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Ascending to Heaven through Seven Gates.

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posted on May, 8 2021 @ 09:20 AM

originally posted by: primalfractal
a reply to: Harte

The point is, Byrd is quite knowledgeable about the ancient Levant, among other regions.
Contrast that with the complete and pure ignorance of other posters here concerning the same subject

Well really Byrd should be able show his/her brilliance about "other regions" then, but hasn't, because anyone could work out that succeeding cultures in the same area often borrow and use information from the previous ones.

It's not rocket science, no degree needed.

Claiming otherwise is beyond disengenious.

Your fixation on Byrd and unwillingness to directly address the actual topic of contention, just obvious evasiveness and proof of your dishonesty.

What's disingenuous is your association of Ophiuchus with "secret" or "magic spell."
What's also disingenuous is your pretending that Byrd argued that Babylonians couldn't read Sumerian.

It's a blatant sign of a hollow argument when one has to construct straw men.


posted on May, 8 2021 @ 10:55 AM
a reply to: Harte

It's interesting you mention Ophiuchus because some attempt to identify that as LU-USH and i don't think they're altogether wrong because the associations with serpents and healing are what would be expected, but the problem is that position is considered taken.

Sitting Gods (Most of Ophiuchus) The serpent-bodied men known as the Sitting and Standing Gods represent the ancestors of Enlil, the ultimate leader of the whole Babylonian pantheon. They dwell in the Sacred Mound, which is at once a burial mound and an image of the primeval earth. As such the serpent-bodied gods represent the dual powers of the earth as an abode of the dead and as the source of all earthly fertility.

I think Antinous and Ophiuchus should represent the same figure but in the Classical version of Ophiuchus this has shifted and expanded and Antinous more likely closely represents the Babylonian placement and proportion, the natural position is between the serpent mound and the Eagle as per the basis of the Etana myth, Antinous was considered primarily a healing God

According to Roman era mythography, the figure represents the healer Asclepius, who learned the secrets of keeping death at bay after observing one serpent bringing another healing herbs.

To the ancient Greeks, the constellation represented the god Apollo struggling with a huge snake that guarded the Oracle of Delphi.

posted on May, 9 2021 @ 01:58 AM
a reply to: Madrusa

This is basically speculation on my behalf, and hard to elucidate as the idea, although partially composed of elements I've been contemplating recently, is also new and related to the info you presented in the thread. Thought it interesting enough to ask an opinion.

Magic and secrets and dead men, eagles, divine right of kings, tablets and goddesses.

All related somehow... what is the secret and did the dead man once live?

Seems that he did.

Behind the serpent-bodied gods is the figure of Zababa. Very little is known about this ancient god beyond the fact he was a warrior god who was closely associated with the symbol of the eagle

And he was the husband of Ishtar.

Ishtar came down from heaven to seek a shepherd,
And sought for a king everywhere.
Inninna came down from heaven to seek a shepherd,
And sought for a king everywhere.
Enlil examined the dais of Etana,
The man whom Ishtar steadfastly... She has constantly sought....
"Let kingship be established in the land,
Let the heart of Kish be joyful"
Kingship, the radiant crown, throne [ ]
He (?) brought and [ ]
The gods of the lands....

To make a true divine king seems to require a combination of elements, both Earthly and Heavenly.

Ultimately, as seen in Rome, heavenly mandate is primary. Rome produced beneficial order and was the supreme power on Earth for quite a period. Although the understanding of this is recently aquired in my case, logic shows the truth of it, and I'd partially blame conditioned knee jerk response and my own inner Vandal for not recognising it, especially for Hadrian, who I've read of recently in a positive light.

But there is also gaps in Rome, and this exposes some I think.

In the Etna myth the basic problem, or disconnect between earth and heaven is explained two ways, in the conflict between the serpent and the eagle, with the eagle having betrayed the serpents trust, and eaten the baby serpents. The other is the queen can not have a child, no bloodline of divine kings, no more babies. The secret magic herbal remedy is needed for a child, and it's the Queen who needs it, Etna just gets it for her, and it's the Queen of Heaven who he must visit to receive the remedy.

So there is already a problem in Etnas time, but the myth says it was all ok in the past, the Eagle and the Serpent once the best of mates.

In the more ancient past of the Gods/Annunaki on Earth, the Queen carried both the bloodline of kings and bestowed the actual Kingship. It all went through her. This has degraded since Tiamat was defeated by Marduk. But the truth of it is intrinsic and any deviation from it is just that, makes sense establishing Divine Kings has been lacking more and more components as the basis, as the power of the Queen of Heaven was reapproriated by male divinities.

Then we have an actual physical tablet, a symbol of divine authority and perhaps a key to heaven of some sort. But it has weight, potency, magic, and it's stolen by the very bird that flies to heaven on its say so, then taken to the Dark King Shara/Eros of the Suteans/Sethians.

Another element gone in divine kings past this time, the Tablet. Innanas tablet I guess, or hers to bestow.

Then we have Antonious in the dead man position, also representing Eros as profane love, but that is where the tablet was at the time. It seems lacking, although I can see Rome as being as divine as possible, just missing some of the right elements/conditions.

And also Ophiuchus, somehow also out of position, perhaps once covering the dead man shape and extending or connecting Scorpio, which contains Anteres(divine love), to Aquila. The Scorpio-Eagle link is still often mentioned in modern times.

Scorpio is associated with three different animals: the scorpion, the snake, and the eagle (or phoenix). The snake and eagle are related to the nearby constellations of Ophiuchus and Aquila.

Back to Rome, I always thought the divine kingship went partly underground at this point, and continued amongst the tribes, mostly in Britain and Ireland, but more recently learned of the Ynglings. Followers of the Queens. Because Rome did have Juno, but was patriarchal.

Also I guess it's not all as clear cut as I make out. Bloodline becoming more dispersed as time went on.

Vulnerable to based berserker warriors because they lacked them. They tried to integrate them as auxiliaries but changed them too much I think. Lost their fire, which came from Earth and women.

Some proof of this would be Arthur, who combined again the Eagle and the Dragon. The positive results speak for themself, and still missing the Tablet.

So was this how the divine kingship was blocked and poisoned? By blocking and restricting the Queen of Heavens power, and that of her Avatar on Earth and her bloodline, and thereby the king. Stealing the Tablet and using it to maybe issue conflicting directives. Two kings in a way.

Hiding Zababa, her husband, and confusing him with the form of a dead man.

Not destroying divine kingship, just making it less than it once was, and will be again.

uš2 "to shut off, block up" Akk. sekēru

Sumerian word for witchcraft, uš (pronounced “ush”). it’s basic meaning is “spittle,” or even “poison.

ush does basically mean “spittle” or “mucous” and is a word for “magical spell”. “To spit” is the verb phrase ush dug. The word ushzu, literally “knower of spells”, means “sorcerer”

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posted on May, 9 2021 @ 02:45 AM
a reply to: Madrusa

The tree which the Eagle perched upon could relate to all medicinal herbal knowledge, particularly in Iranian tradition, so the knowledge of Soma would be an aspect, but the question remains of where was this Heaven, which required one to pass through the gates of the planets and Sun and Moon, to pass through the Solar system, to that place were the Divine Kingship originated.

Wasn't sure about the Northern Tree, glad to be mistaken actually, the idea if an actual physical location is pretty cool.

If you are looking for a physical location for heaven related to the Annunaki, then Meru certainly isn't it as legends recount it as higher dimensional and totally inaccessible in a physical body.

Must be Vangr then, the golden field 😊

vangr m (genitive vangs, plural vangar)

(poetic, especially in compounds) a garden, field, meadow 

In Norse mythology, Fólkvangr (Old Norse "field of the host"[1] or "people-field" or "army-field"[2]) is a meadow or field ruled over by the goddess Freyja where half of those that die in combat go upon death, whilst the other half go to the god Odin in Valhalla. Others were also brought to Fólkvangr after their death

In chapter 24 of the Prose Edda book Gylfaginning, High tells Gangleri (described as king Gylfi in disguise) that Freyja is "the most glorious of the ásynjur", that Freyja has a dwelling in the heavens called Fólkvangr, and that "whenever she rides to battle she gets half of the slain

Associated with the constellation Pegasus.

The Babylonian constellation IKU (field) had four stars of which three were later part of the Greek constellation Hippos (Pegasus)

And the Divine King through the rune ingwaz, and the God Freyr.

Inguz, or Ingwaz as it is also known, is named after the divine hero Ing.  Ing is often thought to be an earlier form of the better known god Freyr.

The Ing rune can be seen as both the devoured seed and the sacred seed through which life is reborn.

Inguz reminds us of our divine heritage.


Wonder now is the eagle a vehicle or a pathway of gates.

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posted on May, 9 2021 @ 06:36 AM
a reply to: primalfractal

That's really good and i was arriving at the same conclusion that the figure between Aquila and Ophiuchus originally represented Zababa God of Kish, Etana ruling as his representative, that relating to the origins of the Kingship from Heaven represented by the Eagle staff, thus Etana had command over the Eagle.

LU-USH is more likely to represent the magical aspects of being an inter-mediary between Eagles and Serpents, a secret function, because as i mentioned early rulers included USH in their name, it won't have been in the sense of dead but more likely as sorcerer Kings.

It may be the case that the God of war was also the God of peace, the Serpent and the Eagle divided in war or united in peace and love, a basic bonding role related to the passions as per the Roman saying Pacifier ro Martis, Mars the bringer of Peace, somewhat counter intuitive, the term for this bond is DUR-AN-KI.

The serpent Gods are Nin-azu's side of the Pantheon, generally given as descended from En-lil in the underworld, Scorpio being a chthonic sign and also were the ecliptic plane intersects with the Galactic understood as being the point of emergence from the underworld, the head of the serpent as serpens caput i consider as morphing into the tree of knowledge with Corona Borealis as the crown of that tree, stood upon the serpent mound.

It's all somewhat obscure but informs all later tradition, this is a decent little video identifying the Sittng God as represented on the Dendera Zodiac, Zababa is the God with staff there.

The Sitting God

a reply to: primalfractal

The serpent God is also the tree God, the connection is very strong

Hero, lord of field and meadow, lion of the distant mountains! Ningiszida, who brings together giant snakes and dragons!

The Underworld aspect of Nin-ĝišzida was serpentine, the roots of the good tree that he represented, the sign for tree root, 'arina' as in the Sun Goddess of Arina within the underworld.
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posted on May, 9 2021 @ 12:49 PM

originally posted by: primalfractal
a reply to: Madrusa
If you are looking for a physical location for heaven related to the Annunaki, then Meru certainly isn't it as legends recount it as higher dimensional and totally inaccessible in a physical body.

The Sumerian term is Anuna. Anunnaki is Akkadian. Don't know about their heaven, but I wouldn't expect it to be much different from the Sumerian.

In Sumer, there were three divisions of heaven, depicted as three domes over the flat Earth. Later the Babylonians divided the entire sky into these same three divisions - the southern sky (Enki,) the middle latitudes (An,) and the northern sky (Enlil.)
None of them were higher dimensional.
In fact, originally it seems that An himself was equivalent to heaven, since at his earliest he WAS the sky itself. At one point heaven was on a mountaintop, a tradition carried forward for a long time - even to the Greeks.

The gates in the Etana myth are city gates where offerings were made to the god of each particular gate.


posted on May, 9 2021 @ 02:49 PM
a reply to: Harte

They were City gates but isn't that because the City was designed as representing the Heavens were Etana was given as the Architect, in the fragmentary conclusion of Etana they appear to make the journey and pass through the actual Heavenly gates according to the earlier dream, represented by Sun, Moon and Planets.

Etana's and the eagle's second flight to heaven where "they went through the gate of Sin, Shamash, Adad and Ishtar" and bowed down together. As the last line of the piece is given as "He pushed it open [and went inside]" Dalley concludes that this second attempt at the heavens is successful and Etana receives the Plant of Life from Ishtar.

posted on May, 10 2021 @ 02:50 AM
a reply to: Madrusa

i was arriving at the same conclusion that the figure between Aquila and Ophiuchus originally represented Zababa God of Kish

Cool, thought it made some sense, a part of the mystery solved!

LU-USH is more likely to represent the magical aspects of being an inter-mediary between Eagles and Serpents, a secret function, because as i mentioned early rulers included USH in their name, it won't have been in the sense of dead but more likely as sorcerer Kings.

Wonder if it's still known, whatever the secret is.

The rumours abound around the Templar excavation of Solomon's Temple. The stone tablets said to be in the Arc and the Tablet of Destiny sound similar. Some of the properties of the grail also could relate, and then we also have the Spear, said to confer kingship, and sharing the Destiny name.

Among the artifacts the Templars are said to have unearthed during their time on Temple Mount were the fabled Holy Grail, the Turin Shroud, the head of St. John the Baptist, the Spear of Destiny, the embalmed head of Jesus Christ and the location of the last resting place of the Ark of the Covenant, believed to be buried somewhere in modern-day Ethiopia.

According to contemporary accounts, the Babylonian Army destroyed the First Temple in 586 B.C. The ark of the covenant disappeared, possibly hidden from the conquerors. Following the conquest of Jerusalem by the Persians in 539 B.C., the Jews returned from exile and, according to the Book of Ezra, constructed a Second Temple on the site.

Following this the European myths explode with tales of holy objects, hotly contested over...

Could any of these be the Tablet of Destiny, did it find some other path down through the ages, or perhaps it is forever lost?
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posted on May, 10 2021 @ 04:43 AM
a reply to: primalfractal

Well they copied the idea, the Ark of the Covenant was held to contain the Tablet of the Law which God supposedly gave to Moses upon Sinai to act with his authority, the Levite High Priest wore the Tablet of Judgement upon his chest and Assyrian and Babylonian Kings had worn the Tablet of Destiny bearing the Seal of their High God.

There is the entire magical tradition of the seal of Solomon related to this, that if you knew the design you could reproduce it towards your own magical purposes, and the seals of other Heavenly powers, it's all a continuation of the same mindset.

It's just the way civilization had been set up, a chain of command involving seals which you were expected to obey, and it still works like that with Law enforcement and their badges who also tend to trace this back back to that power invested by God upon their Nation, as an extension of the Biblical tradition, if that authority wasn't genuine there's something of a problem.

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posted on May, 10 2021 @ 08:01 AM
a reply to: Madrusa

Typical, just a Larp then basically, but clever mimicking all the same, their control is so tenuous, based on lies as it is, no wonder it's failing...

Interesting about the seals/symbols/geometry, intrinsic patterns of the universe, in our very cells and related to pattern recognition and the way images are constructed in the brain. Then too the way they effect the higher dimensions, the waveforms etc. Aethric patterns really, the shapes the tree/flower of life is constructed from, or extrapolations of such, the framework for the physical.

posted on May, 10 2021 @ 08:28 AM
a reply to: primalfractal

Yes people having fun with Seals, it's interesting to look at the City Seal of Kish because according to the experts this relates to the giving of birth and incantations towards such, which takes us right back to the City requiring a Plant of Birth, this is in terms of Ninhursag consort of Enki and could also be thus related to the Field constellation, the Pegasus square included in the City sign, similar to the Ingwaz rune which you sort of guessed

So the sign for Kish can be seen here among other City seals including the Pentagram for Uruk, i don't know how the Police think they carry the authority of Uruk...

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posted on May, 10 2021 @ 09:10 AM

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: Madrusa
a reply to: Byrd

That comparison is ridiculous because Canada and Mexico are thousands of miles apart and unrelated cultures, Sumeria and Babylonia were the same place and had continuity of tradition, the terms considered are Sumerian rendered in Old Babylonian.

Hadrian was interested in Astrology so his choice wouldn't be arbitrary everything suggests he based it upon the Babylonian tradition which he'd have been very well informed of, what is obscure today could be more easily sourced then, the question has to be considered why he placed Antinous were he did and what were the aspects related to that region of the sky, because also some relationship to Zeus as an eagle abducting Ganymede.

LU-USH is Sumerian and can mean man- closed off/secret/dead and that was a Constellation next to Aquila, there has to be meaning to that so what would you suggest?

Byrd, a degreed Anthropologist, already told you the deal on this which you, in your utter ignorance, dismissed as "ridiculous."
Why should Byrd further engage with you in your ignorant ramblings and/or lego linguistics?


If you'd like a room with Byrd, let me know and I'll find you two a great deal on Priceline. As far as being degreed, who cares? That means as much to me as a degreed educator that pushes out grammar and math errors in the heat of a debate.

posted on May, 10 2021 @ 02:07 PM
a reply to: LSU2018
Can't really help your ignorance.
Byrd's been here a loooong time. So have I.
You're a fool to assume that my support for Byrd is based on some degree.

However, you also seem to assert that there is NO knowledge about Anthropology gained by an individual that receives advanced degrees in Anthropology.
It's very convenient to hold that point of view once you realize how hard it is to learn actual stuff.


posted on May, 10 2021 @ 02:40 PM

originally posted by: Harte
a reply to: LSU2018
Can't really help your ignorance.
Byrd's been here a loooong time. So have I.
You're a fool to assume that my support for Byrd is based on some degree.

However, you also seem to assert that there is NO knowledge about Anthropology gained by an individual that receives advanced degrees in Anthropology.
It's very convenient to hold that point of view once you realize how hard it is to learn actual stuff.


Look man, I have no dog in this fight. I was just reading through and noticed you took up for Byrd like you had a man-crush on him and you bragged about his degree. My post was just to point out that a degree doesn't mean that Byrd is God's gift to Anthropologists. The man you're arguing with is posting links and articles while you're posting "better listen to him, you ignorant, he has a degree!"

That's all I'm saying.

posted on May, 10 2021 @ 08:41 PM
Zeus an Ninruta are comparable to each other, of slaying a storm beast, an I have read, though not to sure that Ancient Greece may have had it origins come from the region of Babylonia, but what do I know. Comparable Mythology really does give me headache, I lost my # when Sumerian, Arkadia, an Babylonian were the same place, just different times.

Wonder if has anything to do with Prometheus an being torn apart by an eagle daily though.

Most of the ancient world had some indepth stuff regarding the movements of the stars an planets. Some could of just played out differently due to differing point of views of it. I've actually wondered the how old some stories are an how many reiteratation they went through.

I actually do wonder if these stories before written language, was just passed down vocally or oral tradition for an obscene amount enough of time.
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posted on May, 11 2021 @ 02:46 AM
a reply to: Madrusa

  “Adad-apla-iddina, king of Babylon, made Emeteursaga (“House Worthy of the Hero”) shine.
         The god Zababa (Enlil’s son) …”

 , E-meteursang ( sum . É.me.te.ur.saĝ, transl. "A house worthy of a hero") [1] - in the New-Babylonian period (the time of Nebuchadnezzar II ) ceremonial name of the cella god Zababa in the temple of E-dub in the city of Kish [1] .

So the sign for Kish can be seen here among other City seals including the Pentagram for Uruk, i don't know how the Police think they carry the authority of Uruk...

Guess the Ingwaz rune also connects to birth as sacred seed.

That the police carry the star of the Goddess as their symbol of authority is the hight of hypocrisy really, I know they are minions, but ultimately we are all responsible for our own actions.

Even their own legal system is double layered, probably because it's basically all an illegal farce like the common law proponents say. And this goes all the way back to the Anzu bird...

I never paid common law much attention and it's obviously all just a weird jargon game that exposes the cover up if followed correctly, Common Law being BS as well. But this one cracked me up where the judge is forced to bow to Freeman as sovereign.
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posted on May, 11 2021 @ 04:40 AM
a reply to: primalfractal

The warrior God Zababa can be taken as a local variant of hero Ninurta, whose wife is Bau/Baba the barmaid of Kish that was given Kingship over the world, or at least she went on to rule Kish, the Hurrian high Gods Tessub and Hebat are a variant of Ninurta and Bau.

I shall praise the good woman, the Utu of the Land, my goddess. Mother Bau's august minister, who creates life for the king! Holy messenger who brings the tablet of life down from the interior of heaven, who sets rain on its way from heaven, and brings forth abundance!

Protective Goddess of those who pray to Bau, ...... -- because you love mankind and rejoice at its gifts, let us forever praise you, the Beneficent Protective Goddess of Bau.

Bau was something of a domestic Goddess and as later Kybele the patroness of the mystery cults, she knew the recipes

Good woman, prayerful lady for whom has been decreed the creation of life -- each day as she goes about, conversing, from early in the morning she is to be ...... at her side with honour. Your name fills the mouth like cakes, butter and cream. Whatever she brings from the street and the beer she brews are of the best quality. She instructs people to provide her with the best produce of her orchards. As a daily task, she inspects the shrine Jirsu. Daily she passes before you in radiance

Bau is an extension from Ninhursaga the Goddess of plants in that she understands how to use them, and also seeds.

Enlil, the king of all the foreign countries, Nunamnir, the lord who determines the fates, decreed something of great importance in the shrine Nibru, in Dur-an-ki: he made you exalted in the shining E-kur

Nunamnir, the prince of all the foreign countries, entrusted to you the exalted office of accountant of heaven and earth, and exalted you, giving you the rank of lady of the shrine which brought the seeds of mankind forth.

Your own father, An, the highest god, clothed you in the ma garment. He gave you the warrior of Enlil, Ninjirsu, as your husband. He bestowed on you the E-ninnu, the holy city, the shrine which brought forth the seeds of mankind

Supreme lady, whose divine powers are untouchable, daughter of An, omniscient great lady, young woman, mother Bau

The Tablet of Life can be related to the notion of the Book of Life, the recording and accounting of peoples deeds, Bau along with Nisaba understood as recording these and reading them out yearly as part of the New Year celebrations.

Bau, in the E-tar-sirsir, founded for you by An, you decide the fate of all the countries; you, Bau, render verdicts and decree judgments.

a reply to: Specimen88

A Goddess such as Bau is going to trace right back to the Neolithic period, the brewing of beer and production of bread, she was there at Gobekli Tepe and remained the supreme Anatolian Goddess, her sister Nisaba also the grain Goddess of the Age of Virgo and who held the Tablet of the Heavenly Plan, that's 13,000 years ago

in medical incantations, Bēlet or Balāti, also as the Azugallatu the "great healer" Other names borne by this goddess are Nin-Karrak, Nin Ezen, Ga-tum-dug and Nm-din-dug. Her epithets are "great healer of the land" and "great healer of the black-headed ones", a "herb grower", "the lady who makes the broken up whole again", and "creates life in the land", making her a vegetation/fertility goddess endowed with regenerative power

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posted on May, 11 2021 @ 06:36 AM
It's Bau/Gula then that connects to the Herbal Tree of Knowledge represented by Serpens Caput and Corona Borealis, were the Goat constellation modern Hercules was the guardian and her representative, though Gula related more specifically to Medical application, the constellation Lyra the dog, it has the position of looking up on the seals, though some relate Vega to the she-goat star of the She-Goat, Lamma, the messenger of Baba (The star Vega in Lyra)

Trees on Mesopotamian seals.

mul dGula, a goddess connected with mul uz3, and mulur.gi7 (“The Dog”) located in Hercules. In the eyes of ancient Mesopotamians, these constellations were bound by complex relationships that were changing in course of time. Gula was the goddess of the Goat constellation, and the Dog was a sacred animal of Gula. In the Neo-Assyrian period, Gula’s anthropomorphic image was considered to be a figure of the constellation muluz3,

posted on May, 11 2021 @ 07:39 AM
a reply to: Madrusa

Ninurta, huh, so it comes back around to the Anzu.

Ninurta’s earliest name was Imdugud (now also read as Anzu), which means “Rain Cloud,” and his earliest form was that of the thundercloud envisaged as an enormous black bird floating on outstretched wings roaring its thunder cry from a lion’s head

Knew it was his fault already...

To speak of recipes...

And plants of life and birth... and babies, awww 😊

Maybe the first inscription about plant of life is the Sumerian story of Inanna and the Huluppu Tree. The poem gives a mythic explanation of how the throne and the bed used in the "Sacred Marriage" came into existence.

Plant of life has been seen in ancient Mesopotamia with various features, like، palm, pomegranate, cedar, grapevine, etc. In the art of Assyrian period the tree has been transformed to an intricate type, which is formed with the parts of several different plants. In Egyptian mythology, Isis and Osiris were said to have emerged from the acacia tree of Iusaaset, which the Egyptians considered the tree of life, referring to it as the "tree in which life and death are enclosed


A mention of "haluppu", in an ancient fertility remedy, maybe this was one of Bau's recipe books?

followed by materia medica to induce pregnancy (imhur-līm, ankinūtu, haluppu)

"If the same, you will collect sprout(s) from under the (plant of) myrtle

That comes out in the top of a mud wall; you will lay flat

And so you will speak, you will say:

"You have received your gift; (now) give me the plant of life.

That the woman so-an-so, daughter of so-an-do, may her belly be made to go well".

This you should say, its root and its top you will pull out,

You won't look at your back (i.e. you won't turn back), you will speak with no man. You will tie a plaited band in her left thigh and she will get well

- She will give birth easily: therapeutic approaches to childbirth in 1st millennium BCE cuneiform sources

Could pomegranate be an ingredient for the fertility remedy? A traditional and modern cure.

At that time, it was planted, a tree, a single tree, by the banks of the Great River, Enki, the Father, did plant the Huluppu-tree, The God of Wisdom, he planted it by the banks of the Euphrates, Before he set sail, before the Father departed for the underworld.

The tree was nurtured by the waters of the Euphrates the very waters that carried Enki to the sea Small windstones were tossed against him; Large hailstones were hurled up against him; Like onrushing turtles, They charged the keel of Enki’s boat. The whirling South Wind arose and blew upon the tree, Pulling at its roots and ripping at its branches, Until the waters of the Euphrates carried it away.

A young woman who walked in fear of no man, and would not be owned, Plucked the tree from the river and spoke: “I shall bring this tree to Uruk. I shall plant this tree in my holy garden.”

Inanna cared for the tree with her hand. She settled the earth around the tree with her foot. She wondered: “How long will it be until I have a shining throne to sit upon? How long will it be until I have a luscious bed to lie upon?”

Then the Anzu bird shows up again and wrecks things, at least for a time, much like in the Etna myth...

But in the end Inanna gets her bed.
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posted on May, 11 2021 @ 08:20 AM
i think the 7 gateways to 'heaven' are of pagan/mystical creation

where as the Gated city of Jerusalem is supposed to be a mirror image (or analog to
of the paths/ways/gates to enter the Throne-in-Heaven

see the snips below:

What are the 12 gates in Heaven?

The Bible describes the 12 gates of heaven as being made of pearls. Each individual gate is made of one single enormous pearl. Each gate has the name of one of the 12 tribes of Israel etched into it: Asher, Benjamin, Dan, Gad, Issachar, Joseph, Judah, Levi, Nephtali, Reubon, Simeon and Zebulun.

How many gates surround Jerusalem?
What do the 12 gates in Nehemiah mean?

The twelve gates of Jerusalem (Nehemiah Chapter 3) Nehemiah was facing a challenge rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem, the walls represent protection, security , something that Jerusalem no longer have much time, and it required a lot of work and effort of an entire nation to rebuild the city.

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both the pagan mystics and the bible zealots might just be concocting mumbo-jumbo which entertains Ones' intellect and stimulates Ones' Spirit

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