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originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: SourGrapes
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: carewemust
Murder implies Ashli babbitt was innocent. She wasn't.
What was she guilty of?
Giving federal security cause to believe she was a genuine threat to the elected officials they were hired to protect.
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Storm the Capitol, you might get shot.
It's ALWAYS been that way. And guess what, she got shot and paid for that nonsense with her life. Was it worth it? Or the cop's life, was it worth it?
a reply to: carewemust
What? You mean to say you guys don't think they should have shot her in the leg or something? She was clearly doing nonviolent stuff. She didn't do nuthin'!
Isn't that how this plays out when someone resists arrest? The shooting is never justified, amirite?
originally posted by: carewemust
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Storm the Capitol, you might get shot.
It's ALWAYS been that way. And guess what, she got shot and paid for that nonsense with her life. Was it worth it? Or the cop's life, was it worth it?
a reply to: carewemust
What? You mean to say you guys don't think they should have shot her in the leg or something? She was clearly doing nonviolent stuff. She didn't do nuthin'!
Isn't that how this plays out when someone resists arrest? The shooting is never justified, amirite?
Is Mike Lindell's social media site up yet? I have some things that can't be posted on ATS.
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: SourGrapes
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: carewemust
Murder implies Ashli babbitt was innocent. She wasn't.
What was she guilty of?
Giving federal security cause to believe she was a genuine threat to the elected officials they were hired to protect.
Thatâs a laugh, didnât the asshole shoot her through the door window or something?
If you think they were doing their duty, what is your take on the cops shooting these criminals of late, who were in the act of conducting criminal activities, they were genuine threats to the officers and citizens right?
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: carewemust
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Storm the Capitol, you might get shot.
It's ALWAYS been that way. And guess what, she got shot and paid for that nonsense with her life. Was it worth it? Or the cop's life, was it worth it?
a reply to: carewemust
What? You mean to say you guys don't think they should have shot her in the leg or something? She was clearly doing nonviolent stuff. She didn't do nuthin'!
Isn't that how this plays out when someone resists arrest? The shooting is never justified, amirite?
Is Mike Lindell's social media site up yet? I have some things that can't be posted on ATS.
So secret it can't be posted on abovetopsecret.com? Intriguing.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: SourGrapes
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: carewemust
Murder implies Ashli babbitt was innocent. She wasn't.
What was she guilty of?
Giving federal security cause to believe she was a genuine threat to the elected officials they were hired to protect.
Let's look at that for a moment...
Source
The US Supreme Court has made it clear that law enforcement agencies are not required to provide protection to the citizens who are forced to pay the police for their "services."
In the cases DeShaney vs. Winnebago and Town of Castle Rock vs. Gonzales, the supreme court has ruled that police agencies are not obligated to provide protection of citizens. In other words, police are well within their rights to pick and choose when to intervene to protect the lives and property of others â even when a threat is apparent.
So you're telling me the same police who we as citizens have zero authority or court identified right to look to for protection are in DC killing unarmed protestors in the name of protecting elected official's well being (from ridiculously misperceived threats)? and you're not seeing the huge glaring asininity in this?
Would you have preferred the protesting mob successfully entered the Senate chamber and confronted those officials in whatever manner they deemed appropriate?
Versus the murder of an unarmed protestor? Yes, yes I would and dare I say so would the nation's founding fathers. Redress of grievances is part of the job description and, if any of those elected are unwilling to perform that duty, they need to be shown the door. THEY are the ones occupying and trespassing on property owned by We the People, not the other way around.
originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: TzarChasm
Ah yes, investigations published by biased insiders đ¤Ł
originally posted by: underpass61
This is just for white people right? I can't imagine the riots that would ensue if the perpetrator was black.
originally posted by: fiverx313
this mudpit forum has infected this site with stupidity on such a scale...
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: SourGrapes
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: carewemust
Murder implies Ashli babbitt was innocent. She wasn't.
What was she guilty of?
Giving federal security cause to believe she was a genuine threat to the elected officials they were hired to protect.
Thatâs a laugh, didnât the asshole shoot her through the door window or something?
If you think they were doing their duty, what is your take on the cops shooting these criminals of late, who were in the act of conducting criminal activities, they were genuine threats to the officers and citizens right?
Exactly....hypocrisy runs rampant.
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: TzarChasm
Pointing out glaring hypocrisy and double standards isn't whataboutism.
Although I'm sure you'd like it to be.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: SourGrapes
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: carewemust
Murder implies Ashli babbitt was innocent. She wasn't.
What was she guilty of?
Giving federal security cause to believe she was a genuine threat to the elected officials they were hired to protect.
Let's look at that for a moment...
Source
The US Supreme Court has made it clear that law enforcement agencies are not required to provide protection to the citizens who are forced to pay the police for their "services."
In the cases DeShaney vs. Winnebago and Town of Castle Rock vs. Gonzales, the supreme court has ruled that police agencies are not obligated to provide protection of citizens. In other words, police are well within their rights to pick and choose when to intervene to protect the lives and property of others â even when a threat is apparent.
So you're telling me the same police who we as citizens have zero authority or court identified right to look to for protection are in DC killing unarmed protestors in the name of protecting elected official's well being (from ridiculously misperceived threats)? and you're not seeing the huge glaring asininity in this?
Would you have preferred the protesting mob successfully entered the Senate chamber and confronted those officials in whatever manner they deemed appropriate?
Versus the murder of an unarmed protestor? Yes, yes I would and dare I say so would the nation's founding fathers. Redress of grievances is part of the job description and, if any of those elected are unwilling to perform that duty, they need to be shown the door. THEY are the ones occupying and trespassing on property owned by We the People, not the other way around.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: SourGrapes
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: carewemust
Murder implies Ashli babbitt was innocent. She wasn't.
What was she guilty of?
Giving federal security cause to believe she was a genuine threat to the elected officials they were hired to protect.
Thatâs a laugh, didnât the asshole shoot her through the door window or something?
If you think they were doing their duty, what is your take on the cops shooting these criminals of late, who were in the act of conducting criminal activities, they were genuine threats to the officers and citizens right?
Whataboutism doesn't change the fact she was actively in violation of federal law and there was no predicting her intentions or her threat level. I guess they could have posted a sign saying "all trespassers past this point may be fired upon" because intruders need that kind of warning.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: carewemust
Murder implies Ashli babbitt was innocent. She wasn't.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: carewemust
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Storm the Capitol, you might get shot.
It's ALWAYS been that way. And guess what, she got shot and paid for that nonsense with her life. Was it worth it? Or the cop's life, was it worth it?
a reply to: carewemust
What? You mean to say you guys don't think they should have shot her in the leg or something? She was clearly doing nonviolent stuff. She didn't do nuthin'!
Isn't that how this plays out when someone resists arrest? The shooting is never justified, amirite?
Is Mike Lindell's social media site up yet? I have some things that can't be posted on ATS.
So secret it can't be posted on abovetopsecret.com? Intriguing.
originally posted by: Breakthestreak
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: carewemust
Murder implies Ashli babbitt was innocent. She wasn't.
Neither was George Floyd
I can across a similar article and after watching your video it seems even more plausible.
originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: SourGrapes
Subversion, possibly. I saw a thread pulling pics of her from different scenes earlier.
article
Watch the video at the end of this webpage... the entire event was choreographed.
The capitol building is not property of we the people. It's a federal facility intended for official staff to conduct their duties, not a town hall meeting with open invitation to the public.