Be careful celebrating LGBTQ2S+ Pride might make you a racist

So something I just learned while surfing the internet... a lot people in the LGBTQ2S+ movement are anti-black.

The 9th habit that shows you are a racist toward black people is celebrating "Pride" with out knowing its full origins.

I wonder if those in the LGBTQ2S+ community understand that they have increased their power and social status to the point that simply celebrating their "Pride" will cause them to be racist?

You celebrate Pride without knowing its origins

Pride is a fun event that brings thousands of people together (not in 2020, cryface) to celebrate how far the LGBTQ2S+ movement has come. Yet for many, that’s where it ends. People, queer and straight alike, treat Pride like a party - when it’s a protest. A protest started by trans women of colour resisting against police violence.

Because our society is so anti-Black, even within other marginalized communities, the radical Black and Latinx origins of Pride, the Stonewall Riots, have been totally whitewashed. This erasure of Black and transgender history from our contemporary understanding of Pride, contributes to the fact that Black trans women experience among the highest rates of violence in North America. Some people in the LGBTQ2S+ acronym experience a lot more privilege than they did in the past - and through great advocacy and struggle - but with their increased power and social status, are leaving Black and racialized queer, trans and Two Spirit people behind.

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a reply to: dandandat2

Two spirit? Seriously? The avenues for queer narcissists to demonstrate how unique and interesting they are knows no bounds.

What isn’t steeped in Historic and or systemic racism these days? The deluge of victimhood makes me feel like I just don’t have the energy to care about anyone’s plight Except for that of children and I don’t like that because there are people’s seriously suffering out there.

a reply to: dandandat2

What about the R2D2C3P08675309'ists?

a reply to: dandandat2

Well, they've got what they've always wanted right? They are now equivalent to straight white males in society's eyes. Congratulations, enjoy being # on. This is what privilege feels like mutha #as.

originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM
a reply to: dandandat2

Two spirit? Seriously? The avenues for queer narcissists to demonstrate how unique and interesting they are knows no bounds.

What isn’t steeped in Historic and or systemic racism these days? The deluge of victimhood makes me feel like I just don’t have the energy to care about anyone’s plight Except for that of children and I don’t like that because there are people’s seriously suffering out there.

I agree with the sentiment; its becoming to lot of work to care about the plight of the "other". Whats going to happen when even morally good people of the world just stop caring?

a reply to: Vasa Croe

#neverforgetjesse'sgirl

a reply to: dandandat2

They already have.

Seriously....why the hell would anyone in the entire rest of the world care about George Floyd dying? Children, by the thousands, die from dissentary and hunger weekly....literally.

But yeah....let's all stop using plastic straws because a turtle had one stuck in its nose.

Why would anyone take anything seriously spoken from anyone that bought into that mindset?

Logic has been lost completely and forever.

a reply to: dandandat2

Makes me think it’s part of the plan

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

Think globally act locally; change the world? Thats just a slogan; no individual human being (or maybe very few) can worry about all the wrong in the world. Its an impossible ask.

Most people can do is think local and act local; the rest of the globe gets better over time if more and more people fix up their local.

And thats why this new normal in America is so dangerous.

Everyone has their bias and bigotry; its simply impossible for any individual to be so empathic or telepathic that they can understand the full prospective of another. Their prospective will always be more dominant. And from there bias and bigotry will always exist.

The dream of a "post rascal" world isn't a world where everyone sheds their bigotry; its a world where everyone is tolerant of each other*.

There are thousands of different cultures in this world and I can't be a historian of all of them. But I can be tolerant of them; I can celebrate them and celebrate with them...

... but in America's new normal even doing that now makes me a racist or a sexist. There comes a point where the most moral or good amongst us are just going to give up.


* lets leave outlier situation out of the conversation. No you shouldn't be tolerant of pedophiles and such.

a reply to: dandandat2

I'm not sophisticated enough to know what "two spirit people" are, having only one myself.

What a mess....never saw this coming at all...

a reply to: dandandat2

Huh?

There is nothing thinking local about a turtle with a straw in its nose.

If people can't tell the difference between a real issue and a story about a solitary incident, or something that happens to 50 people in the US per year then we are lost.

Why would I be tolerant of everyone? What if I work hard and have a farm and live from everything on my own land, and then someone comes with others and takes it....or tries to. Should I be tolerant?

originally posted by: MykeNukem
a reply to: dandandat2

I'm not sophisticated enough to know what "two spirit people" are, having only one myself.

What a mess....never saw this coming at all...

It means:

“Two-spirit” refers to a person who identifies as having both a masculine and a feminine spirit, and is used by some Indigenous people to describe their sexual, gender and/or spiritual identity

While I guessed at what 2 spirits meant; I still had to look it up to be sure.

I did feel like I was being racist when I imagined it might have had something to do with indigenous people. But it turns out that is one of its meanings, per google. Turns out I wasn't being racist.

Honestly I didn't use the word "indigenous" in my mind; I thought "Native American" so I guess I am a little racist.

But at least I didn't imagine the word "Indian" .

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: dandandat2

Huh?

There is nothing thinking local about a turtle with a straw in its nose.

If people can't tell the difference between a real issue and a story about a solitary incident, or something that happens to 50 people in the US per year then we are lost.

Why would I be tolerant of everyone? What if I work hard and have a farm and live from everything on my own land, and then someone comes with others and takes it....or tries to. Should I be tolerant?

Maybe; why did they take your land?

originally posted by: dandandat2

originally posted by: MykeNukem
a reply to: dandandat2

I'm not sophisticated enough to know what "two spirit people" are, having only one myself.

What a mess....never saw this coming at all...

It means:

“Two-spirit” refers to a person who identifies as having both a masculine and a feminine spirit, and is used by some Indigenous people to describe their sexual, gender and/or spiritual identity

While I guessed at what 2 spirits meant; I still had to look it up to be sure.

I did feel like I was being racist when I imagined it might have had something to do with indigenous people. But it turns out that is one of its meanings, per google. Turns out I wasn't being racist.

Honestly I didn't use the word "indigenous" in my mind; I thought "Native American" so I guess I am a little racist.

But at least I didn't imagine the word "Indian" .

I don't look things up to see if I'm being racist.

I'm not racist. No need to look it up.

Easy, right?

Is it ok to call Indians, Indians? Or do we have to specify the "East", then it isn't racist?

SMH at this BS...

What’s the point of celebrating this anyways? It’s bad enough the advertisements and all the woke ones want to jam how great being gay is down your throat non stop 24-7 why celebrate brain washing?

a reply to: dandandat2

Everyone should celebrate PRIDE in their own way this month. I'm PROUD of my son for overcoming hurdles and graduating college. I'm sure each of us has at least thing to celebrate our PRIDE in this month.

a reply to: dandandat2

It used to be one night, and was called Gay And Lesbian Mardi Gras...

Now it's a month long racist event!

The times, they are a changin'....

I think this is revisionism. Trying to insert race into history where it has been unmentioned and no one cared!

Gay pride was the origins back in the 1970s (and before) in the Great US of A. It came out of Stonewall riots in the 1970s. Formed into Gay and Lesbian Pride in the 80's and 90's.

In those days the term LGBTI (etc) was not used in any meaningful sense. Gay men and lesbian don't mix and the issues surrounding them were different. In the UK, for example, male homosexuality was an offence as it involved anal sex, while it was never an offence to be a lesbian. However, gays and lesbains found common cause in the fight for the "right to be".

Both groups esp. lesbians think the current trans stuff is unhelpful. I know a gay man who is just gay - he's got nothing in common with trans and does not knowingly know any lesbians. I also know a lesbian couple who think the current trans debate is anti-women and an affront to what feminism has fought for over the decades.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

But yeah....let's all stop using plastic straws because a turtle had one stuck in its nose.

That was not , ahem , accidental per the turtle.

a reply to: paraphi

I know quite a few lesbians and every one of them are completely dismayed and bewildered by the whole LGBT - or whatever acronym is currently in vogue - thing.
They do the lesbian scene thing a bit but that's it.
They have the same cares and concerns as anyone else and they just want to get on with their lives and be treat as equals - nothing special or different - as anyone else.
And they should be treat as equals, no different, no discrimination but no special treatment.

I personally am sick of seeing over-the-top, camp people paraded everywhere I look and rainbow stickers, flags, laces and other paraphernalia on every building, vehicle or wall.
I don't give a toss what consenting adults get up to in the privacy of four walls etc but I don't want to be bombarded with gay pride stuff as part of the woke agenda.

I really am getting sick of it all....and I know I am not the only one, far from it.

Is there going to be a backlash against all this woke nonsense?
Is that all part of the plan?