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Russia denounced communism in the 1990s

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posted on Jun, 9 2021 @ 06:14 PM
I was looking for videos, I know there some out there of young Putin denouncing communism and praising the tsar.
(Update: Video added bot)

Then I started wondering why people still call Russia communist. So I spent time googling and came across this page.

I felt the need to share it with everyone, because people need a reminder that Russia is not communism. They are democratic/capitalist that does not ban communist parties from running for office.

Anyway if you, like me wanted someone to spell it out for you. Go ahead and read "Eugene's" answers. Then do some research yourself on the matter.

why do people keep calling Russia communist.

So there you have it. While President Xi is on his countries 137th genocide. Putin remains more of a threat out of pure jealousy of democratic leaders. (80-90% approval rating).

Why do people keep saying Russia is communist?
Vladimir Vladimirovich is centrist, thus he doesn't attack left-wing or right-wing, but instead he tends to rally both sides for the good of Russian Federation, while keeping it democratic and trying to keep left & right wings from fighting each other -- hence why such incredibly large support towards him, that's basically unachievable in Europe or North America.
As a long-term strategist, he does challenge (intellectually) retarded concepts, such as far-left (libtards and such) and far-right (neo-nazis).

Somehow miraculously he nearly always succeeds at all of this. How exactly he manages to do all of that at the same time I'll never know.

However, on point as to why such perception about communism exists in the West:
1.) Communist Party is not banned (unlike in some (((democratic))) countries, kek) and always participates in elections, usually scoring as either 3rd or 4th.

2.) Quite a lot of politicians in the West are outright jealous of Vladimir Vladimirovich and his nearly universal approval among citizens (80%-90% of approval is basically unheard of in the West nowadays!) and even approval from foreigners abroad!
At some point some British newspapers made a discovery that more common Britons would prefer Vladimir Vladimirovich as prime minister of United Kingdom than donkeys such as Cameron:
He's conservative centrist, openly Christian, democratic, straight, charismatic, pro-life (can anyone name a politician that can hold a LIVE conference with his citizens for a few hours in a row answering all sorts of questions coming from simple folks, instead of journalists?), anti-libtard, anti-(((globalist))), witty, smart and patriotic -- pretty much everything that typical Western leader is not allowed to be nowadays. Jealousy and fear in his enemies evolves in attempts to smear him in the eyes of common Westerner by simply demonizing him -- which includes calling him communist (which he clearly is NOT) and whatnot.

3.) A lot of Westerners, especially (not intended as an offense, but rather as observation) Americans are self-centered, ie they seldom bother to learn anything about other countries, especially if those countries aren't English. Hence they tend to be stuck with the same perception for decades; And this mentality is artificially developed by (((media))) bias, where they'll buy whatever bull# some (((CNN)) is telling them as a crystal clear truth.

video Putin denouncing communism
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posted on Jun, 9 2021 @ 06:28 PM

originally posted by: BlackArrow
I was looking for videos, I know there some out there of young Putin denouncing communism and praising the tsar.

Then I started wondering why people still call Russia communist. So I spent time googling and came across this page.

I felt the need to share it with everyone, because people need a reminder that Russia is not communism. They are democratic/capitalist that does not ban communist parties from running for office.

Anyway if you, like me wanted someone to spell it out for you. Go ahead and read "Eugene's" answers. Then do some research yourself on the matter.

Interesting, S&F for you...

I learned something new this evening, and have some more learnin to do...

posted on Jun, 9 2021 @ 06:42 PM
a reply to: tanstaafl
Yeah, I just get sick and tired of hearing the brainwashed ways of the media reguardin Putin.

Now I want to see the BS excuses, that people make reguardin him and communism. Because wasn't that one of Bidens big sellers is how evil Putin was by media lies?

Especially since Biden is threatening Putin over the G7 meeting. I would pay to see that blow up in his face when the world realizes he's more democratic then our democrats.
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posted on Jun, 9 2021 @ 07:12 PM
a reply to: BlackArrow

Putin is not communist.. Yeah right.

posted on Jun, 9 2021 @ 07:27 PM
a reply to: HONROC

Careful people who speak out against Putin tend to die.

posted on Jun, 9 2021 @ 07:29 PM
a reply to: BlackArrow

I'm unsure where you get the idea that most Americans think Russia is a Communist country, although it does retain some of the old ideology of the former USSR. The oligarchs of the Soviet-era simply transformed into the oligarchs of today and are still close to the seat of power in Russian. Meaning they have the government in their hip pockets quite literally. They can openly engage in organized international crime without worries that the government will go after them.

The guilty until proven innocent nature of the legal system there is quite different than here where individual Rights are paramount, and innocent until proven guilty prevails. Ideologically it's quite different. Even though the wealthy in the US get special treatment under our laws, it's nothing like the protection from the law the still powerful Russian oligarchs enjoy.

Russia's per capita GDP is 15K while the US per capita GDP is about 46K. Overall Russia's GDP of 2 trillion pales next to the US's GDP of nearly 16 trillion.

Putin also seems to be keen on the idea of taking back former Soviet Block countries. Only the world's objection to that stops him from invading and taking back territory it seems to me.

Russian media is government-controlled, so most information coming out of Russia needs to be treated as suspect. I sincerely doubt Putin is as popular as he wants the world to believe. The old USSR propaganda machine is still firmly in place.

Nope, Russia is not Communist, but it's a long way from evolving into a Western Democracy. It's still just one Putin temper tantrum away from returning to it's former self.

posted on Jun, 9 2021 @ 07:31 PM
Just another ruse either way 😃

posted on Jun, 9 2021 @ 07:33 PM
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Well add me to the hit list, I am in no way absolving our politicians in the US but Putin is a thug.

posted on Jun, 9 2021 @ 07:56 PM
a reply to: Blaine91555

Sounds like everything you say about Russia is exactly like the US except gpd, the media is controlled by who ever pays them more, or whatever agenda they see fit to follow.

Same with big tech who literally blackouts presidential/political opponents who actually believe they are to powerful for their own good and therefore a threat. Aka following monopoly laws. Where was the consequences there? Oh right they got a congressional interview and a pat on the back.

Don't get me started on freedom of speech blackouts. To the point they literally shut down the entire east coast to prevent spread of information. Then fact check it by the grandson of a company that's going to profit heavily by pushing it. (JnJ). Or have the head of health (Tony fauchi) a majority stake holder and board member of pfizer pushing drugs 6 months sooner then laws that are in place to protect the people.

What nations haven't we attacked to force our ideology on? Religion, or politics, or oil, at least he wants to reclaim what was once Russia's which is a lot different then us wanting to claim what was never ours to begin with. Iran/Iraq's oil, etc.

At least the guy puts his nation first. Instead of funding abortions, "gender studies", infrastructure and vaccines, food, and more of other nations.

Or forgiving 42trillion dollars debt just because one man in one country said "I submit, I surrender, we allies now" after killing thousands of our people with no reprocessions.

When we still have homeless, and starving children in our own. We burn out fields, and pour it down into the sewers instead of offering said food to people in need here.. or elsewhere.

You wanna talk about communism, the only thing missing is the class system. Which with unemployment payments and everyone getting paid the exact same is exactly what communism is.

You are unable to be fired because of who your family is(race laws in place that make it difficult to fire minorities even of they come in drunk, high, or sit around and refuse to do their job.. and it's been this way for YEARS.). Hence the BLM movement despite the fact by law all companies must maintain 20% minority of they have over 10 employees. Sounds like the class/stats system to me.

P.s another word for communism is socialism by definition. It's just a nicer way of saying you got #ed in the a because you weren't paying attention.

But that's what you get when you got a communist country owning 40% of american land( and democratic leaders renaming communism the fluffy bunny act of 2020), sold by Obama himself tooooo(wait for it)......... China.

Now let's throw in a little bit of healthcare, shaming, round up laws, and more being passed and accepted in general society. Making anyone who thinks "freely" a terrorist under one of the first EOS our dear president Biden passed his first week in office. Let's get into the fact, AOC publically admitting a program sent to record and suppress all opposition.

Again, your votes don't matter when you can't even verify the results. Then when you check your own voting record you see your vote either trash or switched. Funny how my father dead of 18years wound up voting this past election.

Now let's also add the fact they started holding back any child that outperforms, just because minority kids wanna cut class and go screw in the staircase, or get involved in drugs in the courtyard, or just cut class in general.

Communism, no one can be higher then anyone else. This is not equality, equality is the "chance to achieve with the same conditions", not the end result.

edit on 9-6-2021 by BlackArrow because: Corrected spelling, typos, and added extra input.

As for where I get the idea a majority of Americans believe Russia is communism. ASK THEM!
There was a poll on this done like 6 months ago.

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posted on Jun, 9 2021 @ 08:18 PM
a reply to: BlackArrow

‘If Voting Made a Difference, They Wouldn’t Let Us Do It’---- Mark Twain

posted on Jun, 9 2021 @ 09:08 PM
I`m part of a global GM W-body car community and we have a few Russian members that have done some really cool things with these old American cars we never thought to do here. After talking with those guys over the years I`m taking a vacation to Russia sometime and visiting them. They have military theme parks over there where you can drive old tanks and APC`s and fire military grade weapons. There stories of bunkers that the ends haven't been discovered yet they are still full of USSR weapons, ammunition, vehicles ect. so they have to do something with them instead of selling it all to the ME.

posted on Jun, 9 2021 @ 09:18 PM
a reply to: BlackArrow

You do realize that Russia and China are allies. China is communist! You ok with that?

posted on Jun, 9 2021 @ 09:29 PM
a reply to: olaru12
So we have some shady allies ourselves when you consider who is in power.

Bidens own flesh and blood son was doing dealings with the Russians.

Democrats love the Chinese, because of their technology advances on US stolen college kids data.

After all we have a president in office who would probably pay half a million just to spank xi's pee pee, and sniff Kim's sisters hair.

We had another president who gave away half our land for pennies to the chinese as a good will gesture. While drone targeting and killing over 12,500 children, on publically claimed ally soul.

It's one thing to declare allies publically, it's another to do it behind your nations back. Aside from that our allies are bought and paid for. Are YOU okay with that?

The Allies of the USA include, ww allies earned by forgiving debts.
France(Paid for),
Great Britain(paid for)
Germany(Paid for)
Japan - offers little, and is only an ally cause we blasted the # out of them, then charged theem nothing.. but they choose to side with us because they hate china more. After the Chinese tricked them into attacking us. (Paid for)

Australia- neutral but the civilians secretly hates Americans. Especially after they gave up their guns and have become politically corrupt. Without US rescue. (Betrayed the people, but their leaders love us because we let it happen.)

Canada - everyone's friend

Mexico - drug runners for Hillary, massive corruption influence from the cartel leadership. (Who wants to deal with a Mexican war at the border.. would be annoying as hell, and last 2-300years due to Mexican passions.)

Israel, - oil durrr..(they hate us with a passion anyway, and are just good at hiding it . Or do you not remember the US flag burnings in their cities.)

Spain, - offer nothing but get protection
Italy, - offer nothing but get protection
Yugoslavia - offer nothing but get protection.

Not a very good list of allies if you ask me.
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posted on Jun, 9 2021 @ 10:07 PM
a reply to: BlackArrow

You make a lot of accusations and assertions. You need to provide links to back up your claims if you expect to have any credibility. Otherwise it's just more BS.

posted on Jun, 9 2021 @ 11:09 PM
a reply to: olaru12

You voted for the guy that is owned by China...... you cool with the commies?

Also Russia doesn’t follow communism, but they are still authoritarian......

How is this news? oooohh yeah; because people don’t read books anymore, they “assume”.

posted on Jun, 10 2021 @ 09:58 AM
a reply to: BlackArrow

Most Americans understanding of “communist” is anything they don’t like. It’s obvious that Russia and China aren’t communist when you use the actual definition of the word.

But who cares what words actually mean anymore.

posted on Jun, 10 2021 @ 10:22 AM
a reply to: olaru12

I will make this short and sweet, simply because most of the textbook teachings were not uploaded online due to exactly this. As most of this occured prior to the internet and your cell phone. So most of it isn't online, go to the library and read a book.

idiots who never paid attention in school click here, 5-6th grade education; are you smarter then a 5-6th grader? I don't think so.

Everyone owes debt to Germany which owes debt to us, Spain and Italy.(our do nothing allies).

However these are NEW debts. That do not count the WW/revolution/etc debts that we forgave.

P.s - if you check out my posts, you will SEE I don't make claims out my ass. Check out my big reveal, consider the dates and how much of it actually came true based off historical predicted evidence. 80-90%

Do not take words from my mouth and twist it. I say what I mean and mean what I say. Everything I have claimed except for debt data(which is now linked here) has been backed up from 100s of other links of mine easily accessed through my profile. So browse them.

If I missed anything, let me know and I will hunt down the 9million link proof evidence on something you would of learned if you weren't to busy cutting class, doing drugs or getting fd in the staircase instead of at your classroom desk learning.
edit on 10-6-2021 by BlackArrow because: Ugh trying to be nice, but idiots really piss me off. Come on this is like middle school education.. for us millennials, common knowledge for x and boomers.. okay I need to step away from this post, Guess I shouldnt of been surprised the re-re-parade would be the ones to demand proof despite live videos of putin being listed up, disowning communism.
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posted on Jun, 10 2021 @ 10:51 AM
a reply to: SeektoUnderstand

I love you seeks, yep people stopped reading books. Despite the fact every book was "suppose" to of been recorded on the Google platform. A majority of them were not. In stead were tossed aside.

Most of this you will not find online because it was never recorded or transferred to the internet because the internet was to fresh at the time of publication, and the goal of recording "every book" has yet to be complete. We still have at least another 20years for school books to hit the library.

The most you will find is agenda changes online.

Biggest example is "Truman was the only president in our history to balance out the books to bring profitable growth to the GDP, he reversed our debt"

But online the common mentality is "Truman was a slum of a business man".

Always remember- it's easier to scrub a computer then it is to scrub a physical book without the nation taking notice.

book burning list
better list

The sad part is people still haven't put that together. They think a book gets burned because it's racist. XD, shows how stupid people really are.

Books get banned and burned because they contain dangerous knowledge that they do not want the public to know.

How do you think we lost Greek fire? By burning the great library. That's only one example of the knowledge we lost.

Religion alone pushed us back over 2,000 years with library burnings during the crusades, nearly reset human knowledge. If it wasn't for the few scrolls to escape, we would have nothing today and be in a full humanity reset.

I can't stand people who don't read. Their ignorance pisses me off.. so much. Serious pet peeve.

P.s bet I am going to be asked for proof of library, and book burnings for knowledge hiding by religious cults. (Links or it didn't happen!)

Maybe I should state, those burnings also wiped out entire villages til no one was left. The movie agora was wrong as it was rewritten by a Christian. In real life they dragged her to a beach and skinned her alive with clam shells.. but that wouldn't of been a happy ending movie.. and made christians look like smhucks.

So they rewrote the ending, aka essentially rewriting history as a majority of the people seen the movie but didn't know anything about the actual event. Speaking of gonna make a new post. I hope you participate in.
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posted on Jun, 10 2021 @ 05:40 PM
Thank you for this post! Opened my eyes on this, I thought Russia was communist this entire time. I never took the time to check and just assumed so because the soviet union was.

I do regularly watch Russia Insight on youtube and listen to him communicate with people. I found him very intriguing and calm and collected. Nothing like any politician out her in Canada.

posted on Jun, 10 2021 @ 07:44 PM

The sad truth is Russia has a 13% flat income tax and they somehow have "free health care" too.

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