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Your Guide to The Great Convergence.

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posted on Jun, 7 2021 @ 10:57 AM
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Like so many things, Im not necessarily against the direct biological integration of technology into our bodies.

However..

Until we are coming from a framework where this will actually be used to complement who we are as a species, rather than "fix our problems," I believe it would be literally one of the worst mistakes we could ever make. We havent even really learned how to create productive & beneficial social media yet!

We have far, far too much to learn about ourselves as a species to make that jump any time soon. And in that process, we might find that transhumanism itself is little more than hubris. Meaning that our biology & physiology may be capable of some sort of technological integration *without* putting circuits, chips, and electronics into our bodies. We actually see glimpses of this already, with some brain-machine interfaces, but Im talking about things that are far beyond that.

Now, thats just talking about ideal situations and possibilities.. What is presented here though is blatantly and clearly for control. Its not even really hidden.

And therein lies one of the major issues facing our world; the weaponization of ideals. People are led to believe that their individual "best case scenario" for anything from environmentalism & sustainable development to equality & transhumanism are relevant to what is actually happening or going to happen.

This is simply not true.

Itd be like if, at the time of the invention of the hammer, everyone was led to believe it could build amazing things. Because it can! But how it will actually be deployed is as a centrally controlled weapon that will do little more than break bones and crack skulls. Of course, if you are against this, the marketing will state you are against building things (the ideal) rather than being against the violence (the reality).

There is so much nuance to how we adopt tools as a species. Personally, I believe the only way to beneficially move forward at our current stage is to empower, enable, and educate folks at the individual level. The historical approach and pattern of thinking one social group will somehow be more "responsible" in wielding power in this way is not only foolish.. It is arguably at the core of nearly every issue we face.



posted on Jun, 7 2021 @ 12:45 PM
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a reply to: karl 12

Thanks! Yes, once I learned some of Catherine's background history it all started making better sense on why she's been so heavily censored. I heard even the mere mention of her name on Tik Tok is censored. Crazy times we live in now.


August 1939. Josephine County, Oregon. "New sign, erected seven years after Howard Scott talked of a survey of North America and formation of 'energy units,' which had widespread vogue in the early years of Depression."
Photo source: Technocracy Inc.: 1939



www.etymonline.com...

Technocracy Inc. - The organization is non political and active members of political parties are not allowed to belong to Technocracy. Wealth of info on that site.

Techies Have Been Trying to Replace Politicians for Decades



Technocracy Inc. formed in 1931 to promote the ideas of Howard Scott. Scott saw government and industry as wasteful and unfair and believed that an economy run by engineers would be efficient and equitable. He called for the "price system" and fiat currencies to be replaced with a system based on how much energy it takes to produce specific goods. Scott called for engineers to run a continental government, which he termed a technate, to "optimize the use of energy to assure abundance." Virtually unknown today, the organization boasted over half a million members in California alone at its peak in the 1930s and 1940s.

Somewhere along that ~80 year span it all got twisted and inverted into an oligarchy of big data technocrat rulers.



posted on Jun, 7 2021 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: zosimov

The Bible is pretty clear on what Hell is, I don't understand why people will take a verse, like "Do to others as you'd have them do to you" and rack their brains trying to decipher what Jesus really said, when it's clear He is talking about karma in so many words.

Why is there this need to break down the Bible, incorrectly, in order to say "oh there's no hell, there's no heaven, it's all metaphorical and hyperbole and just parables and fairy tales told by someone who really wasn't God's son but a figment of his own imagination".... When it's cut and dry that He is the son of God, there is a heaven above and a hell below...

Volcanoes and lava, underground caverns as big as cities, hollow earth, government experiments on chimeras and E.T. forgetting the number, amazing what people will believe and what they want believe.

Oh, and Jesus said keep your eyes to the sky, so you God haters make sure to keep your heads in the dirt...we'll...let you know...if...anything...happens...



posted on Jun, 7 2021 @ 01:56 PM
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a reply to: EdisonintheFM

Well said, though we do not believe in Re-incarnation as Our Lord said that is given for a man (or woman he also said there is no difference between a man and a woman in the resurrection) to be born once then to die (He that believeth in me shall never die and he that believeth in me and is dead yet shall he live) then the resurrection.

But many sect's including some Gnostic sects of our own faith do, many believe in it literally and there are some compelling accounts from around the world, I still do not believe it however though I do believe in the soul and that there is an afterlife or should we maybe say LIFE after Death which is more accurate.

Some have even argued the wheels of Ezekiel's chariot were no other than the pagan model of the wheel of Dharma or Reincarnation but obviously that is wrong as is the claim that Jacob's ladder with the angels ascending and descending alluded to souls going to be born and then going back to the father as it was literal Angels.

But you can forgive when you remember that many people have past life memories, even I have had a few experiences with that but I know the most vivid was a soul or perhaps a demon passing through me and I forgot everything I thought I had remembered along the sudden clarity of mind and purpose it had given me (it had not given me anything just taken me over for a short time as a small boy) and when we drove a certain distance (I was in the back of my mother's car and she was horrified at my personality change with the hairs standing up on the back of her neck and me pointing out places, shop's and public houses before we got to them in a town I had never been before) the spirit whose memories they really were left me unable to keep hold of me so I became that little boy again, I remember trying to keep hold of the memory's but they were not mine so?.

I believe sometimes spirit's act as guides, think of them as sometimes temporary guardian angels but at other times they are malign and driven by there own interests, this can mean that people whom are partially tapped into the memory's of these hitch hiker spirit's may think those memories are there own when in fact they are not.

What is more I wonder at the harm some of these hitch hiker spirit's can do, perhaps even stunt the development of the soul whose body they have chosen to inhabit without permission, cause mental problem's, alter there VICTIMS nature, trait's and personality and ultimately foul up another persons life.

Jesus did not cast every spirit out only the evil ones but he obviously could see them, if they were ever human (And I do not buy the fundamentalist view that death is death and we have to wait in absolute darkness for the resurrection as that is bull, I believe in the afterlife and that there are NON demonic bad people and also non angelic good people over there just as there are here) then perhaps his words EVEN THOUGH HE WERE DEAD YET SHALL HE LIVE make a lot more sense.

God is a Spirit he said it himself.

I see reincarnation unless it is an act of God as a form of possession plain and simple, it is not a natural behaviour but perhaps something a demon would do even to a sleeping innocent soul they had taken and use it to corrupt and destroy a new born over the course of there life perhaps with the intent of creating unnatural gestalts of spiritual energy.

But ultimately the only one who actually knows is our Lord.


The image of the Beast is a ROBOT, it has the power to move, to kill.

Who is working on creating such abominations, as long as they serve the well being of humanity fine but when they are designed to destroy humanity they are a sword that wields itself and is given a purpose based on the evil intentions of there creators.

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posted on Jun, 7 2021 @ 02:11 PM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

I didn't mean to imply reincarnation, if I did.

Here's my take on the "afterlife", based on what I've learned and my interpretation of it: each one of us will be given a planet to rule over....that's it. To me that explains the always expanding universe, and all the planets/stars. Will they all be human after us? Maybe not exactly, but the two legs, two arms, location of the ears and eyes, yes. Wasn't it the white coats at Honda that said they tried different positions for the eyes on their future DARPA soldier, come on, you all know that's what it is, and it turns out that a humanoid's eyes are best set like ours...uh maze zing...

All I can say is the Creator knew what He was doing, and white coats on Earf confirmed it, so it must be true, cuz....science and stuff...

If Hawking had said right before death there is a God, would he still be held up on a pedestal. Or shun by "Science" and the cast and creators of "The Big Bang Theory"...

To each his own.
Thanks God for Freewill.



posted on Jun, 7 2021 @ 03:14 PM
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a reply to: EdisonintheFM

You're taking an speculative comment way too seriously.

Though you can be sure that anyone who chooses to artificially extend life and subvert death is choosing to turn his/her back on God's promise of life after death.

Anyway the Bible mentions receiving the same amount of judgement one has given out, so I'd be cautious before throwing out judgements so callously.



posted on Jun, 7 2021 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: zosimov

I wasn't judging, just making an observation and giving my opinion.

If I say I don't think red looks good on you, I'm not judging you for wearing it. But there's plenty of people that would be offended.

Sometimes people read too much in my comments, I get it.




posted on Jun, 8 2021 @ 04:11 PM
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originally posted by: EndtheMadnessNow

DJ and Catherine Austin Fitts: The Fight For the Future - Transhumanist Depopulation & Space Surveillance




Some interesting info in that interview mate - especially about expenditure on underground bases and continuacy of government (and transhumanism).

Bit of a loooong watch but did think this film was a relevant one.








posted on Jun, 8 2021 @ 07:41 PM
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a reply to: karl 12

You know I've had that bookmarked in my cue for later viewing from 2 yrs ago and never got around to watching it all.

The title reminds me of the book "Fire in the Minds of Men"

Excerpt from the lengthy book, pg 6:


A recurrent mythic model for revolutionaries-early romantics, the young Marx, the Russians of Lenin's time was Prometheus, who stole fire from the gods for the use of mankind. The Promethean faith of revolutionaries resembled in many respects the general modern belief that science would lead men out of darkness into light. But there was
also the more pointed, millennia! assumption that, on the new day that was dawning, the sun would never set. Early during the French upheaval was born a "solar myth of the revolution," suggesting that the sun was rising on a new era in which darkness would vanish forever. This image became implanted "at a level of consciousness that simultaneously interpreted something real and produced a new reality." The new reality they sought was radically secular and stridently simple. The ideal was not the balanced complexity of the new American federation, but the occult simplicity of its great seal : an all-seeing eye atop a pyramid over the words Novus Ordo Seclorum.

What is the statue at Rockfeller Center in Manhattan, NYC? The fire is only for the chosen intellectual "illuminated ones."

Here's some more relevant info...

The New Eugenics: Transhumanism and the Myth of the 4th Industrial Revolution



The 're-organization' of the world's societies, cultures, economies and politics seem to be occurring at a rapidly intensifying pace.

But this juggernaut of pathological group-think did not spring up overnight, and did not come from nowhere. Someone, and their groups, had to have come up with the "scientific" and philosophical doctrines that dictated the "logic" and "reasoning" behind such transhumanist, socialist, authoritarian and eugenic policies and developments as we're seeing today. In this edition of MindMatters, Matthew Ehret puts some giant historical figures in a whole new light, and shows how these famous personalities' thinking and huge influence have shaped an agenda for control that is as pervasive as it is monstrous.
www.youtube.com...

In the video he connects alot of dots with discussion on the dark psychology of these elite players.

Article links by Matthew Ehret from the 104 min video discussion on the origins and history::

Part 1: How The Unthinkable Became Thinkable: Eric Lander, Julian Huxley And The Awakening of Sleeping Monsters

Part 2: Eugenics, The Fourth Industrial Revolution and the Clash of Two Systems

Part 3: From Russell and Hilbert to Wiener and Harari: The Disturbing Origins of Cybernetics and Transhumanism

Matthew is the co-founder and director of Rising Tide Foundation based out of Montreal Canada.



posted on Jun, 9 2021 @ 07:58 AM
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a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

Once again thanks for the links mate and illuminating discussion about the Rockefeller's fixation with Prometheus.

Regarding books then author Gerald Feinberg also sounds like a pretty well connected chap and looks like his 1969 book 'The Prometheus Project' is being used as some kind of instructional manual.






Did you know the “goal” to create a transhuman universal consciousness hive mind via technology was openly admitted in the late 1960s?

The release of Dr. Gerald Feinberg’s “The Prometheus Project” in 1969 conveniently overlapped MK Ultra and the push for Violence Project, Woodstock and the counter culture movement, the Vietnam war draft, and so many social changes… It was also the same year that Dr. Jose Delgado’s “Physical Control of the Mind: Toward a Psychocivilized Society” was published. None of this is a coincidence.




Also thought this very short audio history of Hegel (and his dialectic) brought up some relevant points about 'rich industrialists'.




posted on Jun, 9 2021 @ 01:39 PM
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originally posted by: EdisonintheFM
a reply to: LABTECH767

I didn't mean to imply reincarnation, if I did.

Here's my take on the "afterlife", based on what I've learned and my interpretation of it: each one of us will be given a planet to rule over....that's it. To me that explains the always expanding universe, and all the planets/stars. Will they all be human after us? Maybe not exactly, but the two legs, two arms, location of the ears and eyes, yes. Wasn't it the white coats at Honda that said they tried different positions for the eyes on their future DARPA soldier, come on, you all know that's what it is, and it turns out that a humanoid's eyes are best set like ours...uh maze zing...


A planet to "RULE" over sounds pretty Mormo to me!
You're LDS am I right?

Also which ever "god" got this planet must be on vacation cause the crazies are running the asylum!
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posted on Jun, 9 2021 @ 01:47 PM
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Now while I do believe there is an Agenda actual true Transhumanism will be a failure.

One reason...

You cannot quantify, measure or trans-fer the soul or essence of consciousness.

When attempting to "upload" your brain you will create duplicate of yourself that duplicate will have the same memories you have (or not cause brains are not that efficient). It will think similar thoughts as you, prefer the same things you prefer. However it will not nor ever be you! That is what it really boils down to.

We will be able to create digital clones but they will never be an exact copy as the original will need to be eliminated!

This is Transhumanists will fail. But I do see sense in the agenda of hive mind for better control which will most likely be the outcome.



posted on Jun, 10 2021 @ 02:30 AM
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a reply to: MiaBandetoh

The crazies are people just like you that make wrong choices. Freewill.



posted on Jun, 10 2021 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: EdisonintheFM
a reply to: MiaBandetoh

The crazies are people just like you that make wrong choices. Freewill.



Not sure I follow you? What choices have I made that are wrong? And what about that makes me crazy?



posted on Jun, 11 2021 @ 02:03 AM
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Oh that wasn't aimed at you.

I'm referring to the crazy people in the news constantly.






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