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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: sapien82
Its the harmful to its own survival part i have issue.
Fair play virus exist in the micro universe, but at the macro scale we would seem to tick that box in spades. LoL
Without viruses through, life and the planet, as we know it would cease to exist, but it will get by just fine without us.
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: YongPeng
Proof of that might be nice.
Not that i wont at least entertain the prospect of a creator or creator force.
But until the big dude chimes up evolution is getting that derry.
We Humans are a sort of virus YongPeng at the macro scale, given what we do in spades in synonymous with such.
originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: YongPeng
aye isnt that the goal of a virus to not be so deadly as if its deadly it will kill off all of its potential hosts
and therefore wont be able to replicate
so over time if it becomes less deadly then it will be able to infect more hosts and continue to replicate and evolve
kind of how like some viruses transferred from being transmitted to sexually transmitted so it could infect more people.
It's goal is to remain alive and evolving
the thing that still bothers me is that the rate of replication would mean there are countless trillions of mutations that could occur and it always seems to be the 0.00000001% chance that the mutation is beneficial and makes it more deadly or harder to cure or whatever than the countless trillions that are not beneficial and actually cause its extinction.
or is it simply we dont report on the countless trillions that are not beneficial and only focus our news on the mutations that are making it more deadly or infectious etc
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: sapien82
Of all the things that can hurt us sapien82, im feart of what we will do, as opposed to anything nature decides to chuck in our direction.
We are designed to adapt and overcome, just maybe not ourselves.
We might just be our own great filter.
originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: FingerMan
The government of these totalitarian regimes' main flaw is that the first enemy is the people that they exploit, one wrong move in this numbers game and they know that they are history.
originally posted by: YongPeng
originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: YongPeng
I don't have to prove anything I didn't make the claim but I totally agree that whoever did sure as # should have the evidence to prove otherwise, but China could easily save face on international grounds could help prove that claim wrong by being as open and transparent as possible with the international investigation into the origins of the virus but no they decide to threaten the West with nuclear war.
That doesn't seem suspect in the slightest
There's nothing special about the virus. You can find coronavirus all over the place in birds, mammals including humans. It's been infecting humans for millennia. It's not a bio weapon.
If it's a bio weapon you can't even make a vaccine for it, it be like HIV which no vaccine works.
This is not to say China does not have bio weapon virus. China certainly has bio weapon virus. There is no vaccine that can be made against Chinese bio weapon virus. It is like HIV. No vaccine works against Chinese bio weapon virus.
originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: andy06shake
I'm thinking most of those civilisations from various historical periods who expanded too much and their empire fell from pressure , or they were wiped out via disease or lack of natural resources.
That's the thing that always makes me skeptical , if these civilisations were apparently so great and have high technology , then what the # happened to them all?
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: sapien82
Consider that the only thing we will leave around after a few 100,000 years should we disappear would be plastic, possibly trace amounts of nasty radiation here and there.
Life has been here for a while, if sentient life did exist on Earth it could well have simple disappeared down to geology and geography long before we were ever a twinkle in natures eye.
I would like to know the answers to those questions also sapien82 all the same.
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Nunyabizisit
Epochs somewhat transcend that right vs left simplistic ideology Nunyabizisit.
Change in inevitably in the post.
And the Earth dont give a rats arse as to our political motivations.
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Nunyabizisit
Our petty political, racial, religious and geographical squabbles are always ""very concerning"" Nunyabizisit.
Don't know what age you are mate but i simply cannot recall peace on Earth in all my 45 revolutions around the Sun.
Its simply a distraction so we don't see the real picture, divide and conquer 101, so as the status quo remain in place.
And "They" don't care much about imaginary lines on maps.