At least 60% of all new Covid cases are occurring in people who were already vaccinated

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: rickymouse

I have no reason to believe that this article is not true.

As of Sunday, 1.8 million Michiganders were fully vaccinated, according to the state's COVID-19 vaccine dashboard

60% of 1.8 million is 1,080,000.

Are you serious?

Your not figuring it correctly, sixty percent of the worst cases of covid in that time period is what you would have to compare it to. That figure was for more serious cases. What are you thinking? Not all people in Michigan got covid in the last three months, heck lots of people got the virus but only maybe ten percent of those even got over cold like symptoms.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: putnam6

How can the vaccine give you COVID?

No, but what they can do is mess with your immune system making some people more susceptible to get COVID.

VAERS has 1,657 reports of contracting COVID 19 after getting vaccinated there is another 2000 plus that reports SARS-COV2 positivity after getting vaccinated. And here is the updated total reports of death after being vaccinated 2,346

www.nbcchicago.com...

"After you’ve been fully vaccinated against COVID-19, you should keep taking precautions – like wearing a mask, staying 6 feet apart from others, and avoiding crowds and poorly ventilated spaces – in public places until we know more," the CDC states.

Data has shown that you can still get coronavirus even after you're fully vaccinated, which means if you do get an infection, you could still spread it.

"The risks of SARS-CoV-2 infection in fully vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated as long as there is continued community transmission of the virus," the CDC recently reported. "Vaccinated people could potentially still get COVID-19 and spread it to others."

a reply to: rickymouse

That figure was for more serious cases.

That is not what he said. He said "new cases" and he provides no actual numbers.

He also says this:

The synthetic spike protein acts like retroviruses.

Utter nonsense. Retroviruses alter DNA. The spike protein does not alter DNA.

a reply to: putnam6

No, but what they can do is mess with your immune system making some people more susceptible to get COVID.

How so?

VAERS has 1,657 reports of contracting COVID 19 after getting vaccinated there is another 2000 plus that reports SARS-COV2 positivity after getting vaccinated.

Which is substantially better than the efficacy rate shown in the clinical trials.

Data has shown that you can still get coronavirus even after you're fully vaccinated, which means if you do get an infection, you could still spread it

And data continues to accumulate which shows that vaccination reduces transmission.
www.news-medical.net...

a reply to: putnam6

Maybe 1 Covid-19 booster-shot per quarter will keep us from succumbing to this extremely lethal disease.

a reply to: Salander

My understanding is a vaccination does not keep you from acquiring any illness. It allows you to have fewer symptoms.

Therefore, if you can get Covid once, you can certainly get it twice. Science.

a reply to: Phage

You can say it's not a lot of people but it does happen.

health.clevelandclinic.org...

Through this exchange, antibodies specific for SARS-CoV2 are generated. This process takes place in your adaptive immune system. Your innate immune system is the one that locates an infection and attacks it. That’s what can cause sore arms, fevers or muscle aches — your innate immune system going kind of crazy.

a reply to: putnam6

your innate immune system going kind of crazy.

No. It's doing what it does but with the benefit of not actually contracting the disease.

Personally, I had no side effects (except perhaps for a slight headache, hard to say if that was actually a side effect of the vaccine though). I'm one of the majority.

originally posted by: Salander
humansarefree.com...

Those having taken the shot are now becoming cases. This does not bode well considering that more than half the population of the US has already been injected with the cocktail.

I am concerned that some of these people might carry heavy viral loads and become contagious to others.

Any thoughts?

It appears the diabolical plans of Bill Gates and others may be coming to fruition.

LOL....that is what you get when you go for a phase 3 clinical trial that has no FDA phase 4 approval.....

a reply to: Salander

Welp, I guess that’s why they tell us we need to keep socialism distancing and wearing 14 masks even if you’ve been (non) vaccinated.

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
Sheessh when will they learn simple math.


There's a false positive rate and as long as the ratio of infections below this one, like I make up even small 0.1% false positive rate, if you test 1000 persons, by statistics, one false positive will be in the result pool. No matter what the other 999 test results say and if they are consistent a second time. No matter.

Test 100 000 people and 500 of them show up positive, you have at least 100 false positives among them. Someone knows the PCR and instant test false positive rates?

Does someone know the creator of the PCR test?

a reply to: Vasa Croe

LOL....that is what you get when you go for a phase 3 clinical trial that has no FDA phase 4 approval.....

Phase III trials were completed. Phase IV is not required.

Clinical development is a three-phase process. During Phase I, small groups of people receive the trial vaccine. In Phase II, the clinical study is expanded and vaccine is given to people who have characteristics (such as age and physical health) similar to those for whom the new vaccine is intended. In Phase III, the vaccine is given to thousands of people and tested for efficacy and safety.

Many vaccines undergo Phase IV formal, ongoing studies after the vaccine is approved and licensed.

www.cdc.gov...

You can wayback it, if you wish. It first showed up on February 9, 2016.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: putnam6

How can the vaccine give you COVID?

It's mRNA....it can't unless introduced.

At least according to mRNA vaccine methods that is.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: putnam6

How can the vaccine give you COVID?

It's mRNA....it can't unless introduced.

At least according to mRNA vaccine methods that is.

That comes across as word salad. Can you clarify?

originally posted by: putnam6
a reply to: Phage

You can say it's not a lot of people but it does happen.

health.clevelandclinic.org...

Through this exchange, antibodies specific for SARS-CoV2 are generated. This process takes place in your adaptive immune system. Your innate immune system is the one that locates an infection and attacks it. That’s what can cause sore arms, fevers or muscle aches — your innate immune system going kind of crazy.

Their “not a lot of people” so it’s no biggie argument changes depending on whether they are taking about the virus or the vaccine. Not a lot of people will not survive covid-19: less than 1% of people who get it. To then that’s a huge giant torch society number. But if 1% die from the non-vaccine, that’s “not a lot of people.”

I’m tired of the pick-and-choose science a bunch of folks follow here. They only believe the science when they think it supports their covid religion.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Vasa Croe

LOL....that is what you get when you go for a phase 3 clinical trial that has no FDA phase 4 approval.....

Phase III trials were completed. Phase IV is not required.

Clinical development is a three-phase process. During Phase I, small groups of people receive the trial vaccine. In Phase II, the clinical study is expanded and vaccine is given to people who have characteristics (such as age and physical health) similar to those for whom the new vaccine is intended. In Phase III, the vaccine is given to thousands of people and tested for efficacy and safety.

Many vaccines undergo Phase IV formal, ongoing studies after the vaccine is approved and licensed.

www.cdc.gov...

You can wayback it, if you wish. It first showed up on February 9, 2016.

Neat...we have had this discussion before. Still never has been a mRNA vaccine phase 4 approved by FDA....we are still in phase 3 clinical trial with Eamergency Use Authorization.....it hasn't passed phase 3.

Try all you want....it is still clinical trial phase.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

we are still in phase 3 clinical trial

No. Phase III trials were completed.

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: putnam6

How can the vaccine give you COVID?

It's mRNA....it can't unless introduced.

At least according to mRNA vaccine methods that is.

That comes across as word salad. Can you clarify?

I think you are smart enough to pick the carrots out.