ChiCom Military Scientist Filed COVID Vaccine Patent BEFORE Pandemic Began *EDIT*

a reply to: rickymouse

Greetings rickymouse,

I know it is important to do this research, but when people believe their labs are secure, they are mistaken, it is lucky that this virus is not that bad for most people, next time it could be a lot worse.

Well, this news article had me raising my eyebrows as in "Oh no, this is not a good sign".

China to build over two dozen bio labs like Wuhan Institute in next 5 years

In the next few years, the world could see almost 60 maximum security Level 4 virology labs in operation. The Guangdong province announced in May that it was planning to build between 25 to 30 biosafety labs in the next five years.

That almost made me need to change my Depends adult diaper..Ha! The article content is far too verbose and full of numerous "tweets" etc... so no, I didn't check it out in exact detail.... but it is worthy of note. And since it is fairly suppressed news, and not brought light in MSM and denied by CCP authorities makes me wonder even more.

Oh indeed, there WILL be another "oopsadaisy", it got out event. Guaranteed, especially if China is really moving forward on these numerous level 4 research sites. Why in God's name is more than ONE needed? And the need for that ONE is questionable too... outlaw the whole lot of them I say. Burn them all to the ground world wide I say, but I am an angry old fart lately too.

Again, when it happens again, with a much nastier disposition towards mankind... 10 to 15% lethality rates.... the same questions will come up.

Accidental, or on purpose?

Pravdaseeker

a reply to: pravdaseeker

So this makes me think one thing, the Release of the pandemic into the population of Wuhan was NOT accidental.

It was done so as to create plausible deniability for the Chinese while they allowed it to spread to many other nations in order to deliberately create a pandemic.

Disgusting but I think this bit of evidence is the nail in the coffin, the world has to accept that they have got to do something about China it has already perpetrated an act of international terrorism and in fact an act of war by this release.

a reply to: LABTECH767

Hold your horses, Grasshopper.
There is way too much meddling by the US 3 letter agencies, to just blame the Chinese. Either you want justice or just another war to fill the pockets of a few. If it is the latter, you might not want to jump to conclusions until you have real proof, not just anecdotal or circumstantial proof.

Are you absolutely a hundred percent sure your claim is true?
Because if not, this time it will not be forgotten that there was aggression without proof of wrongdoing...

If the USA goes through with their MO on this one, I have a hunch there are some traps put in place to catch them red-handed.

You have been warned...

a reply to: Terpene

Actually true, was it a deliberate plan and the Chinese were just the patsy and willing partner in this crime?.
If so who is the cabal responsible for this and will they ever be brought to justice?.

a reply to: LABTECH767

One thing is for sure, the "cabal" does not think in terms of Chinese or USA. These are just tools to steer the masses.

Who is responsible for this mess?
It is easy to blame some Chinese lab, but in reality we, every freedom loving citizen, did this to ourselves. We let government imply draconian measures, over a virus for which starting a war over is ridiculously dumb and will be much more lethal than the Virus itself.
We bend to the will of our leaders because we are afraid of the repression, we appeal to authority and stop thinking for ourselves.

The mess we are in is not to blame on anyone, and If this was indeed a Bio-Attack it is laughable, and if it was an error...well accidents happen. There is also a fringe conspiracy, that lime disease escaped a lab on Plum Island accidentally.
I don't see the Virus as a threat, yet other parts of our system have revealed themselves to be a threat, but YMMV.

originally posted by: pravdaseeker
a reply to: incoserv

Hello incoserv,

Don't know if I agree with your "train of thought"; but I do understand where you are coming from, and can't blame you either for having these feelings.

Yeah, I agree with the "y'all didn't see this coming?" Ha! Yep, spot on I reckon.

I hope your bolt hole plan isn't needed to implement down the road. Because that would mean the situation has gotten really really bad most likely.

I think you "might" be suffering from prolonged stress, or worries about how to take care of your family, which believe me is TOTALLY understandable too.

Even in my old age, 65, I want to make sure all is well and ok for my wife as we all try to navigate this bloody mess the world has been turned into.

Regardless of fault, blame, who did what when, it still is a stinking rotten mess.... and people who think they are god/gods, who have been playing at being God, have created this mess, be it in genetics, finances, politics, you name it...

The cesspool is deep and chock full of floaters.

Pravdaseeker

I'm 57. I lived outside of the US and disconnected from the politics and culture for almost 25v years. When I came back around 2008, I was appalled by the near total loss of any sense of civility. I began to realize how screwed up it had all become.

I wish I could say that I thought there was hope, but I don't. That cesspool, the floaters are the politicians. The water they float in ... that's the electorate that put them (or allowed them) into office.

My theory is that the alphabet groups released it in a way to frame the lab to regain power through the election that they were losing.

No such things as a coincidence and this was one after another where everything favored one person.

Maybe it was released by CIA agent in Wuhan to frame the Wuhan lab, considering Wuhan lab is the only Safety Level 4 lab in China. Who knows?

The MIC need war for profit. War with China will get them that profit they want. The lives of hundreds of millions of Americans be damned.

a reply to: pravdaseeker

I was told that her disappearance to this day by a Fed contact of mine, was a result of USA National Security Implications. That was told me back in the Spring of 2020. Connect the dots and it seems all related.

Then Bill gates smackdown, Fauci is now on the ropes, many stories now against China and this from back in the day.

Canadian government scientist under investigation trained staff at Level 4 lab in China

Xiangguo Qiu, her biologist husband and her students have not returned to work at the National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg, after being escorted out in July. RCMP are still investigating what was described by Public Health Agency of Canada as a possible 'policy breach.' (CBC)

a reply to: NeverendingStory

Nah, look her up and report back. Assuming that you can find her and her husband. Always slamming the USA?

Dr. Xiangguo Qiu,

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: pravdaseeker

So this makes me think one thing, the Release of the pandemic into the population of Wuhan was NOT accidental.

It was done so as to create plausible deniability for the Chinese while they allowed it to spread to many other nations in order to deliberately create a pandemic.

Disgusting but I think this bit of evidence is the nail in the coffin, the world has to accept that they have got to do something about China it has already perpetrated an act of international terrorism and in fact an act of war by this release.

This virus is not nearly as bad as they say it is, that was known already over a year ago. They played this virus up to make people fear and the whole making doctors put their patients on breathing tubes with this disease initially or sticking the elderly back into the nursing homes to spread it was what made this bad initially. incubating a person is not done with a lung infection till it is a critical need, it can cause more harm than good, but the three letter agencies told doctors to do it right away..which seems like sabatage to me to make things seem worse.

China would not release such a poor bio-weapon to spread around the world. Wait, with new labs being created they will find a good deadly virus shortly to release and they will release it elsewhere in the world near another lab so they won't get caught.

Has it occurred to anyone else that the Chinese know it's all going to be found out? That would explain why they are warning their citizens to prepare for a nuclear with the US.

originally posted by: ridgerunner
Has it occurred to anyone else that the Chinese know it's all going to be found out? That would explain why they are warning their citizens to prepare for a nuclear with the US.

Nuclear war is so horrible no one should promote it. Killing hundreds of millions of innocent civilians in both America and China is not something romantic.

a reply to: incoserv

Hello incoserve,

I too left the USA in 2012... I already do not recognise it, even from my distant land down under. My family and friends have all changed, and what used to be the norm, is the oddity .

I know I would not feel "at home", if I were to return there. It has changed too much for the bad.

The people base their all important vote on some silly reason, a particular "tweet"; or some policy promise that does no good at all for the nation and its people. And now, with the truth coming out about voting machines.. HA! That all important vote don't amount to a heap of poop.

Yeah, it is weird as all get out to me.

Pravdaseeker

a reply to: chr0naut

Hello again chr0naut,

In reply to your advocation of Wikipedia........

Wikipedia Co-Founder: Site’s Neutrality Is ‘Dead’ Thanks to Leftist Bias

Larry Sanger, the co-founder of Wikipedia, published a blog post this month declaring that the online encyclopedia’s “neutral point of view” policy is “dead” due to the rampant left-wing bias of the site. Noting the article on President Donald Trump, Sanger contrasted its extensive coverage of presidential scandals with the largely scandal-free article on former President Barack Obama.

Sanger also criticized Wikipedia’s coverage of religion and other controversial topics. After Fox News reported on his blog post, many Wikipedians ignored the bias Sanger identified and instead responded by attacking the conservative outlet as well as Sanger.

On May 14, Sanger published a blog piece titled “Wikipedia Is Badly Biased” and started by declaring Wikipedia’s “Neutral Point of View” policy dead. Having founded the online encyclopedia with Jimmy Wales and having been involved in the original drafting of the policy, Sanger offered particular insight into its development and its practice in recent years. On the current policy’s rejection of providing “equal validity” to different views, Sanger stated this went directly against the original policy’s intent and that “as journalists turn to opinion and activism, Wikipedia now touts controversial points of view on politics, religion, and science.”

Here you have the member of the original team calling wikipedia leftist biased site now....

Again, I rest my case.

Pravdaseeker

Is he really dead? Or living it up on one of their manufactured islands?

a reply to: pravdaseeker

Well this certainly makes one just wonder what REALLY was going on when covid started up...

How is it I never wondered about a damn thing? I must be the biggest
know it all alive? Or maybe I'm psychic? Maybe I'm just one of the well
informed? Maybe I was just lucky every time I made a call?. Or maybe
it was just common sense? Or maybe it was just a combination of two
of these? Who can't guess which two are most likely?

Looking more and more like there was most likely some truly evil, premeditated things going on.

Just now? Blahaha Bahha Blahhahaha

originally posted by: pravdaseeker
a reply to: myselfaswell

Hello myselfaswell,

HA! Crazy stuff mate!

Sadly as I age, and the hair disappears from on top and starts from the nostrils and ears...(HA!) That avatar is getting close to looking like a PHOTO of me!

Except the monkey is more handsome.

Pravdaseeker

I sold my AMC shares yesterday so it doesn't look like me any more lol

a reply to: pravdaseeker

Well, that explains why so few deaths in China.

The riddle is solved.