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originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: J1mmyNeutron
It is Iran pulling Hamas String's, they want to distract and the world is distracted, watch my hand while my other hand does something else?.
Israel are being a bit heavy handed but they do have to protect themselves and Hamas is proving they have been stockpiling for a war by the sheer amount of ordnance they are launching toward Israel.
The problem is that there are extremists on both sides of that divide and both sets of extremists are as bad and as bloody as one another, it is always the kid's, the innocent guy that is just trying to live his life, the innocent girl that dies in these conflicts.
But.
Conflict is inevitable, if Israel back's down now it will just begin again in two, ten or even twenty years time and be even worse then than it will be now.
I feel sorry for the people in the Palestinian Territory's and for the Innocent Israeli's killed by Hamas rockets as well though far more innocent Palestinians are currently dying.
In the long run, realistically and not for political point scoring a two state solution is simply not possible as both sides want control of the same territory, the only viable solution is for Israel to become more democratic and to make those Palestinians Israeli citizens with full right's, end forced evictions (the Palestinians by and large also have Jewish ancestors so in God's sight it is there land as well after all so both sides need to forgive if never to forget and to realize they are brothers and sisters not aliens to one another), stop running over peace and human rights protestors with bulldozers and tank's and make the best of a SINGLE state solution that cares for and caters to all of it's people.
Culture smulture.
originally posted by: J1mmyNeutron
As far with most (not all) people, I've noticed the Israel-Palestine conflict is is a political cudgel used by the right and left.
If you're a right republican conservative, you're pro-Israel.
If you're a left democrat progressive, you're pro-Palestine.
If you're a left democrat progressive, you're pro-Palestine.
originally posted by: visitedbythem
If your dad gave you a home, complete with title, Im sure that none of you would mind if someone from outside your family, walked in the door and and moved into one of your bedrooms, then slapped you, each time they passed you on their way to your kitchen. That hot rod in the garage; your most prized possession, is now, according to them, one of their most prized possessions, and you need to stay away from it.
Unfortunately for you, after you had enough slaps, and your wife and kids went to the hospital, you told them, only one of them is allowed in the kitchen at a time now. It really pissed them off, so they all came at you, throwing punches. You foolishly decked a few of them, and now all your neighbors are screaming UNFAIR! UNFAIR!
Now its looking like your neighbors will be showing up on your doorstep to try and deck you, while demanding that you stay out of their kitchen.
This issue was brought to your dad's attention, and he is pissed. He is one bad ass, and he is on his way over to deal with the unwanted guests and the neighbors, since he owns the neighbors homes too.
Good luck to your guests and neighbors.
originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: J1mmyNeutron
If you're a left democrat progressive, you're pro-Palestine.
I disagree , if you've seen the injustice and theft perpetrated against the Palestinian people over a period of decades then chances are you're pro the Palestinians.
I support the people who have been wronged.
originally posted by: visitedbythem
If your dad gave you a home, complete with title, Im sure that none of you would mind if someone from outside your family, walked in the door and and moved into one of your bedrooms, then slapped you, each time they passed you on their way to your kitchen. That hot rod in the garage; your most prized possession, is now, according to them, one of their most prized possessions, and you need to stay away from it.
Unfortunately for you, after you had enough slaps, and your wife and kids went to the hospital, you told them, only one of them is allowed in the kitchen at a time now. It really pissed them off, so they all came at you, throwing punches. You foolishly decked a few of them, and now all your neighbors are screaming UNFAIR! UNFAIR!
Now its looking like your neighbors will be showing up on your doorstep to try and deck you, while demanding that you stay out of their kitchen.
This issue was brought to your dad's attention, and he is pissed. He is one bad ass, and he is on his way over to deal with the unwanted guests and the neighbors, since he owns the neighbors homes too.
Good luck to your guests and neighbors.
originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: J1mmyNeutron
I feel sorry for the people in the Palestinian Territory's and for the Innocent Israeli's killed by Hamas rockets as well though far more innocent Palestinians are currently dying.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
Both these sides are wrong, both Israel and Palestine have committed atrocities and abused their power
There is no forgiveness
Surprisingly everybody’s evil orange headed man settled this conflict down to manageable for a season
Miss those days
originally posted by: visitedbythem
If your dad gave you a home, complete with title, Im sure that none of you would mind if someone from outside your family, walked in the door and and moved into one of your bedrooms, then slapped you, each time they passed you on their way to your kitchen. That hot rod in the garage; your most prized possession, is now, according to them, one of their most prized possessions, and you need to stay away from it.
Unfortunately for you, after you had enough slaps, and your wife and kids went to the hospital, you told them, only one of them is allowed in the kitchen at a time now. It really pissed them off, so they all came at you, throwing punches. You foolishly decked a few of them, and now all your neighbors are screaming UNFAIR! UNFAIR!
Now its looking like your neighbors will be showing up on your doorstep to try and deck you, while demanding that you stay out of their kitchen.
This issue was brought to your dad's attention, and he is pissed. He is one bad ass, and he is on his way over to deal with the unwanted guests and the neighbors, since he owns the neighbors homes too.
Good luck to your guests and neighbors.
originally posted by: inosomthingudontno
LOL know right. Trump my president had historic peace deals in the middle east. Now bombs lol but Nothing to do with Biden right?
We live in clown world
originally posted by: J1mmyNeutron
My opinion was very similar, but I've come to ask myself, if I were a Palestinian, would I vote for Hamas year after year? And if so, what would compel me to do so?
A question worth asking by the empathetic. Need to understand the conflict from both sides of the aisle.