CDC investigating cases of heart inflammation in teens, young adults who got two-shot COVID vaccine.

a reply to: rickymouse

Oh it’s even worse than that: health providers are getting paid now, by the illegitimate and illegal Biden administration, $40 per covid “jab” that they administer.

So the medical community and pharmacies and WalMart have a reason to inject you, even if they know it’s harmful.

ETA: Not enough people were getting injected, so the payment to provides went from $18 to $40 per shot.

In my world 95% efficient means 100 people get the jab and only 5 go on to get the disease.

However the efficacy numbers they used are aound teh following.
23220 people get the jab ,
22340 dont,
of the initial 23220 vaccinated 225 go on to get the virus
of the 22340 unvaccinated 320 go in to get the virus.
The difference between those two groups is what they describe as 95%.
My numbers are slightly off but near enough for this.

95% efficient is not what you think it is

I think a lot of people who have taken the vaccine know in their subconscious that it's efficacy is overrated and it's risks are underrated. Hell COVID is pretty damn survival to almost every age group below 65 without compounding co-morbidities.

There is zero reason for any child or teenager to be given this experimental, not yet approved vaccine for a disease highly unlikely to cause major harm to them, unless they have some other serious compounding factor. I'm afraid that we're going to see more kids and teenagers dead from the vaccine than from the disease over the next couple of years. And the parents that allowed it to happen to their children deserve every bit of grief that they endure. I truly hope some of them lash out at the medical and political people that conned them into sacrificing their children on the dual altar to Molech and Mammon.

I hope with the passage of time my fears turn out to be unfounded about the risks of taking this vaccine. Even right now I concede that the known and unknown risks of the vaccine for the aged and the highly vulnerable are probably on balance a reasonable gamble. If your life expectancy is less than 20 years anyway what's it matter if the vaccine you take to protect you from something that, right now, is everywhere and has a high fatality rate for your age and risk factors kills you in ten years. You might have bought yourself 9 more years in the sun. The younger you go the less that balance plays in favor of the vaccine: 50-65 risky but maybe worth it if you have comorbidities, 40-49 (my age group) probably not worth it unless you have a major risk. I'm gonna stop before I get to my thoughts about forcing vaccines on those younger than 30 but lets just say that on a sliding scale from criminal to degenerately evil the lower you go.

On almost every post I write on the vaccines I've made it a point to say that I could be wrong and the fulness of time will prove that one way or another. My decision about not taking the vaccine is a balance between my and my families personal experience with COVID, almost everyone in my house had it, the risk factors that the people I care the most about have, the CFR in our age groups, and the known and unknown short and long term vaccine risks. Luckily in my home the only one who might end up getting it in the near future is my mother in law who is in her 70's and has COPD. She handled COVID pretty well when she had it but did have the roughest case of us all. It's entirely her decision, but I did ask her not to take it until 3 months from her having the infection have passed. My wife and I are thankfully on the same page as far as neither of us are going to take it and not just no but hell no on our kids. We can still change our minds though. The blind faith in media, politicians, and pharmaceutical companies the have demonstrably and repeatedly put money before public health amongst the general population is a bit disheartening, and to be honest the attitudes of several random folks asking about my vaccine status would have me rooting for ADE this fall if there weren't so many people I like and care about who've foolishly, I believe, decided to take the vaccine to get back to something close to a normal life. If the worst case scenario on the vaccine plays out they'll never admit they were fooled into taking the vaccine and will be trying to blame anyone but themselves for their predicament.

originally posted by: armitageshanks
In my world 95% efficient means 100 people get the jab and only 5 go on to get the disease.

However the efficacy numbers they used are aound teh following.
23220 people get the jab ,
22340 dont,
of the initial 23220 vaccinated 225 go on to get the virus
of the 22340 unvaccinated 320 go in to get the virus.
The difference between those two groups is what they describe as 95%.
My numbers are slightly off but near enough for this.

95% efficient is not what you think it is

That's not what 95% efficacy means.

Using your example numbers a 95% efficacy means if 320 people get ill in the control group then only 16 do so in the vaccinated group.

originally posted by: carewemust
What about when the Covid-19 vaccine is a component of "all shots required" for kids?

Same as usual.

Side effects? DENY any causality.

originally posted by: jerich0
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Are you doing it for a valid, proven and well researched reason? Or is it an "EMERGENCY" procedure, that they come to you for, and obediently provide their arm to?

So what's in the vaccine isn't bad then, only the reason for putting it into their body? I'm confused.

a reply to: jefwane

There are children who are more at risk, I would contemplate getting the vaccine for my child if they were in that category, but otherwise I would not.

a reply to: CrazyBlueCat

[My friend(42)got his vaccine and 4 days later after his second dose he was found dead at home. It’s been one month today that he died. He fully believed in this vaccine and that it was going to help us all get ‘back to normal’]

But science!

99% survival if you get it. Or take the vaccine and risk certain
death. Now pretend your in Vegas. What horse do you bet the
farm on?

News out of my home state concerning this topic...

Heart Problems Reported For 18 CT Teens After Coronavirus Vaccine

a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

And that's just very short term.

But the dumb asses don't know if the vaccine is to blame.
Because teens in CT always have heart problems. Like
every week. Totally a common occurrence. Like birthdays.

originally posted by: ATruGod

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

I've had my second dose of the COVID vaccine and I feel fine. I also have had my first dose of shingles vaccine, my second dose will be administered next month. And I get the flu vaccine every year; have been doing that for at least the past 10 years.

See you in years to come, if You're still alive!

Have You seen the studies for what happens when You start mixing these "vaccines"...Yeah no one else has either.

I'm going to remain in the "Control Group" thanks!!

As should be your right.

originally posted by: Randyvine
a reply to: CrazyBlueCat

[My friend(42)got his vaccine and 4 days later after his second dose he was found dead at home. It’s been one month today that he died. He fully believed in this vaccine and that it was going to help us all get ‘back to normal’]

But science!

99% survival if you get it. Or take the vaccine and risk certain
death. Now pretend your in Vegas. What horse do you bet the
farm on?

So we have 99% survival of covid, what's the survival rate of the covid vaccine? 99.99%? So if you can bet on one, which one is better, 99% or 99.99%?

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

You obviously built Vegas.

a reply to: Randyvine

So no actual reply to which is better, 99% or 99.99%?

Sorry but 65% of new cases are those who are fully vaccinated!
a reply to: Mantiss2021

My Daughter is a Teacher in FL USA and is young. She got the moderna vaccine. Nothing has happen to her yet, but she has not been to a Doctor for a checkup yet. Hope nothing like that happens to her.

I will remain in the control group. I dont think I will provide pfizer and friends free R&D.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: myselfaswell

Because the vaccine is up to 95% effective. That means at least 5% of people who get it are not protected.

They need to figure out quickly how to identify those people for whom even their miracle "vaccine" is useless, so they can stay in a protective bubble, like others with conpromised immune systems do.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Randyvine
a reply to: CrazyBlueCat

[My friend(42)got his vaccine and 4 days later after his second dose he was found dead at home. It’s been one month today that he died. He fully believed in this vaccine and that it was going to help us all get ‘back to normal’]

But science!

99% survival if you get it. Or take the vaccine and risk certain
death. Now pretend your in Vegas. What horse do you bet the
farm on?

So we have 99% survival of covid, what's the survival rate of the covid vaccine? 99.99%? So if you can bet on one, which one is better, 99% or 99.99%?

Just assuming those were the actual numbers, if we were one hive and it made sense to make the same decision for everyone, the vaccine would make sense.

Since pharmaceutical science is, clearly, still in its infamcy, whipping up "one size fits all" baccines for use by an entire population, varied in genetics, body chemistry, diet, underlying health conditions, etc.

Nobody bothers to even think about variances when designing their vaccines (since the monetary reward is based strictly on how many you can sell, with zero liability for deaths, lifelong health issues, etc caused by vaccines.)

As such, it would behoove anyone who has a better understanding of their own personal risks than medical science does (which is to say, "nearly everyone"), to make their own decision.

Personally, my father was killed by an autoimmune disorder caused by a flu vaccine reaction. It took 2 years and multiple hospitalizations to get him, but it got him. Was too young, and too healthy before it all began, and hadn't had a shut-down illness since we were little kids bring the annual school germs home.

My brother and I both had similar allergic/immune responses to a particular antibiotic as my father had. We've both had kidney stones, myself twice - another health profile item shared with Dad. Too close genetically for me to be rolling the dice on a COVID vaccine after the horrors my father went through from a flu vaccine.

On top of that, my wife had the Rona early in the pandemic, not long after the 2nd & 3rd known cases were brought to our neck of the woods in the US from Wuhan - thanks to the WHO recommending we continue lettig people fly all over the world from Wuhan, because "no evidence of human to human transmission." They should have been fuel-air bombing Wuhan if they had no idea how it jumped from the 4 hospitalized lab workers to thousands of people in Wuhan in such a short time.

Later, 40/50 of my co-workers all got the Rona together. I didn't.

I never had so much as a scratchy throat, but my donated blood qualifies for use as convalescent plasma donations (which I'm doing.) Plenty of antibodies.

I'm clearly at extremely low risk of getting sick from COVID, but definitely at higher than average risk for being harmed/killed by the vaccine. Not everyone would be, but *I* as an individual would have to be an absolute idiot to be willing to take that vaccine.

If we get to a point where the choice isn't ours, it's proof of the end of freedom, and I'm willing to go down in a hail of bullets. These ****heads don't own me, and they'll certainly HAVE to kill me if they ever come to think they own my children.

I don’t know what is true or what isn’t anymore. What I do know is that my risk for contracting the virus and becoming seriously ill are almost non existent. Knowing that, why would I be eager to go out to get this jab? I’m not anti vax, I’ve had plenty, I don’t get the flu shot yearly largely because it’s mostly ineffective and I’ve never had the flu that I know of. I been sick a few times here and there, but immune system does a pretty good job of fighting off colds/flus all by itself.

I’m in Canada, there’s a lot of public shaming and negative attacks going on to those who choose to sit this one out. I don’t get it, if this vaccine works and is 95% effective, you are mostly protected if you have yours, why the hell are you so concerned about me? I will be watching from the sidelines and there are no long term effects after 3-5 years I may consider the jab, but for now I will watch in dismay as I see people running around trying to get this thing. Good luck and god bless.