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There can be no peaceful resolution.....so how does this story end?

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posted on May, 19 2021 @ 08:37 PM
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a reply to: dandandat2

Freedom should never be boring.



posted on May, 19 2021 @ 08:37 PM
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a reply to: GoShredAK

It started with Obama, the divider in chief, and continued through and into the present. Before Obama we were all Americans. Now it is communists vs patriots.



posted on May, 19 2021 @ 08:47 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: dandandat2

Freedom should never be boring.


Freedom no; incessant arguing about how every minor social infraction is a fatal blow to Freedom and/or human rights can get very boring.



posted on May, 19 2021 @ 09:50 PM
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a reply to: GoShredAK

It's a lot of vitriol and social trends.

But mainly the catalyst for this polarization IMO is copy/paste to any time there is a shift from "old ways".

Using the United States as an example I can think of several instances similar to this.

Emancipation. Suffrage. Desegregation. LGBT rights.

We're still dealing with that last one as a general "liberal progressive takeover".

And I base this on what a marine told me why he was voting for Trump.

In 2016 I met an instructor at Camp Pendleton just absolutely losing it at an order to run a sensitivity workshop on Transgender recruits. The general tone was "Kill Hillary and her rainbow tainted campaign and it will stop turning the service into a touchy feely emotional candy cane school."

Of all the annoying things the left were doing to bolster the appeal of Trump and push apart the divide it was the things that made people uncomfortable and pissed that accomplished the most.

Now it's at:

Left: "We want a diverse lady gaga society of inclusion and dragqueens"

Right: "Well we want Reagan back and you to stop making the federal government tell us what to value."

Left: "Now we are going to freak out because you won and spend 4 years trying to stop everything you do"

Right: "Okay, we are going to do it anyway. Cry about it in a rainbow flag"

Left: "That's fine we will just capitalize on social issues and use our media properties to paint you all as racist backwards monsters that support white nationalism"

Right: "Fine your now Satanic socialists trying to overthrow christian and traditional values, and you will subvert democracy to stop us from stopping you".

And that pretty much where the divide is at. An organic impasse that needs a global doom porn disaster (greater than a pandemic) and Will Smith to bring people back together temporally.
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posted on May, 19 2021 @ 11:09 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: GoShredAK




I believe our best chance for peace lies within, beyond this life....


That requires a little more explanation....are we talking Armageddon, the apocalypses, 2nd coming,
revolution and blood in the streets, alien starchild saviors, what?



Those are all good options. I think our destination may be somewhere in that list.

I was saying it may just be hell on earth until we finally get to leave behind our bodies and then everything will make sense.

So yes Armageddon, with or without aliens im not sure.



posted on May, 19 2021 @ 11:17 PM
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originally posted by: Hypntick
a reply to: GoShredAK

So you weren't around when Obama got started huh? It was just as bad, we just didn't have the pit so discourse was a bit more cordial and rules were enforced a bit more stringently. Other than that, no real change since then, even the couple of years I did lurking while Bush Jr. was in the White House still had a ton of political threads.


I was here for Obama, I may have posted my thoughts on him being a radical Muslim Infiltrating the country In a genius plan to destroy us from within.

Things were pretty extreme politically back then for sure, but I feel the Trump, now Biden era is a much heavier vibe.

Biden is so overtly unfit and shady it is outrageous.

Unprecedented insanity..
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posted on May, 19 2021 @ 11:30 PM
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originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: GoShredAK

Another "ATS ain't what it used to be" thread...

You know why?

Because all these crazy conspiracy theories we all had fun speculating about are actually happening, right now.



Lol truly they are.

I was thinking the other day how the Denver Murals are eerily making sense, and the guide stones are indeed the plan.



posted on May, 19 2021 @ 11:35 PM
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originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: GoShredAK

Now it's at:

Left: "We want a diverse lady gaga society of inclusion and dragqueens"

Right: "Well we want Reagan back and you to stop making the federal government tell us what to value."

Left: "Now we are going to freak out because you won and spend 4 years trying to stop everything you do"

Right: "Okay, we are going to do it anyway. Cry about it in a rainbow flag"

Left: "That's fine we will just capitalize on social issues and use our media properties to paint you all as racist backwards monsters that support white nationalism"

Right: "Fine your now Satanic socialists trying to overthrow christian and traditional values, and you will subvert democracy to stop us from stopping you".

And that pretty much where the divide is at. An organic impasse that needs a global doom porn disaster (greater than a pandemic) and Will Smith to bring people back together temporally.


I think that is exactly pretty much where the divide is at. Both sides only seeing cheap caricatures of their opposition.
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posted on May, 19 2021 @ 11:36 PM
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originally posted by: dandandat2
I think some time in the coming decades our children will be so over the political fighting their parents engage in for entertainment and will mend the devide because it has become boring.


I like your optimism I really do.

I could see that happening. Generation Z will just say we don't care about your politics boomers. Then they will all bond over GTA5 online and youtubing.



posted on May, 19 2021 @ 11:39 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: GoShredAK

It started with Obama, the divider in chief, and continued through and into the present. Before Obama we were all Americans. Now it is communists vs patriots.


I think maybe it started with Bush Jr and 9/11 false flag.



posted on May, 19 2021 @ 11:45 PM
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originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: GoShredAK


And that pretty much where the divide is at. An organic impasse that needs a global doom porn disaster (greater than a pandemic) and Will Smith to bring people back together temporally.


Well put s&f...good post.

That's exactly what I was thinking when I whipped this thread together during a few minutes of downtime from work.



posted on May, 19 2021 @ 11:47 PM
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originally posted by: GoShredAK

originally posted by: dandandat2
I think some time in the coming decades our children will be so over the political fighting their parents engage in for entertainment and will mend the devide because it has become boring.


I like your optimism I really do.

I could see that happening. Generation Z will just say we don't care about your politics boomers. Then they will all bond over GTA5 online and youtubing.


Perhaps I am being a bit narcissist but I was thinking more the next generation (Generation Alpha I think they call them) rather than Generation Z ... which happens to by my young kids age range rather than those who are in there teens right now. Those in there teens right now are getting an ear full and they understand what they are hearing; younger kids aren't equipped to understand even if they hear the hyperbole.... and judging by my own kids reaction they don't understand why we all can't just be friends. They are going to remember that at a time where they had to ware makes and hide in their homes all the grown-ups where being stupid and mean to each other.
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posted on May, 20 2021 @ 12:00 AM
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originally posted by: Butterfinger



“Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” - G. Michael Hopf


Sit back and wait 40 years for the new generation to ruin their kids lives then they will rise up and bring it back around.

Its been fun.


I think we're already on the edge of the hard times creating strong men. I can see that changing within 5 to 10 years. People are fed up with weaklings destroying cities, it's just a matter of time before people rise up.



posted on May, 20 2021 @ 12:14 AM
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a reply to: Wide-Eyes




Because all these crazy conspiracy theories we all had fun speculating about are actually happening, right now.


That sucks really hard for a huge part of our population
that are now silent.

But sure were loud back when they could be. They couldn't
understand that the world is not what we've been led to believe.
The lies they believed tickled their ears so much they couldn't
hear the truth.


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posted on May, 20 2021 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: GoShredAK


I believe our best chance for peace lies within, beyond this life....


What’s peace worth if you have to die to get it? Especially considering all it would take for peace between people is a little bit of empathy and turning off the news.



posted on May, 20 2021 @ 09:45 AM
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I am no longer impressed with ATS, Deny Ignorance is no longer the motto. Now, I see them embracing ignorance and riding it like a pro. a reply to: GoShredAK



posted on May, 20 2021 @ 09:57 AM
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It more like the Athenian/ Spartan Dynamic, where the rule of thumb was more based on the ruling of philosophy an thought(Athens), while the other was more war oriented(Spartans) an causing a bit of a divide between the two, even though they belong to one land or nation.

Times sure have changed, the gun toting Tories sound more reasonable then said Liberal thinkers, even though it was reverse a decade ago, or before Obama at least. Before the Afghan War, PM Paul Martin only wanted to have Canadian Soldiers volunteer rather then constript the army, an his career didn't last long much after. While Bush Jr. claimed he had a vision of Jesus, God an Maggie or some biblical # to go to war.

Main reason why Trump was or should of been hated on, or imo anyways, was his resume. Since he wasn't an politician in the first place an was business owner. I will admit, I made fun of people for voting for him back then, thinking they were moronic but now, he sounds more professional or competent in comparison to his opposition whose had years in political field.

Power of the Press I guess.
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posted on May, 20 2021 @ 09:57 AM
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My guess is that Trump proves the election was stolen. And in 2022 he goes hot on the election trail for the Republicans and the Democrats lose spectacularly. And in 2023 the Republicans impeach both Biden and Harris. Still won't have the numbers in the Senate to remove them but they will be mostly figureheads until the 2024 election. And if Kamala doesn't take the Presidency in 2023 there won't be a VP until 2025. A Republican Senate won't confirm a Democrat. And Biden looks too shaky to go much longer.

Also when the Republicans take control I think there will be a new fairness in media act where the libel and slander laws in relation to the media are tightened up and their protections removed. Opinion needs to be labeled opinion or face punitive legal actions. And multiple offenses could lead to suspensions or outright bans for individuals and penalties for the parent organization up to a death penalty.

Oh, and add major election reforms on both the state and federal level.
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posted on May, 20 2021 @ 10:16 AM
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originally posted by: MayRenee
I am no longer impressed with ATS, Deny Ignorance is no longer the motto. Now, I see them embracing ignorance and riding it like a pro. a reply to: GoShredAK



it started downhill about mid July of '16.



posted on May, 20 2021 @ 10:19 AM
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a reply to: underwerks




What’s peace worth if you have to die to get it? Especially considering all it would take for peace between people is a little bit of empathy and turning off the news.


And who will put that empathy in the heart of the wicked?
Will it be you? Do you really think we don't have peace because
people watch the news? OP is pointing out that because of those
who have deceived us peace isn't possible in this world. So we
will never have peace until we're dead. But it isn't even your
fault if people like yourself never get it. I doubt it would
make much difference to destiny. The only difference to be
made now has to be from with in you for you. And the same for
all those who even now just don't get it.

Just think if there is no peace after we're dead either you dingy?

And yes it is possible.
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