Rep. Gohmert asks can we alter the orbit of the Earth and moon

a reply to: Mandroid7

Yes the orbits are changing, that is basic knowledge (or so i thought). Hell precessional wobble affects the climate and that is a roughly 26,000 year cycle, there are so many variables to climate that operate on timelines we can not comprehend. Our impact on the overall climate is miniscule

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

That's called trolling tradecraft.🤣

“And Spaceship Earth, that glorious and bloody circus, continued its four-billion-year-long spiral orbit about the Sun; the engineering, I must admit, was so exquisite that none of the passengers felt any motion at all. Those on the dark side of the ship mostly slept and voyaged into worlds of freedom and fantasy; those on the light side moved about the tasks appointed for them by their rulers, or idled waiting for the next order from above.”
― Robert Anton Wilson, The Illuminatus! Trilogy

Through the years, I am sure that we have done things that altered the orbit of the earth somewhat. It probably was not much, but there is always some effect on gravity or the magnetic field that we are creating which could do a little. I wouldn't be too concerned about it unless we mine a real lot of the dipoles out.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

It would tip Guam over if we did that.

Jesus H Christ, I remember that one. I couldn't believe he said it.



Just remember after watching this while you're laying in bed drifting off, these people are in charge of making laws.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Wacky stuff indeed. But maybe the guys just reading off a script for his political affiliates. Or it may be fake. In either case. There all pretty either high as a kite, or really out of touch with the reality that the sun alone is a million times the size of this entire planet.

May as well wish for a magical unicorn to make you a sword which can cut through a sun. Both things arent going or likely to happen any time soon.

But hey? Im hoping for multiuniverse theory or something. That way, maybe unicorns and magical swords may exist, out there in some galaxy, not of this universe, but in a parallel universe were unicorns and magic swords exist.

In this universe though? Ah! Hate to break it to people. But were kind of like not winning in a fight against the sun. An ant will have a greater chance of moving Mt Everest by pushing the mountain with its little ant feet.

originally posted by: HONROC
a reply to: Mandroid7

Yes the orbits are changing, that is basic knowledge (or so i thought). Hell precessional wobble affects the climate and that is a roughly 26,000 year cycle, there are so many variables to climate that operate on timelines we can not comprehend. Our impact on the overall climate is miniscule

But we can measure the amount of radiation which reaches the Earth. This varies due to both solar output and our orbit. It hasn't changed enough to account for the warming trend. lasp.colorado.edu...

There is a lot of internal variation as well. Things like the ENSO and NAO. But these just represent peaks and valleys in the overall trend. That trend in global temperatures has been up for 100 years. As has that of CO2 concentrations. Higher, in fact, that it has been in more than a million years. keelingcurve.ucsd.edu...

That increase in CO2 is from us and accounts quite well for the trend. Both by correlation and the physics involved.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Phage

I’ve seen somewhere before that during the dinosaurs they have 5X the amount of CO2 we have today, and certain periods had 35% O2 compared to our 21%. I’m sure they didn’t tax certain dinos for excessive emissions, but I could be wrong.
As for the op, the guy was making a smart a$$ remark making a point.

This entire Op displays exactly why The Left Can’t Meme!

a reply to: TexasTruth

I’ve seen somewhere before that during the dinosaurs they have 5X the amount of CO2 we have today

No source? But so what? We weren't around then and the Sun was cooler. Now we're putting that very same CO2 back into the atmosphere, and the Sun is hotter.

As for the op, the guy was making a smart a$$ remark making a point.

What point would that be?

Meming is for those lacking in cognitive abilities and/or communication skills.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

It seems like the nuance and subtlety of American culture seems to fly undetected through your airspace.

a reply to: SonofaSkunk

He’s mega-trolling this lady into admitting she’s helpless to effect the changing climate.

You may be right, but I have learned to never... NEVER... underestimate the stoopid that can come out of a politician's mouth. Most have this stoopid reserve that they can call on as soon as they are underestimated.

Not only that, but you know somewhere AOC is staring into space with that "deer in the headlights" look, thinking "That could work! If we gave the planet a vaccination against the Chinese virus and gave the Space Force a really, really, really big magnet..."

TheRedneck

a reply to: Phage

We weren't around then and the Sun was cooler. Now we're putting that very same CO2 back into the atmosphere, and the Sun is hotter.

But won't the sun get cooler if we're farther away from it?

So this is a good idea then?

TheRedneck

a reply to: Mandroid7

NASA

A century ago, Serbian scientist Milutin Milankovitch hypothesized the long-term, collective effects of changes in Earth’s position relative to the Sun are a strong driver of Earth’s long-term climate, and are responsible for triggering the beginning and end of glaciation periods (Ice Ages).

Specifically, he examined how variations in three types of Earth orbital movements affect how much solar radiation (known as insolation) reaches the top of Earth’s atmosphere as well as where the insolation reaches. These cyclical orbital movements, which became known as the Milankovitch cycles, cause variations of up to 25 percent in the amount of incoming insolation at Earth’s mid-latitudes (the areas of our planet located between about 30 and 60 degrees north and south of the equator).

The Milankovitch cycles include:
1. The shape of Earth’s orbit, known as eccentricity;
2. The angle Earth’s axis is tilted with respect to Earth’s orbital plane, known as obliquity; and
3. The direction Earth’s axis of rotation is pointed, known as precession.

He calculated that Ice Ages occur approximately every 41,000 years. Subsequent research confirms that they did occur at 41,000-year intervals between one and three million years ago. But about 800,000 years ago, the cycle of Ice Ages lengthened to 100,000 years, matching Earth’s eccentricity cycle. While various theories have been proposed to explain this transition, scientists do not yet have a clear answer.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Aye not a problem. LoL

That is as soon as we can build the likes of a Dyson swam or sphere.

Celestial engineering is somewhat above Humanities current pay grade and then some.

Fact of the matter we don't even have enough atomics on the planet to put a dent or change the orbit of our world in any significant manner.

a reply to: rickymouse

NASA

The Earth rotates about its axis once a day, but it does not do so uniformly. Instead, the rate of rotation varies by up to a millisecond per day. Like a spinning ice skater whose speed of rotation increases as the skater’s arms are brought closer to their body, the speed of the Earth’s rotation will increase if its mass is brought closer to its axis of rotation. Conversely, the speed of the Earth’s rotation will decrease if its mass is moved away from the rotation axis.

Melting land ice, like mountain glaciers and the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets, will change the Earth’s rotation only if the meltwater flows into the oceans. If the meltwater remains close to its source (by being trapped in a glacier lake, for example), then there is no net movement of mass away from the glacier or ice sheet, and the Earth’s rotation won’t change. But if the meltwater flows into the oceans and is dispersed, then there is a net movement of mass and the Earth’s rotation will change. For example, if the Greenland ice sheet were to completely melt and the meltwater were to completely flow into the oceans, then global sea level would rise by about seven meters (23 feet) and the Earth would rotate more slowly, with the length of the day becoming longer than it is today, by about two milliseconds.

Melting sea ice, such as the Arctic ice cap, does not change sea level because the ice displaces its volume and, hence, does not change the Earth’s rotation.

SO, if humans are contributing to the melting of these ice sources on land, then yes, we can alter the orbit, or at least the rotation rate.

a reply to: Phage

We weren't around then and the Sun was cooler.

Pics or it didn't happen.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Aye not a problem. LoL

That is as soon as we can build the likes of a Dyson swam or sphere.

Celestial engineering is somewhat above Humanities current pay grade and then some.

You're just not spinning those magnets fast enough!

Dammit, we'll get there soon..

a reply to: Tulpa

Come on Tulpa the magnets are all busy sticking to peeps vaccination spots.

Put it this way if we somehow managed to gain the capability to change the orbits of our Earth or Moon.

And still with all our Eggs down here in the same basket we may possibly have a really bad day.

We might get there Tulpa, if we dont manage to destroy ourselves in the process, but at the end of the day lets just hope we don't turn out to be our own great filter.

Celestial engineering through, we are probably going to need the singularity in spades to gain that ability, never mind somewhat transcend our limited human perspective, our star system being a larger kettle of fish to contend with and perceive.

Gohmert and Johnson .
Better than the 3 Stooges.

He wasn’t being sarcastic! Lolololololol

Oh my, you all will defend anything - what a bunch of pusses!!!!

originally posted by: TheRedneck
But won't the sun get cooler if we're farther away from it?

No. The sun gets colder when it's winter there.

Politician logic for the win.