White Farmers Sue the Government for Racism

Heck Yeah! I'm 1000000% behind these farmers.

Racism is racism. Discrimination based on race is wrong no matter what race you are doing it to.

www.yahoo.com...

The lawsuit argues that the Constitution “forbids discrimination by the federal government against any citizen because of his race.” Therefore, according to the plaintiffs, any race-based classifications “must be subjected to the most rigid scrutiny.”

Look, I feel for Black Farmers that were truly discriminated against, and I do believe it happened way too much. Every single case should be looked into. Some states should be held accountable.

That does not mean what is happening to "correct" it is acceptable either.
I'll be watching this case closely to see what happens.

Farming is hard, and we all need to support all farmers, especially the small family farms that are being swallowed by the megafarms.
I'm going to make it a goal to buy as much as I can from local farmers.

Talk about biting the hand that feeds

a reply to: JAGStorm

I agree with. All farmers should get the same amount of assistance or none at all.

a reply to: JAGStorm

IDK it seems like the black farmer makes a good argument.

But in the end two wrongs never make a right. IDK

a reply to: JAGStorm

Here's where it's all coming from.

a reply to: JAGStorm

The best way to make racists is to make another group feel they are being treated unfairly.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Related - white farmer with spina bifida suing Biden Administration for the same discrimination mentioned in the OP - i believe part of the same lawsuit but I could be mistaken:

‘Out And Out Racist’: Dairy Farmer With Two Prosthetic Legs Sues Biden Administration For Basing Loan Forgiveness On Race

I hope they win-
it will open the flood gates for questioning the THOUSANDS of other racist laws and regulations written specifically to help minorities.

Black farmers got the same right to sell their produce at a price that causes them to be close to bankrupt every year just like white people do. Farming does not pay that great for all the hard work and risk involved. But people in the cities want cheap food, so farmers don't get what they should get for their products.

It's not the only place where the admin is discriminating. They are also openly basing COVID relief to small businesses off of race and gender too. People of the correct gender and race categories have preferred access to small business relief monies over white male applicants.

For 21 days,

SBA will accept applications from all eligible applicants, but only process and fund priority group applications. See “Priority groups” below.

...

Priority groups

A small business concern that is at least 51 percent owned by one or more individuals who are:
Women, or
Veterans, or
Socially and economically disadvantaged (see below).
Applicants must self-certify on the application that they meet eligibility requirements

Socially disadvantaged individuals are those who have been subjected to racial or ethnic prejudice or cultural bias because of their identity as a member of a group without regard to their individual qualities.

Economically disadvantaged individuals are those socially disadvantaged individuals whose ability to compete in the free enterprise system has been impaired due to diminished capital and credit opportunities as compared to others in the same business area who are not socially disadvantaged.

a reply to: ketsuko

Gotta pay the Kept Voter pool somehow, ya? Surely you didn't think folks voted for this crap absent kickbacks and expectations of direct financial compensation, did you?

Also, they kill the economy, and then attempt to rebuild it in the mold they want.

From the OP link:

John Boyd, president of the National Black Farmers Association, told Yahoo Finance that ... "I’ve been trying to get debt relief for Blacks and other farmers of color for over 30 years,” he said. “This wasn’t a new request at all. When I first heard about the [new lawsuit], I immediately thought about history where Blacks were enslaved, Native Americans lost all their land at the great of many white men.”

That's a emotionally compelling argument; some Blacks were enslaved and Native Americans lost all their land and those are nasty occurrences in American history. And yes many white men did become enriched as a result of that history.

What I have a hard time with is making the leap that because many white men where put at an advantage because of past transgressions why should that bar all white men from taking advantage of a federal program aimed to help farmers? For John Boyd and Joe Biden; does simply being white make these farmers responsible for what some white people did decades and centuries ago? Does one's skin color make them automatically guilty?

And the bigger issue is that the government can help disadvantage minorities with out ever having to walk this ethical line.

Black farmers, which account for 1.3% of the population, the Guardian reported. Those farmers own just 0.52% of farmland in the country, while making less than $40,000 a year (compared to white farmers who make over $190,000 annually).

All the federal government has to do is set up a program where the farm aid goes to the bottom percentage of annual income farmers. With out ever mentioning race; minority groups would predominantly get the aid since they make up the bottom income earners.

This approach wouldn't walk the ethical line where the federal government has to help or hinder people based solely on the color of their skin. And it would garner much more support and less challenges.

So my question is why don't liberals and democrats take this path of least resistance and ethically superior approach to accomplish their goals?

The only way I can reconcile this reality is that liberals and democrats don't care about minority farmers. They just want to use this as a wedge issue. Its this disingenuous approach that makes me dislike liberals and democrats more than conservatives and republicans. They take issues I would naturally care about and # all over them.

originally posted by: ketsuko
Also, they kill the economy, and then attempt to rebuild it in the mold they want.

...again, considering that "rebuild" almost always involves more government handouts and government directed spending, this isn't surprising at all... it's a gameplan that just ensures more voters feel dependent on the government for their spending needs, thus those Kept Voters are dependable to vote for those who will keep the money streams coming their way and not expect them to work for it beyond making sure they vote the right way.

a reply to: dandandat2

It's not about justice. It's about vengeance.

They don't want access on an equal basis. They want to do to whites what they think whites did to them, and yes, they do think any disadvantages they perceive in their lives are solely because of what those long ago whites did to long ago blacks.

If all it was was about equal access to aid programs, then the entirety of the Social Welfare state is more than enough.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: dandandat2

It's not about justice. It's about vengeance.

They don't want access on an equal basis. They want to do to whites what they think whites did to them, and yes, they do think any disadvantages they perceive in their lives are solely because of what those long ago whites did to long ago blacks.

Let's not fool ourselves; its not so long ago powerful white men like Joe Biden were saying that integration via mandatory busing would create a "racial jungle" and enacting criminal justice policies that harmed minority communities. So the pain felt by minority communities is real and fresh. But we should be trying to fix these problems not creating new ones. And if someone must be punished than punish rich white men like Biden who personally acted inappropriately not all farmers who have white skin.

We can't change past injustices and creating more of them is certainly not a "solution" to anything.

a reply to: dandandat2

And if someone must be punished than punish rich white men .

how do you plan on doing that? Raise my taxes, put more restrictions on what I can grow. Institute economic caps on the
market prices, Raise prices on seed, equipment and fuel.

You've already done that....what do you want???

I'm done...I selling the place that been in my family for over 100 years. I just don't care!!

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: dandandat2

And if someone must be punished than punish rich white men .

how do you plan on doing that? Raise my taxes, put more restrictions on what I can grow. Institute economic caps on the
market prices, Raise prices on seed, equipment and fuel.

You've already done that....what do you want???

Not really sure why you edited a quote from me.

originally posted by: dandandat2

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: dandandat2

And if someone must be punished than punish rich white men .

how do you plan on doing that? Raise my taxes, put more restrictions on what I can grow. Institute economic caps on the
market prices, Raise prices on seed, equipment and fuel.

You've already done that....what do you want???

Not really sure why you edited a quote from me.

Biden's not a farmer, how are you going to punish him?