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An apology . . . I guess I'm a good german

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posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 06:43 PM
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"Good Germans" is a term referring to German citizens during and after World War II who claimed not to have supported the Nazi regime, but remained silent and did not resist in a meaningful way.
-Internet


I placed this in the 'Pit because it'll probably get ugly, and I'm okay with that.

My wife has health issues I'll never discuss online. Me? Why not. I've got Parkinson's Disease and still work. Damned tremors always f#cking up my typing. But this is just the preface.

The reason I don't actively fight the evil left and stupid draconian laws and mask mandates is because I can't afford to. I'd lose my job. I can't afford to lose my job. I make too much and need too much.

If I lost my job I'll be stuck at VA healthcare and my wife would suffer worse.

So I obey the mask mandates in Oregon, I obey the workplace mandates and don't say a God-damned thing, because I can't afford to be honest. It bothers me.

It upsets me.

But I am not brave enough to stand up for what is actually right. I can't risk it. Not my wife. No f#cking way.

And that's where we are in America. We're breeding a generation of pathetic cowards like myself, too afraid to suffer the punishment of the authoritarians.

I guess I'll always be outspoken under the guise of anonymity, but will never risk my family. Sorry folks.

Can't do it.

And I hate myself for it, but that's where we are. I'll be a "good german" and take care of my family and ignore the stench of the ovens.

/rant


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posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Nothing to be ashamed about. Family comes first period. It's not cowardly to want to protect your family.



posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 06:51 PM
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I feel you, once upon a time I would have been all, I have not yet begun to fight... or I wish to have no connection to any ship that does not sail fast for I intend to go into harms way...

Now like you wife has some issues, I havev a 2 1/2 yr old son and another bun percolating in the oven, I cant risk them or there is no reason to fight.. but to fight means risking those that mean most to me.

Blood hard decision to make...


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posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 06:56 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

You have NOTHING to apologize for.
Democrats/leftists/socialists/"liberals" on the other hand....


And THANK YOU for your service !
(in defending the very rights and freedoms the Left wants to eliminate)


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posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 06:58 PM
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There is a difference in the good German analogy between acting and speaking out and doing nothing. The good Germans didn't even speak out, they just minded their business and closed their eyes and ears. Speaking out is a big part of exposing injustice and you are doing just that. I have a similar job but they know very clearly that I think their policy is stupid and anti-scientific, but I still wear the mask as I feel for the people who would have to be the ones to report me and have me removed.

That said, I don't wear it elsewhere and I made it very clear to the employer that if they mandate vaccines I will walk out that minute. I'm not saying it mattered, but they did decide against that route. Some people have less responsibility and can afford to be more active. However, you are very outspoken and nothing like a "good German". I think if the line needed to be held you would be there.

Exposing corruption and evil is part of the battle plan in fighting it. It is equally important as you need the tide in your favor.
edit on 23-4-2021 by Halfswede because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 06:59 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy
Prayer. It's the mightiest weapon in everyone's arsenal...in a "Godless world."



posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 07:00 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Gone are the days where we can fight for our tribe.

We're isolationist now because our only option is to defend our lot in life. Wife and all.

TPTB know damn well that they have us over a barrel and some f#ing morons here cheer it on.



posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 07:03 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Our circumstances always dictate what we can and can't do.

I wear the mask where it's mandatory. I'm not going to caiuse a scene or anything. Same with pretty much everything else, we have to go along to get along. FIFO.

Doesn't mean we have to like it. Doesn't mean we have to pretend that everything is normal and alright.

Speaking your opinions and your mind has more of an effect than you will ever know. Change hearts and minds with your words. If you have a point, someone will take it.

If not, they can take it and F Off.
edit on 4/23/2021 by MykeNukem because: sp.



posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 07:05 PM
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the stench of the ovens.


Nothing like the smell of burnt snowflakes in the morning.


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posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 07:07 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Firstly, I didn't know Parkinson's had been confirmed...and, for that, DB...well, I don't know exactly what to say right now.
This is upsetting...

As for the 'Good German' point...
There are many of us in this position...no apologies are required...all is understood.
Thank God we can still, at least, speak out.

It soon may be that this, too, will become a luxury none of us will be able to afford.


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posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 07:08 PM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: DBCowboy




the stench of the ovens.


Nothing like the smell of burnt snowflakes in the morning.


Aaaand that's why I put this in the 'Pit.

lolz

Always predictable.


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posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

The tremors are in both arms and my head.

On the lighter side, my wife said if I had that head tremor in my youth she'd never left the house.




posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy


And I hate myself for it, but that's where we are. I'll be a "good german" and take care of my family and ignore the stench of the ovens.


The “good Germans” you’re referring to were the people who supported the Nazis but acted like they didn’t when the war was over and allied tanks were rolling down their streets. They didn’t mind the smell of the ovens.

An apt comparison if you ever try to say you didn’t support Donald Trump or his politics. But as usual, you’ve twisted it around to mean something else.

That being said, apology accepted.


edit on 23-4-2021 by underwerks because: (no reason given)


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posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 07:16 PM
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a reply to: underwerks

Thank you for redefining words and changing definitions.



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posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: DBCowboy


And I hate myself for it, but that's where we are. I'll be a "good german" and take care of my family and ignore the stench of the ovens.


The “good Germans” you’re referring to were the people who supported the Nazis but acted like they didn’t when the war was over and allied tanks were rolling down their streets. They didn’t mind the smell of the ovens.

An apt comparison if you ever try to say you didn’t support Donald Trump or his politics. But as usual, you’ve twisted it around to mean something else.

That being said, apology accepted.



So in this analogy, what does that make you?


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posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: DBCowboy


And I hate myself for it, but that's where we are. I'll be a "good german" and take care of my family and ignore the stench of the ovens.


The “good Germans” you’re referring to were the people who supported the Nazis but acted like they didn’t when the war was over and allied tanks were rolling down their streets. They didn’t mind the smell of the ovens.

An apt comparison if you ever try to say you didn’t support Donald Trump or his politics. But as usual, you’ve twisted it around to mean something else.

That being said, apology accepted.



^^^^^

Douchebaggery store called...


edit on 4/23/2021 by MykeNukem because: eh?


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posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 07:20 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: DBCowboy


And I hate myself for it, but that's where we are. I'll be a "good german" and take care of my family and ignore the stench of the ovens.


The “good Germans” you’re referring to were the people who supported the Nazis but acted like they didn’t when the war was over and allied tanks were rolling down their streets. They didn’t mind the smell of the ovens.

An apt comparison if you ever try to say you didn’t support Donald Trump or his politics. But as usual, you’ve twisted it around to mean something else.

That being said, apology accepted.




The Trump - Nazi comparisons have been done to death by you mentally disturbed nut jobs.
And without an ounce of truth, I might add but then you already know that.
But you have to keep repeating the lies to stay on the payroll.



posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 07:22 PM
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It's funny because your title says 'apology' but you never actually said sorry for anything. Huh.
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posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 07:23 PM
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I wouldn't be to hard on yourself ... truth is, despite the hyperbole on steroids we are now living through, we are no where near being the next Nazi Germany.

We are certainly at a cross roads; there is a rocky path before us and there is plenty to complain about and protest. But the time for good men to risk everything to stand up for what is right is not yet upon us.

When they start putting people in Catlett Cars or up against a wall and you still do nothing about it then maybe you should be ashamed.



posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 07:23 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Always. You offer the best assists, what can I say? As if your superpower was provoking low puns unconsciously, literally straight out of the warm oven. Impressive!



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