US Government will Release a Blockbuster UFO Revelation Document in June 2021.

a reply to: Phage
You act smart and are obviously very intelligent, but don’t really know what’s going on. Eventually, you won’t be able to dismiss all the data. But keep trying, I am entertained

Peace to you this weekend.

originally posted by: BerkshireEntity

originally posted by: carewemust
Saturday, April 24, 2021

Much speculation about UFO's has been posted in the ATS UFO forum over the years. It appears the United States Government is about to confirm at least one theory... "They ain't ours, but they're real".

JUNE 2021 will bring some level of "disclosure" from the U.S. Government:

The U.S. government is gearing up to share information about the "reality" of UFOs with the public — and not a moment too soon, says the man who claims to have run the Pentagon’s UFO program for 9 years.

Former President Donald Trump’s $2.3 trillion appropriation bill for 2021 contained a mandate that the Pentagon and spy agencies must file a report about "unidentified aerial phenomena" or UAP. Most of us just call them flying saucers or UFOs.

Whatever the jargon, noted whistleblower Luis Elizondo — former head of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, which operated out of the secretive fifth floor of the Pentagon’s C Ring — told The Post about the resulting blockbuster document, which is reportedly slated for release in June.

Continued at: www.foxnews.com...

I think the report will boil down to admitting that the United States didn't build the craft. But will they go so far as to say known human technology could not have constructed them? That would be confirming the existence of mentally superior (non-human?) beings.

We'll know in a couple of months.

-CareWeMust

Interesting. I wonder if they will pull the alien "threat" narrative to prime us for the hoax alien invasion. I'm sure they would love to pull out their toys and created programmed life forms to torment us. I have a feeling if they actually tried that the benevolent ET's would put a stop to it immediately. Its like Us pulling a false flag and blaming someone who wasn't even involved.
Its funny too because they say they aren't ours and also don't know who's using the craft which is BS because they know damn well what ET's are flying around and we do have our own, a lot of them.(they are more afraid of that being revealed then knowing we have et visitors)

I think if there are as many ET species as is theorized, we're not that big of a deal in cosmos. Just another civilization in its early stages.

The declassified Space Shuttle videos indicate that lots of different craft stop by Earth, and then continue on their way.

a reply to: carewemust

My expectations are ultra-low if such report is released given this clown administration but my curiosity is high. The so-called UFO disclosure report was probably mandated to gain public support for the CIA brain trust UFO threat narrative to justify $$$ and make the MIC happy. Maybe. Depends on how they tell the story and the anticipated report language.

The governor wrote that when the strange apparition finally faded away, the three Puritans in the boat were stunned to find themselves one mile upstream—as if the light had transported them there. The men had no memory of their rowing against the tide, although it’s possible they could have been carried by the wind or a reverse tidal flow. “The mysterious repositioning of the boat could suggest that they were unaware of part of their experience. Some researchers would interpret this as a possible alien abduction if it happened today,” write Jacques Vallee and Chris Aubeck in Wonders in the Sky: Unexplained Aerial Objects from Antiquity to Modern Times.

America’s First UFO Sighting

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: schuyler

These guys are not all sweetness and light.

And ugly as sin. All tentacally and stuff. I seen a movie.

Fair enough. You are correct, after all, not one dang person on this forum, or a commercial pilot, or the dude across from the 7~11 knows wtf it is that they witnessed (and in many radar instances, tracked.)
..Including (imo) the worlds military. (AKA the entities that have the best tech available according to their countries budget. That's more than NASA or any other entity.
You cannot prove if they exist if you cant prove what they are. ..

If I may... And I respect your posts here, always have, Let's just say that there is some (In Layman's terms) weird # going on. Like, say, the radars and Raytheon and all that non-physically possible stuff is present, Eyes, radar, video..
Theoretically, what do you think it could be? Or are you unable to postulate for the sake of preserving the corner stones of known science?
Just for Shi%$ and giggles. I think we'd all like to know.

a reply to: canucks555

I have a few notions.
1) It is our adversaries using drones to test both their own spoofing technology and at the same time probe our detection abilities.

2) It is us using drones to look for weaknesses in our own detection proficiency. Unannounced drills as it were. Perhaps even something like the Air Force messing with the Navy.

3) It is a disinfo campaign on our part to either convince our adversaries that:
a) We don't know what is going on, making us appear that our tech is not really all that fancy.
b) We have some awesome capabilities.

In order of likelihood from greatest to least: 2, 3b, 1, 3a.
#2 is by far the greatest possibility. Note that there is no indication that any measures against the "craft" seem to have been taken.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: canucks555

I have a few notions.
1) It is our adversaries using drones to test both their own spoofing technology and at the same time probe our detection abilities.

2) It is us using drones to look for weaknesses in our own detection proficiency. Unannounced drills as it were. Perhaps even something like the Air Force messing with the Navy.

3) It is a disinfo campaign on our part to either convince our adversaries that:
a) We don't know what is going on, making us appear that our tech is not really all that fancy.
b) We have some awesome capabilities.

In order of likelihood from greatest to least: 2, 3b, 1, 3a.
#2 is by far the greatest possibility. Note that there is no indication that any measures against the "craft" seem to have been taken.

So no dang aliens then. In your opinion. Which is fine. The more excitable among us obviously love to think maybe there's something else..But do you have to be Spock every thread? (lol jokin..)
(everyone loves Spock btw.
You must have read a bit of fiction in your time? Robert Heinlin? phil Dick or any of the masters? Ray Bradbury?
My question was more of a leap of imagination.. But I've had a few so I may be asking for too much of your imagination. it's a forum, not work

I have a few notions.
1) It is our adversaries using drones to test both their own spoofing technology and at the same time probe our detection abilities.

I'd think that they would shoot them out of the sky. They're just drones. Russian or Chinese drones off of California launched by a sub would truly be a national embarrassment.

2) It is us using drones to look for weaknesses in our own detection proficiency. Unannounced drills as it were. Perhaps even something like the Air Force messing with the Navy.

It makes no sense to put the crew and ship in a state of oblivion. As a matter of safety and the fact that whoever would devise such a test, that's kind of a vague drill. that being not knowing what the heck is going on, seems ridiculous. I'm no army guy but that makes no sense.

3) It is a disinfo campaign on our part to either convince our adversaries that:
a) We don't know what is going on, making us appear that our tech is not really all that fancy.
b) We have some awesome capabilities.
In order of likelihood from greatest to least: 2, 3b, 1, 3a.
#2 is by far the greatest possibility. Note that there is no indication that any measures against the "craft" seem to have been taken.

a) why screw around with our own guys when you could screw about with an adversary?
b) So that's where the taxes go..

a reply to: canucks555

I'd think that they would shoot them out of the sky.

Why? They pose no immediate threat and perhaps we can learn something about them.

It makes no sense to put the crew and ship in a state of oblivion

What does that mean?

why screw around with our own guys when you could screw about with an adversary?

Maybe we are. But besides that, it makes sense to test our own people.

So that's where the taxes go..

Sure, trying to convince your adversaries that you're badder than you actually are is a time honored effort. Makes them waste resources trying to make antigravity machines and stuff.

You'd neutralize them (another countries drones) because they are a negative entity within your military jurisdiction ,that being off of Cali.state.

So basically (lets say for technology reasons) A Chinese sub surfaces, launches drones, and remains undetected. Same thing for a week, and retrieves them every time. Kinda lame considering the ships involved can pick up targets thousands of kilometers away!

Still more believable than aliens or inter dimensionals, but odd, none the less.

a reply to: canucks555

You'll note that it is not high on my list.

a reply to: Ectoplasm8

Wrong thread.
May I direct you here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Phage

Do you expect to be surprised when the June report on uaps is presented to congress? Or do you think it will be redacted bunk?
You must think it's a total waste of time and money, given your disdain towards the subject.

a reply to: canucks555

I do not expect to be surprised, but I do enjoy surprises.

I would expect that what is released to the public will be a shadow of the classified material which is provided to Congress. I think that is a good idea.

I wonder if the phenomenon will be completely revealed as in military telescopes/satellites will have upper atmosphere data or even space data of these objects doing their law breaking maneuvers. What if the information we've already been given, is nothing compared to what they have and we're about to get it. We do have the technology to track the UFO's/UAP and I'm sure we do quite thoroughly.

But at the same time, I feel the reveal will be a let down. Probably just more duplicate San Diego type sightings.

I can't fathom what type of new 9/11 Covid world we would live in with a staged fake alien invasion. Just create intense martial law everywhere? I'm not sure what new security measures people will have to deal with, if a real or fake alien threat was present.

It's a shame that it has to be this way.
Imagine the implication this will have to people who have experienced a direct contact scenario.
Suddenly, they'll have to ask them self whether what they experienced was more than paralysis, more than a dream?
For those people the world will change on that day.
For everyone else, "I suspected it all along."
But what if someone who had direct contact, was told something specific, something important.
Another confirmation that what they discovered was real, true...
How will it change those people?
What if they have to do something, because of this?

Blue Eisenhower November

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: canucks555

I do not expect to be surprised, but I do enjoy surprises.

I would expect that what is released to the public will be a shadow of the classified material which is provided to Congress. I think that is a good idea.

Why is it a good idea? If these are foreign nation “Adversarial” UAPs flying over our airspace and EEZ, they’re a threat to commercial and private aircraft and possibly the public at large. The military does not have to disclose HOW they’re specifically going to deal with them, but it at least could show the public WHAT is overflying our airspace.

The public shouldn’t be continuously left out of the dark in these kind of matters, they all ultImately answer to the American public, not congress or backdoor committees and secret meetings. If it all just ends up being a 10 page summary of BS and 700 pages of classified annex materiel, they’re deliberately ******* over the American people.

originally posted by: schuyler
It's the same with any species. Just because "aliens" have superior technology DOES NOT MEAN they are smarter.

Besides that being true, there's another thing most people don't remember: being better at one type of technology doesn't mean better at all types of technology.

For example, the Portuguese and the Spanish were able to navigate across the Earth in the 14th and 15th century because they were good at nautical technology, having adapted the lateen sail to their ships, allowing them to navigate almost against the wind and cross areas of the oceans where those winds were common.

That ended up in their need of better navigational technology and mapping.

Does that make them smarter than the Chinese or Japanese, that already had big ships that crossed huge distances but were limited by their square sails? No, it only means we were better at that specific type of technology.

In the case of UFOs (or UAPs or whatever they want to call them to make them appear to be more modern), we don't even have the certainty that they are the result of a specific technology, so we cannot even say that whatever they are they were made from a more technological advanced civilisation.

originally posted by: johnthejedi24
Why is it a good idea? If these are foreign nation “Adversarial” UAPs flying over our airspace and EEZ, they’re a threat to commercial and private aircraft and possibly the public at large. The military does not have to disclose HOW they’re specifically going to deal with them, but it at least could show the public WHAT is overflying our airspace.

The best way of dealing with a situation like that would be, in my opinion, to pretend not to know what they are and present them fake information.

So, for example, if they detect what they know is a Chinese drone flying over a military base they can prepare that base for the next flyover and make it look like they have either some very advanced technology being tested or that they have lower quality technology, according to what they want their adversary to think.

That would allow them to do the opposite with a, for example, Russian drone, giving one adversary one idea and to other adversaries a different idea, both wrong.

Information is power, giving your adversaries the wrong information is fooling them with fake power.

You're all forgetting one thing...

The military has tried to "deal with them" and has continually failed over the past 80+ years

You think what you want, but whatever is operating them isnt concerned about us little old humans or what our "military" is doing. Totally powerless in the face of this adversary (you better hope they arent adversarial)

If you never have seen one, i could see your confusion. Once you have, youll see why it can't possibly be ours...not even 300 years later, these arent generational upgrades

Its not a P51 vs the newest 5G fighters. This is equivalent to a bug trying to destroy or understand the Sun (our star). No matter what the bug does or how smart/advanced it perceives itself, it will never reach the Sun nor understand the true nature of it. Ever.

Humans are the bug in my metaphor
The operators of these vehicles are the Sun