschild, David Rockefeller, Maurice Strong etc.

Some outrageous remarks being made including referring to everyone as 'the cannon fodder who unfortunately populate the earth'.

The printed programme for the meeting also makes for some very interesting reading.

Picture, if you will, a group of the wealthiest, most powerful villains the world has ever seen meeting in a secret bunker in an undisclosed location. A hush descends on the room as the proceedings begin, and the assembled super-fiends discuss how best to enact their plan for world domination. It is obvious what must be done, but not so obvious how to achieve it.

One of the evil cabal's henchmen rises to speak:

"I suggest therefore that this be sold not through a democratic process - that would take too long and devour far too much of the funds - to educate the cannon fodder, unfortunately, that populates the earth. We have to take almost an elitist program, [so] that we can see beyond our swollen bellies, and look to the future in time frames and in results which are not easily understood, or which can be, with intellectual honesty, be reduced down to some kind of simplistic definition."

Then the head villain, old and soft-spoken but with a gravitas that makes the others tremble, speaks. In his quiet and deliberate way he lays out a plan for world domination: The takeover of one-third of the earth's surface. The creation of a global military force to maintain that control. And a bank to oversee the whole process.

Sound too cartoonish? Well, it really happened. Only it wasn't a secret bunker in an undisclosed location, but the 4th World Wilderness Congress that took place in Denver, Colorado, in 1987

The (Second) Most Important Bank You've Never Heard Of


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posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 10:07 AM
a reply to: karl 12

Your links and vids are appreciated many I've been thru but those
I haven't have reminded of some points. I appreciate your candor.

posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 12:51 PM
a reply to: Randyvine2

No worries mate, thanks for the kind words and I do appreciate the input.

Suppose another subject that many people think is just silly nonsense is 'weather control'.

Thought there was a very good vid below dealing with the historical reality of weather modification research and Project Cirrus back in 1947.

Also some pretty remarkable historical research about Dr Harry Wexler.

posted on Jun, 23 2021 @ 05:11 AM
Following Elon Musk's recently publicised desire to invasively insert microchips and electrodes inside everybody's brain (which are then wirelessly connected to a phone app).


And following on from Peter Thiel's $10 million financing of a rival 'brain implant' company called 'Blackrock Neurotech'.


Then thought it was worthwhile posting Dr José Delgado's statement delivered at the 1972 U.S. Congressional 'MKUltra' hearings.

"We need a program of psychosurgery for political control of our society. The purpose is physical control of the mind. Everyone who deviates from the given norm can be surgically manipulated.

The individual may think that the most important reality is his own existence, but this is only his personal point of view. This lacks historical perspective Man does not have the right to develop his own mind.

This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electrically control the brain. Some day armies and generals will be controlled by electric stimulation of the brain".

Dr Jose Manuel Rodriguez Delgado

Director of Neuropsychiatry Yale University Medical School

Congressional Record, No. 26, Vol. 118 February 24, 1974


posted on Jun, 24 2021 @ 05:00 PM
Don't know if this counts but there's a thread below about the reality of 'psychiatry'.

Dr. Jeffrey Schaler Professor of Psychology describes psychiatry as a pseudo science.


posted on Jun, 25 2021 @ 08:39 AM
More examples of U.S. Government (and Rockefeller Foundation) biowarfare experiments on unsuspecting targeted human populations.

posted on Jun, 30 2021 @ 12:50 PM
March, 1962 - Joint Chiefs of Staff meeting recommends false flag terrorism:

The Joint Chiefs expressly proposed arranging, planning, and executing terrorist attacks in Miami and Washington D.C.

These proposed terrorist events would be blamed on Cuba, and were hoped to, if carried out, cause a wave of indignation across the American public mind and provide the popular support for invading Cuba militarily.

Northwoods Document 1962

posted on Jul, 6 2021 @ 09:56 AM
Leonard A. Cole's book 'Clouds Of Secrecy' dealing with documented germ warfare testing programmes on the public.

Clouds of Secrecy: The Army's Germ Warfare Tests Over Populated Areas

In the 1970s Americans learned for the first time that they had been used for decades as unsuspecting guinea pigs in a series of astonishing experiments conducted by the US Army. Military researchers had been secretly spraying clouds of bacteria over populated areas in order to study America's vulnerability to biological weapons. Many civilians have suffered illness, even death, as a consequence.

Clouds Of Secrecy

Direct violation of the Nuremberg Code:

On June 6, 1966, a group of US Army scientists made their way into the Seventh and Eighth Avenue lines of the New York City subway. Some carried air sampling machines in boxes and on belts; others carried light bulbs.

The light bulbs were packed with about 175 grams of Bacillus subtilis bacteria, then known as Bacillus globigii — approximately 87 trillion organisms in each. The plan was to shatter them and then use the sampling machines to see how they spread through the subway tunnels and trains.

This test was one of at least 239 experiments conducted by the military in a 20-year “germ warfare testing program” that went on from 1949 to 1969. These experiments that used bacteria to simulate biological weapons were conducted on civilians without their knowledge or consent. That stands in direct violation of the Nuremberg Code, which stipulates that “voluntary, informed consent” is required for research participants.

posted on Jul, 9 2021 @ 11:20 AM
Relevant thread from JohnBull1:

Top Ten Real Conspiracies

posted on Oct, 16 2021 @ 01:05 PM
a reply to: karl 12

here is that video it is kind of long but if you want to skip to the human experimentation go to minute 26

posted on Oct, 16 2021 @ 03:31 PM
a reply to: karl 12

Fantastic thread! Here's another one on the MKULTRA endless saga which I'm sure some folks here are familair.

Material Testing Program EA (Edgewood Arsenal) numbers known as Edgewood Arsenal human experiments (insidious MKULTRA type of program)

One of the program codenames was EA1729 & EA3528.
"EA 1729 - L_S_D in free base form." Many chemical based programs were conducted at this base from 1948-1975.

Fort Holabird was a US Army Intelligence/MKULTRA training base combined with Army Chemical Corps Edgewood Arsenal for human chemical/mind control experiments. The U.S. Army Intelligence School and Counter Intelligence Records Facility was based here until transferred to Fort Huachuca, Arizona in 1972. A street-level hit of acid is 160 micrograms. In 1958 they were administering 1600.😳

There were some notable people trained or stationed at Ft. Holabird. One was J. D. Salinger, author of The Catcher in the Rye. You might recall both assassins of (Lennon & Pres Reagan) were fascinated with this book which was possibly part of their mind control training. Both Hinckley Jr and Mark David Chapman (who killed John Lennon less than 4 months earlier) had read and studied the book The Catcher in the Rye. John Hinckley Jr. would be assassin of Pres Reagan, came from a wealthy family and his father was a friend of George HW Bush.


Jim Keith, author, died young very suspiciously while exposing a CIA program and also wrote some great books about 'The Men in Black'. He also wrote about Fort Holabird, Maryland, stating Nazi scientists (Op Paperclip) conducted psycho chemical experiments on American enlisted men at the Edgewood Arsenal in Maryland and at Army Intelligence Fort Holabird. This was the beginnings of the CIA's MKULTRA program.

Side story: I came across this Edgewood Arsenal when I was going thru some old trance music and happened upon a 90s French-Canadian Goa Trance group called "EA 1729" who wrote a Trance Compilation piece titled "The 25th code" - back in 1995. It is the only song track on the album. When I Googled "EA 1729" I got really unexpected results. FasciTube removed the original vid, but others have reposted the track though the video itself is not the original psychedelic style.

To add salt:

Emotions Anonymous (EA) is a twelve-step program for recovery from mental and emotional illness. As of 2017 there were approximately 300 EA groups active in the United States and another 300 around the world.

Unethical human experimentation in the United States - Lengthy wiki listing.

Project 112 was a biological and chemical weapon experimentation project conducted by the United States Department of Defense from 1962 to 1973.

Operation Dew took place from 1951-1952 off the southeast coast of the United States, including near Georgia, and North and South Carolina. Operation Dew consisted of two sets of trials, Dew I and Dew II. The tests involved the release of 250 pounds (110 kg) of fluorescent particles from a minesweeper off the coast. Operation Dew I was described in a U.S. Army report known as "Dugway Special Report 162", dated August 1, 1952. The purpose of Operation Dew was to study the behavior of aerosol-released biological agents.

Operation LAC (Large Area Coverage) was a United States Army Chemical Corps operation which dispersed microscopic zinc cadmium sulfide (ZnCdS) particles over much of the United States and Canada in order to test dispersal patterns and the geographic range of chemical or biological weapons.

Michael Aquino from one of his posts on ATS had claimed this is real by DARPA:
Brave New World: Neurowarfare and the Limits of International Humanitarian Law (I have no doubt)

MKULTRA is alive and kicking today but I call it E-MKULTRA. "E" for entrainment through mass media/hollywood propaganda which has worked better than they ever imagined.

posted on Oct, 19 2021 @ 04:12 PM
How about the following for conspiracy realism with some conjecture...

Favorite Dr. Evil quote that will go down in infamy:
Dr. Fauci's message for Canadians opposed to COVID vaccine mandates and passports: "there comes a time when you do have to give up what you consider your individual right of making your own decision for the greater good of society."

Regards to possible origins/planning of The Great Convergence, I came across the following DoD documents that look to be part of their contingency planning for 2020 corona Op AND what is still playing out today.

United States Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) Concept of Operations Plan (CONPLAN) 3551-09, Concept Plan to Synchronize DOD Pandemic Influenza Planning, 13 Aug 2009: 3551-09 [PDF, 469 pages] with heavy redactions.

US Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) Concept of Operations Plan (CON PLAN) 3591-09, Response to Pandemic Influenza, 13 August 2009: 3591-09 [81mb PDF] (Less specific from the 2017 version)👇

USNORTHCOM Branch Plan 3560: Pandemic Influenza and Infectious Disease Response (Jan 6, 2017)

The 2017 version has a more extensive wishlist. On pg C-1-D-4:


Social distancing & culling (pg C-1-D-11):

Misuse or accidental release (pg C-1-D-12):

From CONPLAN 3591-09:

From CONPLAN 3560 (2017):

From CONPLAN 3591-09 (friendly):

From CONPLAN 3560 (friendly, 2017):

Found it interesting of the double acronym meaning of COG.
COG = Centers of Gravity
COG = Continuity of Government

When Pelosi was blabbering about COG late last year maybe she was referring to Centers of Gravity of friendly vs enemy.?

It goes on & on in detail. Building up to a 'global' problem in their analysis. So, they knew all this ahead of time, yet they did nothing to fix the problem. On the flip-side the biggest difference between the 2009 vs 2017 version is the newer is more specific on a 'novel' virus and these types of people who write these documents is that they created an on the shelf version of a new (novel) respiratory virus that had all the secret characteristics that they didn't know in 2009 to create a global pandemic. By 2017 they were really close and if they had changed the definition of 'pandemic' to just excess morbidity vice mortality they would of nailed it. So, that is perhaps why they had to artificially inflate the death numbers, change the defintion of 'cases' and 'herd immunity' and 'vaccine' to lockdown the world in the emergence of a novel coronavirus as a trigger attempt to bring in the great reset. Population control through philanthrophy of Eugenics/gene therapy - Epigenetics & Euphenics in utilizing cancer & HIV (GoF) research grants. Perhaps we are the human mice in John Calhoun's mouse utopia universes.

These plans are from the same people/agencies that just told us the vax is NOT effective and natural immunity is more effective.🙄🙃

Military planning all under the guise of an invisible (manufactured) enemy funded by taxpayer dollars (but of course) deep in bed with medical mafia and financed by big (WEF) corporations, steered by Int'l cabal of banksters who are protected by factions of the intel community AND msm to keep us dazed & confused, and immediate Orwellian censorship if we speak out of line. Something along those lines.

If interested you can peruse the massive listing of FOIA Department of Defense Documents archive on the Government Attic site.

Most recent release: BIOLOGICAL WARFARE, Report To The Secretary Of War by Mr. George W. Merck, Special Consultant For Biological Warfare, "The Merck Report" 1945 - [PDF 620 KB 02-Aug-2021]

posted on Nov, 18 2021 @ 12:01 PM

off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


posted on Nov, 18 2021 @ 05:55 PM
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posted on Nov, 18 2021 @ 09:11 PM
a reply to: karl 12
This is prolly premature knee jerk, so apologies upfront.🙏❤


The way Soros betrays his mentor by perverting his philosophy is pretty ratchet, antifa blm is the flavor of his philanthropy amongst buying judges, but...

If keeping in the dark a topic that matters here and now it's not by mistake....
But is a mistake in the making.


Tax payer clause should make heavy the burden of guilt, but profusely emboldens.

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posted on Dec, 13 2021 @ 05:24 PM
a reply to: karl 12

Karl, thanks so much for posting the link to this thread in my recent one!!

Some great info in here, don't know how I missed it last summer..

posted on Apr, 3 2022 @ 12:50 AM
a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

Some great info there mate and thanks for posting it - did you catch this thread from Eisegesis?

A Complete List of All 149 MKULTRA Subprojects

a reply to: lostgirl

No worries Lostgirl.

posted on Aug, 25 2022 @ 01:55 PM

originally posted by: lostgirl
a reply to: karl 12

Karl, thanks so much for posting the link to this thread in my recent one!!

Some great info in here, don't know how I missed it last summer..

Yes here's another 'don't be so ridiculous' one that, down the years, has been proven to be true.

Toxic Heavy Metals In Baby Food.

Makes you think what these guys are on about - why don't they address the issues raised in this thread?

UN Declares War on Dangerous Conspiracy Theories: The World Is NOT Secretly Manipulated

posted on Aug, 25 2022 @ 08:45 PM
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